Joe Rogan Experience #1199 - Tom Segura & Sean Anders

Joe Rogan Experience #1199 - Tom Segura & Sean Anders

The Joe Rogan ExperienceNov 13, 20181h 55m

Tom Segura (guest), Sean Anders (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Tom Segura (guest), Guest (brief interjection) (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Narrator

Sean Anders’ early film career and the under-the-radar cult film *Sex Drive*The real-life story behind *Instant Family* and adopting three foster siblingsChallenges, stigma, and misconceptions around foster care and teen adoptionHollywood press junkets, media training, and predatory “gotcha” journalismClickbait culture, long-form journalism, and the rise of podcastsSports concussions, CTE, and parental anxiety around kids’ contact sportsCasting Tom Segura in *Instant Family* and the craft of auditions and comedy acting

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Tom Segura and Sean Anders, Joe Rogan Experience #1199 - Tom Segura & Sean Anders explores adoption, comedy, and clickbait: inside ‘Instant Family’ and beyond Joe Rogan talks with director Sean Anders and comedian Tom Segura about Anders’ film *Instant Family*, inspired by his real-life adoption of three siblings from foster care.

Adoption, comedy, and clickbait: inside ‘Instant Family’ and beyond

Joe Rogan talks with director Sean Anders and comedian Tom Segura about Anders’ film *Instant Family*, inspired by his real-life adoption of three siblings from foster care.

Anders details the chaotic, emotionally difficult early stages of adopting older kids, and how that experience evolved into both a functional family and a heartfelt studio comedy.

They also dig into Hollywood press culture, media training, clickbait journalism, and how out-of-context soundbites can damage careers.

The conversation branches into broader topics like CTE in sports, language and culture, and the unexpectedly collaborative way Segura was cast and shaped his role in the film.

Key Takeaways

Adopting from foster care is brutally hard at first, then transformative.

Anders describes the early phase with his three adopted kids as a ‘nightmare’ of chaos, fear, and second-guessing, but says that once the family bond took hold, it became unequivocally the best thing that ever happened to him.

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Teenagers in foster care are highly overlooked and deeply stigmatized.

At an adoption fair, Anders saw teens literally standing off to the side because prospective parents were afraid of them; that experience inspired the teen character in *Instant Family* and pushed him to highlight positive teen-adoption stories.

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Comedy can be an effective gateway into serious, ‘scary’ social topics.

Anders and his writing partner realized that framing foster-care adoption as a comedy would let them reach a wider audience and counter the usual horror-movie narrative that foster kids are ‘damaged’ or ‘unreachable.’

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Modern press dynamics reward traps and out-of-context quotes.

The guests recount interviews where seemingly innocent questions were designed to create clickable scandals, underscoring why media training now focuses on staying on-message and refusing bait rather than just ‘being yourself.’

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Clickbait is eroding trust, but it’s also creating demand for depth.

They argue that while low-effort outrage and gossip dominate traffic, there’s a parallel appetite for deeply researched journalism and long-form conversations—one reason podcasts and substantial investigative pieces still thrive.

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Subconcussive hits in youth sports can quietly cause lasting brain damage.

Rogan highlights emerging research showing that even non-knockout impacts in football, lacrosse, and heading the ball in soccer are strongly linked to CTE, prompting him to question whether kids should play high-contact sports at all.

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Casting is about persona as much as raw talent—and auditions often misfire.

Anders wanted Segura specifically for the role because of his laid-back comedic persona, but Segura’s first audition missed that quality; only after a working session at Anders’ house and a second try did he land the part, demonstrating how roles are tailored to the performer.

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Notable Quotes

The beginning of it was a nightmare… and then when it came online and we became a family, it really became the best thing that ever happened to me.

Sean Anders

I always thought of people who do that—adopt kids—as nameless, faceless angels. Like, they’re not real people.

Tom Segura

So much of media training now is just about: don’t go out and get yourself into trouble by talking about some ridiculous area that people are trying to drag you into for clickbait.

Sean Anders

If you were a doctor and did what some of these ‘journalists’ do, they’d pull your license. But as a journalist, there’s a lot of wiggle room with being a piece of shit.

