Joe Rogan Experience #1563 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Joe Rogan Experience #1563 - Tony Hinchcliffe

The Joe Rogan ExperienceNov 12, 20203h 0m

Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Tony Hinchcliffe (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

COVID-19, lockdowns, and differences between California and TexasGolf, pool, and combat sports (boxing, MMA) as obsessions and technical craftsAnimal behavior and attacks (chimps, lions, koalas, orcas) and ethics of captivityNotorious cons and frauds (Theranos, Bernie Madoff, Elizabeth Holmes)Media, censorship, election coverage, and public attention cycles (Epstein, Fox, Twitter)Violence, crime, and human nature (choking deaths, spitting, sexual kinks, dark impulses)The business and future of stand‑up comedy, The Comedy Store, and moving to Texas

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #1563 - Tony Hinchcliffe explores rogan and Hinchcliffe riff on COVID, combat sports, chimps, chaos Joe Rogan and Tony Hinchcliffe have a sprawling, informal conversation that jumps from COVID’s impact on cities and comedy to golf, boxing, pool, wild animal attacks, con artists, and cancel culture.

Rogan and Hinchcliffe riff on COVID, combat sports, chimps, chaos

Joe Rogan and Tony Hinchcliffe have a sprawling, informal conversation that jumps from COVID’s impact on cities and comedy to golf, boxing, pool, wild animal attacks, con artists, and cancel culture.

They contrast life in locked‑down California with relatively open Texas, discuss the meditative addiction of golf, and then dive deep into technical talk on golf, pool, and elite boxing strategy and careers.

A major chunk of the discussion focuses on shocking animal stories (chimps, lions, koalas), human cruelty and fairness, scams like Theranos and Bernie Madoff, and how media, censorship, and endless news cycles shape public attention.

They close by reflecting on The Comedy Store’s golden era, the damage of COVID restrictions on live comedy, and the potential for rebuilding a new comedy hub in Texas.

Key Takeaways

Population density and policy drastically change how COVID feels on the ground.

Rogan and Hinchcliffe describe Texas as relaxed and functioning while LA feels fearful and shuttered, arguing that less density plus different leadership create more room for safe, open businesses.

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Skill‑heavy hobbies like golf or pool can be meditative and mentally protective.

Rogan notes that golf, like archery or pool, demands so much focus on mechanics and touch that it pulls you away from your phone and daily stress, acting as a form of moving meditation.

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Elite performance in sports comes from strategy and efficiency, not just talent.

Their breakdown of Mayweather, Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins, and others emphasizes distance control, game‑planning, and damage minimization as the real edge, not just power or toughness.

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Animals with high intelligence and social awareness can exhibit terrifying targeted cruelty.

Stories about chimp attacks show chimps intentionally destroying faces, fingers, and genitals as a response to perceived unfairness, illustrating that a sense of “justice” without human ethics can be brutally dangerous.

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Big frauds often ride on narrative, hero worship, and willful blindness.

Their Theranos and Madoff discussion highlights how people badly wanted a female Steve Jobs or a consistently winning investor, so they ignored red flags and skepticism until real harm was done.

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Endless news and social media cycles quickly erase outrage and accountability.

They argue that stories like Jeffrey Epstein’s death burned hot and then vanished because new controversies constantly replace them, making sustained focus and reform much harder.

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Comedy needs smart workarounds, not indefinite shutdowns, to survive pandemics.

Rogan outlines a model of rapid on‑site testing, limited crowds, and clear rules as a realistic path to bringing back real shows, criticizing inconsistent regulations that let restaurants operate but block outdoor, distanced comedy.

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Notable Quotes

When you come to a place that has less humans, you realize, 'Oh, that's better.'

Joe Rogan

Putting is the most like archery. It’s all touch.

Joe Rogan

Chimps don’t just try to kill you. They try to take away what it means to be a human.

Joe Rogan

Getting good at anything from scratch is one of the most important things a person can do.

