
JRE MMA Show #141 with Mike Perry
Mike Perry (guest), Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Mike Perry and Narrator, JRE MMA Show #141 with Mike Perry explores mike Perry Explains Bare-Knuckle Mindset, Pain, Purpose, And Future Fights Joe Rogan and Mike Perry dive into why bare-knuckle boxing feels like the perfect rule set for Perry, exploring the technical, psychological, and pain-management differences from gloved combat and MMA. Perry talks candidly about his evolution as a fighter, his family-driven motivation, his constant injuries, and his love-hate relationship with fighting. They discuss combat sports business opportunities, potential superfights (including Conor McGregor and Anthony Pettis), and how bare-knuckle might fit alongside boxing, MMA, and hybrid promotions. The conversation also wanders into stem cells, injury rehab, homelessness, aliens, dreams, and how fighters can transition their experience into future careers and broader contributions to society.
Mike Perry Explains Bare-Knuckle Mindset, Pain, Purpose, And Future Fights
Joe Rogan and Mike Perry dive into why bare-knuckle boxing feels like the perfect rule set for Perry, exploring the technical, psychological, and pain-management differences from gloved combat and MMA. Perry talks candidly about his evolution as a fighter, his family-driven motivation, his constant injuries, and his love-hate relationship with fighting. They discuss combat sports business opportunities, potential superfights (including Conor McGregor and Anthony Pettis), and how bare-knuckle might fit alongside boxing, MMA, and hybrid promotions. The conversation also wanders into stem cells, injury rehab, homelessness, aliens, dreams, and how fighters can transition their experience into future careers and broader contributions to society.
Key Takeaways
Bare-knuckle demands a unique technical approach and mental toughness.
Perry emphasizes that in bare-knuckle you must keep fists tightly closed, defend differently, and accept that head shots hurt your own hands—something many elite gloved fighters can’t mentally or physically adapt to.
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Perry’s resurgence is fueled by family and radical ownership of pain.
He credits his family and a David Goggins–style rejection of excuses for leveling up, saying he wakes up hurt every day and treats that baseline pain as a reason opponents can’t break him.
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Experience in bare-knuckle is a massive competitive advantage.
Because you can’t realistically spar bare-knuckle at full power, actual fight experience is rare and invaluable, giving veterans like Perry a big edge over talented newcomers transitioning from MMA or boxing.
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Fighters are increasingly leveraging promotions against each other for better deals.
Perry openly weighs UFC, BKFC, boxing, Misfits, PFL, and crossover bouts (e. ...
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Chronic pain and brain risk are ever-present but often compartmentalized.
Perry discusses a close friend who died from a sparring-related brain bleed, yet says he feels obligated to keep fighting now that there’s real money, revealing the tension between health risks and financial opportunity.
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Therapies like stem cells and structured rehab could extend fighters’ careers.
Rogan pushes Perry to explore stem cells and tools like the Iron Neck and deep-tissue work, arguing that modern regenerative medicine can turn chronic injuries (like Perry’s neck) from accepted fate into fixable problems.
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Identity and future beyond fighting remain unresolved for many athletes.
Perry talks about vague ideas—construction, opening a gym, running a promotion, acting in movies—but ultimately frames himself as someone “born to fight,” highlighting how hard it is to imagine life after combat.
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Notable Quotes
“In bare knuckle, you gotta be closed up, tight, and squeezing your fists so hard so that when you hit them in the head, you don't destroy your hand.”
— Mike Perry
“You can't fucking hurt me, because I'm in enough pain. I take anything you got and give it back.”
— Mike Perry
“I feel like I'm going to fight every day of my life forever, for the rest of the time that I am here on this earth, because that is what I do, that is what I was put here to do.”
— Mike Perry
“It's a different thing, man. It's a different thing. I think I can do it in any gloves, though. Any sport.”
— Mike Perry
“People know when they go to see Mike Perry fight, especially now after these bare-knuckle fights, they know they're gonna see some wild shit.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How much longer can Mike Perry realistically maintain his current fighting style in bare-knuckle without serious long-term damage?
Joe Rogan and Mike Perry dive into why bare-knuckle boxing feels like the perfect rule set for Perry, exploring the technical, psychological, and pain-management differences from gloved combat and MMA. ...
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If Perry got a lucrative UFC or PFL offer, would he prioritize legacy, money, or his newfound comfort in bare-knuckle rules?
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Could a Conor McGregor vs. Mike Perry bare-knuckle fight actually happen under any existing promotion, and what hurdles would need to be cleared?
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How might widespread access to stem cells and advanced rehab change the way fighters like Perry approach training, damage, and retirement timelines?
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Is bare-knuckle ultimately more or less harmful than gloved fighting when you factor in both hand injuries and cumulative brain trauma?
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Transcript Preview
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Mike Perry.
Yes, sir.
What's happening? Good to see you, brother.
All right, man. Great to be here.
You want some coffee? You drink coffee?
Sure, yeah. Sure, I'll take some.
All right. Dude, you have had a, a fascinating renaissance. Cheers, sir.
Cheers, brother. Mm, it's hot as fuck.
This bare knuckle boxing thing has been fascinating to watch, man, because it's like someone designed the perfect sport for you.
Mm.
You know what I mean?
I, yes, I do.
Like, you, uh, you are particularly-
I feel like it was made for me.
... well-suited for that, and it's, I find it so fascinating because there's a, there's a certain le- and I really wanted to ask you about this 'cause there's a certain something that applies to bare knuckle fighting that just, it, it, it, it's like there's a pain, and there's a danger, and there's a wildness of it that even some very great fighters, they get to a cert- they're in there, and they're like, "I don't like this."
Right.
They're too used to gloves. They're too used to whatever they're used to. They don't, they don't want that experience once they find it, once they're in there, but you seem to thrive on it.
You know, it's just a real fight to me. Um, even though, I mean, I still go to the gym and I do MMA with the guys, like, I'm, I love boxing so much though. It's, it's my forte. It's, like, what I'm good at, um, 'cause I'm, I'm cool to take a punch, get hit. That's fine. I'll take a hit to land a better one on you, and, um, in bare knuckle, I mean, there's a lot of opportunity to fight guys who, um, I mean, I did fight Julian Lane who had experience in it.
Yeah.
He had nine fights in it-
Yeah.
... when we fought, and then I fought two guys who hadn't done it yet, so, you know, um ...
But it's, it's just, like, like, let's talk about those two guys, like, first of all, Michael Venom Page, that guy is super talented.
Yeah.
I mean, he's extraordinary. When you watch him fight in MMA, and he's a guy that I kind of predicted one day. I was like, the one skill that's m- that you don't see a lot of in MMA is this crazy blitz point fighting style 'cause those guys can cover crazy distances, those, those really good-
Yeah.
... point fighters, and he was a really good point fighter, and, um, he was the first guy that kind of shoo- showed how that style could apply in MMA. He's so elusive and so hard to hit, and, um, you know, you just put it on him.
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