Joe Rogan

You guys are saving my child’s life right now… I had to YouTube lacrosse to even see how you play it.

Sean Anders

Questions Answered in This Episode

How did your kids react to seeing *Instant Family*, and did they feel accurately represented or misunderstood by the film?

Joe Rogan talks with director Sean Anders and comedian Tom Segura about Anders’ film *Instant Family*, inspired by his real-life adoption of three siblings from foster care.

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What specific moments or episodes from your real adoption journey were too painful or complex to include in a studio comedy?

Anders details the chaotic, emotionally difficult early stages of adopting older kids, and how that experience evolved into both a functional family and a heartfelt studio comedy.

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Has *Instant Family* measurably increased interest in foster-care adoption, especially of sibling groups and teens, in any of the agencies you’ve worked with?

They also dig into Hollywood press culture, media training, clickbait journalism, and how out-of-context soundbites can damage careers.

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Given your experiences with ‘gotcha’ questions, what do you think ethical entertainment journalism should look like today?

The conversation branches into broader topics like CTE in sports, language and culture, and the unexpectedly collaborative way Segura was cast and shaped his role in the film.

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If you could redesign youth sports from scratch with full knowledge of CTE risks, what rules or cultural norms would you change first?

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Transcript Preview

Tom Segura

I didn't realize how good your hair is.

Sean Anders

Thanks. I'm losing it, but it's, what's left of it is still working all right.

Joe Rogan

Boom, and we're live, gentlemen. Hello, Sean.

Sean Anders

Hey, how are ya?

Joe Rogan

Hello, Tom.

Tom Segura

Hello, Joseph.

Joe Rogan

What's go- you guys did a movie? Did you make a movie?

Tom Segura

We made a movie.

Sean Anders

We did.

Joe Rogan

You guys do movies?

Sean Anders

We do. We're movie guys.

Tom Segura

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

How many movies have you made?

Sean Anders

Uh, well, one.

Tom Segura

Well, I bet you've made ... How many have you made before?

Sean Anders

Uh, uh, like six. But-

Tom Segura

Yeah.

Sean Anders

But we've made one.

Tom Segura

We've made one.

Sean Anders

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

What's your favorite one other than the one that's right now, which is definitely your favorite? 'Cause you're promoting it right now.

Sean Anders

Uh, Sex Drive.

Joe Rogan

Sex Drive? Which one was that?

Sean Anders

It's the first one. It's the one nobody knows about.

Tom Segura

Yeah, it's his first one.

Joe Rogan

Oh. Nobody knows about it?

Sean Anders

I mean, it just, it was one of those movies that just opened and nobody knew about it, but it was, it was a really, really fun movie. It was.

Joe Rogan

Maybe we could change that.

Sean Anders

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Is it on iTunes or Netflix or-

Sean Anders

Yeah, yeah, it's all over. James Marsden's in it. harry-

Tom Segura

This is the one, is this the one that you, like, when you made it, you were like, "And maybe I'll go back to working fucking construction." Or whatever, right?

Sean Anders

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's, I thought, I thought, thought it was over after that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

Did you finance it or anything?

Sean Anders

No, no, we made it, um, we made it with Summit Pictures and it was, it was, it was amazing. They, they, uh, we were in town trying to get a career going, you know, trying to, trying to make things happen. We were making a TV pilot at the time, which was a living hell. And, uh, and we had gone out and pitched this, uh, idea to a bunch of places and nobody bought it. So then in the middle of our, uh, editing our pilot, Summit Pictures called and said, um, "We really, we keep thinking about that pitch. Would you guys be willing to write it?" And I said, "You know what? Tell them ..." I was really busy. I said, "Tell them we'll write it if I can direct it." But I figured that would make them go away. And they said, "All right." And so we went in and we wrote it and we turned it in and they green lit it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

(laughs)

Sean Anders

It was just crazy. It was just this crazy process where we got this movie green lit and I think we wrote the draft in, in like a month and then we turned it in and they, they loved it and they said-

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