Joe Rogan

Those were the golden years of The Comedy Store... and then it ended.

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

How much of people’s COVID risk tolerance is driven by actual data versus local culture and leadership messaging?

Joe Rogan and Tony Hinchcliffe have a sprawling, informal conversation that jumps from COVID’s impact on cities and comedy to golf, boxing, pool, wild animal attacks, con artists, and cancel culture.

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What separates a truly elite performer (in golf, boxing, comedy, or anything) from someone who just practices a lot but never improves?

They contrast life in locked‑down California with relatively open Texas, discuss the meditative addiction of golf, and then dive deep into technical talk on golf, pool, and elite boxing strategy and careers.

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What ethical line should we draw around keeping highly intelligent animals (chimps, orcas, dolphins) in captivity for zoos or entertainment?

A major chunk of the discussion focuses on shocking animal stories (chimps, lions, koalas), human cruelty and fairness, scams like Theranos and Bernie Madoff, and how media, censorship, and endless news cycles shape public attention.

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Why do certain frauds like Theranos or Madoff succeed for so long even when experts raise concerns—what social or psychological forces are at play?

They close by reflecting on The Comedy Store’s golden era, the damage of COVID restrictions on live comedy, and the potential for rebuilding a new comedy hub in Texas.

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How can live performance industries like stand‑up balance public health with economic survival without relying solely on government mandates?

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Transcript Preview

Narrator

(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Hello, Tony.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Yeah. Salud, my friend.

Joe Rogan

Oh.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Good to see you on the right side of America.

Joe Rogan

Feels good out here.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Feels good, right?

Joe Rogan

Whole different feel.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Feels normal.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

People aren't terrified.

Joe Rogan

Correct.

Tony Hinchcliffe

They got everybody scared as fuck in California.

Joe Rogan

It's horrible, man. Everything's shut down. Everything feels bad.

Tony Hinchcliffe

(sighs)

Joe Rogan

It's sad.

Tony Hinchcliffe

It is sad. It's-

Joe Rogan

The more, the more businesses are completely closed, the sadder it is. It's seeing stuff that you know.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

And the memories that you have there.

Tony Hinchcliffe

It's also ... I think it's harder to bounce back in big places. I think it's harder for big places to bounce back, 'cause you get like all these stores closed down. Like all the stores that got hit hard with the looting on Melrose-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

... like they're still closed, right?

Joe Rogan

Most of them.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Have any of them come back?

Joe Rogan

Most of them. Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

When you drive down M- ... The last time I was there, it's like boarded up, boarded up, boarded up, for lease, for lease, for lease. I'm like, this takes a long time to come back.

Joe Rogan

It feels that way, for sure.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Some places are open, but i- it's not the same vibe.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Yeah. Out here, they're not interested in shutting things down the same way, especially the governor. He's like, "We gotta keep businesses open." And, and he's right. Like you, you can do it safely. I mean, I think you could do it safely here better than California because there's lower numbers, there's less people.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

There's not ... Just, you know, and everyone's not as smooshed in together and everyone's more relaxed because of that. Like it makes you realize, when you come to a place that has less humans, it makes you realize like, "Oh, that's better." Like there's plenty of people out here. It's not like it- we're in the farms in the country in the middle of nowhere in the mountains. It's not like that.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

It's a city. But it's a l- less populated city and everything's just a little more (sighs)

Joe Rogan

Yeah, relaxed. LA is a giant county.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

It, it, it ... People think it's a city, and it's just a massive, huge place.

Tony Hinchcliffe

And it smooshes in with Orange County-

Joe Rogan

Right.

Tony Hinchcliffe

... which is even more populated, right?

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

I mean, how ... Is A- ar- w- no. Not ... LA's probably more populated than Orange County, but-

Narrator

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tony Hinchcliffe

Orange County's so dense, though. There's ... The traffic in Orange County on the 405 is mind-blowing. It's mind-blowing.

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