Joe Rogan Experience #2365 - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

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Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) So what did you think about the whole UFO thing before you got into office?

Um, so I actually had, when I was stationed at Portland Air National Guard, my job there was an air field manager, so I would interface and work a lot with the F-15 pilots at the unit. (smacks lips) And so, um, there had been an airspace incursion that had taken place when I was still at the time at the Guard. And I remember kind of talking to some of the pilots about it and I was like, "What was that?" And they're like, "Eh, we can't really talk about it." And no one really wanted to address it. And so from what I'd gathered, that had been likely a UAP. Um, and so that kind of was my perspective. Granted, I also grew up in the generation of The X-Files and, you know, I don't know if you remember 94 Independence Day. So like for me specifically, I didn't look at it with like a crazy lens and perspective. I'm like, you know, you, you never know if, you know, we're the only ones out there essentially.

But why did you assume that if it's a top secret incursion that he couldn't talk about, that it wasn't just a military craft from another country?

Because of the way that he was discussing it.

How did he... What did he say?

So he had been, um, (smacks lips) he, he didn't wanna, from what I gather, get taken off flight status, and he's like, "I really can't discuss it." Um, we couldn't really, like, identify it essentially. And it had outperformed them. And so that was my first, from a military perspective, kind of experience with someone who basically, you know, there's a stigma within the flight community, um, do you want to lose your security clearance? Um, what... You know, is there this level of crazy that people kind of brand that will stick with you and kind of ruin your career.

But doesn't he have instrumentation on his jet?

Well, at the time, right? So it was an old- an older platform, but-

Mm-hmm.

... he really w- didn't wanna even talk about it. And I bring that up because now with our investigation and the task force that I run, actually the reason why the task force was formed was because of a, uh, event that happened at Eglin Air Force Base, where both myself, Representative Matt Gaetz, and Representative Tim Burchett actually had responded and gone to investigate mult- multiple Air Force pilots that had come forward in regards to UAP incidences that had occurred, and they were alleging that the Air Force was covering it up.

Interesting.

Yeah. So that was... That and like, I'm happy to go into detail on that one, but what I will tell you is the stuff that I saw at Eglin, how the military responded, me being, uh, you know, a former service member and then ultimately what I saw with the t- the pushback of the military not even wanting to share with Congress information, which is a big problem. Because when you have Congress that's supposed to be the advocate and voice for the American people, the oversight body, and you're being denied access, not just from a base commander, but high level up at the Pentagon, even Secretary of Defense, it's a problem.