JRE MMA Show #47 with Tyson Fury

JRE MMA Show #47 with Tyson Fury

The Joe Rogan ExperienceOct 26, 20181h 13m

Joe Rogan (host), Tyson Fury (guest)

Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder: styles, stakes, and negotiationsFury’s victory over Wladimir Klitschko and subsequent title-strippingSevere depression, addiction, and suicide attempt after becoming championFaith, goal-setting, and training as Fury’s path out of mental illnessWeight loss, nutrition, and radical lifestyle change (400 lbs back to fighting shape)Choosing a young, unknown trainer and evolving training philosophyCritique of heavyweight boxing business, Anthony Joshua negotiations, and legacy

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Tyson Fury, JRE MMA Show #47 with Tyson Fury explores tyson Fury on Wilder, depression, suicide, faith, and redemption Tyson Fury sits down with Joe Rogan to discuss his comeback fight against Deontay Wilder and why he actively chose that dangerous matchup. Beyond boxing, he offers a raw account of his post-Klitschko collapse into severe depression, substance abuse, and a near-suicide attempt at 190 mph in a Ferrari.

Tyson Fury on Wilder, depression, suicide, faith, and redemption

Tyson Fury sits down with Joe Rogan to discuss his comeback fight against Deontay Wilder and why he actively chose that dangerous matchup. Beyond boxing, he offers a raw account of his post-Klitschko collapse into severe depression, substance abuse, and a near-suicide attempt at 190 mph in a Ferrari.

Fury details losing his titles, weight gain to 400 pounds, drug and alcohol abuse, and being medically ruled unfit to fight, while also fighting a long anti-doping case. He explains how faith, goal-setting, physical training, and lifestyle changes—not antidepressant medication—pulled him out of suicidal depression.

He describes rebuilding his career with a young, unknown trainer, overhauling his conditioning and diet, and positioning the Wilder fight as a legacy move in contrast to what he sees as risk-avoidance from Anthony Joshua’s camp.

Throughout, Fury emphasizes that his true purpose now extends beyond boxing: using his story to raise awareness about mental health and to promote goal-setting, exercise, and self-knowledge as tools against depression.

Key Takeaways

Goal-setting and daily structure were central to Fury’s recovery from depression.

He argues that specific short- and long-term goals—first just losing 10 pounds at a time, then regaining the heavyweight title—kept his mind occupied and pulled him away from destructive thoughts.

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Physical training and activity dramatically improved his mental health.

Fury says he does not experience depression when he’s training hard and exhausted; exercise-induced endorphins, fatigue, and routine leave him with little mental space for dark thoughts.

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He chose faith and behavioral change over long-term antidepressant use.

Despite being diagnosed and prescribed medication, Fury relied mainly on prayer, belief in God, and lifestyle change instead of continuing antidepressant drugs, while stressing he’s not telling others to abandon medical treatment.

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Substance use worsened his depression rather than numbing it.

Heavy daily drinking and cocaine initially seemed like an escape, but he realized the hangovers and chemical lows intensified his suicidal thoughts and overall despair.

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Fury believes a clear purpose is more motivating than money or titles.

He insists that once he beat Klitschko—his lifelong goal—he felt empty because he lacked a new mission, and that money, fame, and belts alone were never meaningful enough to sustain him.

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He sees his mental-health advocacy as a ‘bigger purpose’ than boxing.

Fury now views openly discussing his illness, suicide attempt, and recovery as his true calling, hoping to offer a ‘blueprint’ for others suffering in silence.

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From a boxing perspective, he views Wilder as a ‘one-trick pony’.

Technically, Fury frames the Wilder fight as power versus skill, arguing that if he avoids Wilder’s big right hand through movement and ring IQ, he should win rounds comfortably.

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Notable Quotes

I woke up and thought, ‘Why did I wake up this morning?’ I had everything a man could want, but I felt I had nothing.

Tyson Fury

I got the car up to 190 miles an hour heading toward a bridge. I didn’t care about anything; I just wanted to die so bad.

Tyson Fury

The way to beat mental health is setting goals—short-term and long-term. When I’ve got a goal and I’m active, I don’t suffer.

Tyson Fury

If I wasn’t crazy, I wouldn’t be great.

Tyson Fury

Boxing’s a dirty business.

Tyson Fury

Questions Answered in This Episode

How generalizable is Fury’s ‘goals and hard training’ approach to depression for people who don’t have elite-athlete capabilities or resources?

Tyson Fury sits down with Joe Rogan to discuss his comeback fight against Deontay Wilder and why he actively chose that dangerous matchup. ...

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What safeguards does Fury have in place now to prevent another post-victory psychological crash if he achieves another ‘Everest’ like beating Wilder or Joshua?

Fury details losing his titles, weight gain to 400 pounds, drug and alcohol abuse, and being medically ruled unfit to fight, while also fighting a long anti-doping case. ...

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How should boxing governing bodies reform title rules and anti-doping procedures to avoid situations like Fury’s early stripping and prolonged nandrolone case?

He describes rebuilding his career with a young, unknown trainer, overhauling his conditioning and diet, and positioning the Wilder fight as a legacy move in contrast to what he sees as risk-avoidance from Anthony Joshua’s camp.

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To what extent do promoters and networks bear responsibility for making legacy-defining heavyweight fights versus protecting their ‘golden goose’ champions?

Throughout, Fury emphasizes that his true purpose now extends beyond boxing: using his story to raise awareness about mental health and to promote goal-setting, exercise, and self-knowledge as tools against depression.

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How can high-profile athletes talk about faith-based recovery without unintentionally discouraging fans from seeking professional mental health care when they need it?

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Transcript Preview

Joe Rogan

Boom, and we're live. How are you, brother? What's going on?

Tyson Fury

I'm good. It's good to see you.

Joe Rogan

Pull this sucker up to you.

Tyson Fury

Boom. How's that?

Joe Rogan

Boom. Good.

Tyson Fury

(claps)

Joe Rogan

I'm very excited about your fight, man. Very excited.

Tyson Fury

Not as excited as I am-

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tyson Fury

... to be here.

Joe Rogan

I'm sure. What... H- how often is it that two undefeated... I mean, you're not a heavyweight champ because they stripped you, but you never lost. Two undefeated heavyweight champions go at it like this. This is a huge fight.

Tyson Fury

Very much so. It's never, ever happened before, ever.

Joe Rogan

It's pretty exciting.

Tyson Fury

Someone two as big as us, um, have never, ever fought each other. (sniffs)

Joe Rogan

What do you think of... I mean, for people who don't know, you're fighting Deontay Wilder, who's a, an American undefeated knockout artist. And you are probably one of the more interesting guys in the heavyweight division, not just 'cause of your personality, but your skillset, the way you move. You're long and tall, but you got great footwork and you're fast. You know, it's a very, very interesting fight as far as, like, boxing technique.

Tyson Fury

It's power, raw power versus boxing skill. Two guys, one six-foot-nine, one six-foot-seven, both charismatic, both talkers, one British, one American. It doesn't get any bigger than this. This is the biggest fight that could be made at this time in the heavyweight division or in the world of boxing.

Joe Rogan

When you watch Deontay Wilder move around, w- there's nobody that moves like that guy. So odd. Like-

Tyson Fury

He reminds me of Bambi on ice.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tyson Fury

He doesn't really find his legs underneath him. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

No, sometimes he throws and he's got no legs underneath him. He's just-

Tyson Fury

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

... he's swinging and literally he's flying through the air as he's punching.

Tyson Fury

I've seen him fall over a few times as well.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tyson Fury

But listen, the guy tries to land that big punch and-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tyson Fury

... when you're trying to knock people out with every single punch, then if you miss, it becomes a problem and you go off balance and maybe fall over.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tyson Fury

(sniffs)

Joe Rogan

Were you, uh, impressed with him in the Luis Ortiz fight?

Tyson Fury

I was impressed with him because he came back.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tyson Fury

And he was losing all the rounds. I only gave Wilder the rounds that he knocked Ortiz down in. Um, so he done well. It was his acid test, so to say, come through. Ortiz is 49 years old. Um, albeit-

Joe Rogan

At least.

Tyson Fury

At least. Albeit he was past his, past, like, his prime age, but still undefeated, um, champion going in. So it was a great victory for Deontay Wilder, and he proved to me that he can get, come back, get hurt, come back, and win a fight.

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