Joe Rogan Experience #1396 - Michelle Wolf

Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1396 - Michelle Wolf
Uploaded: 2019-12-10T12:00:00Z
Duration: 2 h 37 min 52 s
Description: Joe Rogan and Michelle Wolf have a long, fast-paced conversation that bounces from psychedelics, AI, robots, and supervolcanoes to cancel culture, gender politics, and stand-up craft. Wolf talks about her late start in comedy after a finance career, her White House Correspondents’ Dinner backlash, and how that distorted people’s sense of what she actually does onstage.

The Joe Rogan ExperienceDec 10, 20192h 37m

Host (host), Host (host), Guest 2 (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Psychedelics, microdosing, and spiritual experimentation (crystals, shamans, ayahuasca)Robots, AI, surveillance devices (Alexa), and fear of technological overreachCancel culture, social media outrage, and the policing of jokesGender differences, workplace dynamics, trans athletes, and women’s sports fairnessRacism, historical oppression, prison labor, and ideas like reparationsThe craft and business of stand-up comedy, including underappreciated comicsSex, relationships, prostitution legality, and porn’s increasingly taboo themes

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Host and Host, Joe Rogan Experience #1396 - Michelle Wolf explores michelle Wolf and Joe Rogan Dive Into Comedy, Culture, and Chaos Joe Rogan and Michelle Wolf have a long, fast-paced conversation that bounces from psychedelics, AI, robots, and supervolcanoes to cancel culture, gender politics, and stand-up craft. Wolf talks about her late start in comedy after a finance career, her White House Correspondents’ Dinner backlash, and how that distorted people’s sense of what she actually does onstage.

Michelle Wolf and Joe Rogan Dive Into Comedy, Culture, and Chaos

Joe Rogan and Michelle Wolf have a long, fast-paced conversation that bounces from psychedelics, AI, robots, and supervolcanoes to cancel culture, gender politics, and stand-up craft. Wolf talks about her late start in comedy after a finance career, her White House Correspondents’ Dinner backlash, and how that distorted people’s sense of what she actually does onstage.

They repeatedly circle back to how modern outrage culture works—online pile-ons, policing of language, the difficulty of nuanced conversations about trans issues and women’s sports—and how all of it intersects with stand-up comedy. The pair also dig into gender dynamics at work, relationships, sex work, prostitution laws, and how men and women are actually different despite current rhetoric.

Threaded through are stories about other comics (Dave Attell, Ari Shaffir, Eddie Murphy, Tracy Morgan), weird historical medical practices, syphilis and wigs, prison labor, racism, and whether society is genuinely improving over time. The tone is loose and comedic but anchored by recurring, serious questions about fairness, free speech, and how we police behavior versus ideas.

Key Takeaways

Psychedelics are increasingly framed as both recreational and therapeutic tools.

Rogan describes microdosing psilocybin as a way many people subtly reduce anxiety and boost creativity, while higher doses bring fear and intense experiences; Wolf shares her own recent, highly giggly mushroom trip and openness to ayahuasca as part of a broader spiritual “phase.”

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Fear of AI and robotics is as much cultural as it is technical.

Wolf openly says robots terrify her and jokes about scolding MIT students for building robot cheetahs, while Rogan highlights privacy concerns around devices like Alexa—capturing a real tension between innovation and civil-liberties anxiety.

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Modern outrage culture thrives on public “executions” and online mobs.

They compare Twitter pile-ons to historical spectacles like public hangings, arguing that many people seek power and catharsis by destroying someone’s reputation rather than addressing hard, systemic issues like entrenched racism or failing communities.

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Conversations about trans inclusion in sports are blocked by fear of backlash.

Both argue it’s obvious that biological males have physical advantages and that trans women competing against biological women creates unfairness, especially in strength sports; they suggest trans-only divisions as a pragmatic compromise but note that questioning current orthodoxy invites immediate accusations of bigotry.

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Men and women are not interchangeable, and pretending they are creates new problems.

Wolf stresses that saying women are exactly like men makes male traits the default “correct” standard; they argue for equal rights but also for acknowledging different preferences, social dynamics, and the distinct value of women’s spaces and friendships.

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Stand-up comedy is a live, iterative process that outrage culture misunderstands.

They defend Louis C. ...

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Legalizing and regulating prostitution could reduce harm but wouldn’t erase stigma.

Rogan and Wolf suggest that if sex work were legal and unionized, it could be safer and less exploitative, but note that outlawing it adds layers of crime and trafficking; they also highlight the gender asymmetry, since male strippers don’t carry the same social penalty.

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Notable Quotes

“You have standards until you don’t have options.”
— Michelle Wolf

“I don’t like any time a comic is taken seriously.”
— Michelle Wolf

“The audience is ultimately supposed to be the judge of whether or not something’s good.”
— Joe Rogan

“This is what bothers me: you can’t even question or have any discussions around it.”
— Michelle Wolf (on trans issues and women’s sports)

“We have standards until we don’t have options… People get desperate and everything changes.”
— Joe Rogan, paraphrasing and extending Wolf’s point about desire and compromise

Questions Answered in This Episode

Where should society draw the line between protecting marginalized groups and preserving the freedom to experiment with edgy, offensive comedy?

Joe Rogan and Michelle Wolf have a long, fast-paced conversation that bounces from psychedelics, AI, robots, and supervolcanoes to cancel culture, gender politics, and stand-up craft. ...

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How could sports organizations realistically create fair frameworks for trans athletes without erasing women’s categories or stigmatizing trans participants?

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Is social media outrage ever an effective tool for real justice, or does it mostly reward performative activism and mob behavior?

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If prostitution were legalized and unionized, what specific regulations and safeguards would best protect sex workers while minimizing exploitation?

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Given the historical harms of racism and structural inequality, what kinds of concrete interventions—beyond cash reparations—might actually transform struggling communities?

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Host

Mm. Yes! How many lame wolf jokes have you had to endure-

Host

Uh.

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... over your life?

Host

You know what? I like them.

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Do you?

Host

So, yeah.

Host

What's the worst?

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Bring them on.

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(laughs)

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Joe List constantly tries to get the nickname Wolf of Wall Street started. (laughs)

Host

(laughs)

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Every time I see him, he's like, "Wolf of Wall Street."

Host

Why?

Host

It's gonna catch on. He says it to no one.

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(laughs)

Host

It's gonna catch on. It's gonna catch on. (laughs)

Host

You were saying that you like the turmeric coffee, but you don't like to admit that you like that stuff?

Host

Yeah, I, like, recently got into, like, all this, like, kinda like, you know, this, like, new age-y health stuff and, and crystals.

Host

You got into crystals?

Host

I mean, a little bit. I'm on the fringe of the crystal, you know, might be-

Host

For real?

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... wearing a little rose quartz.

Host

Mm-hmm.

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And, uh ... (laughs)

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What are you ... Like, what's the thought behind being into crystals?

Host

I hon- honestly think it's a lot of it's, like, just in your 30s at some point.

Host

Oh, okay.

Host

As a woman, I think you get into crystals.

Host

Yeah, if you don't get a kid or a dog. (laughs)

Host

Yeah, you're kinda just like, you're just like, "You know what? Maybe I can bring some energy-"

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(laughs)

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"... from somewhere." It's like, it's like, "Why not?"

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Start burning sage.

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Yeah.

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(humming sound)

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Yeah. (laughs) I don't think it'll last forever. I just think I'm in a little bit of a, a little bit of a crystal phase right now.

Host

A, like a spiritual phase?

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A kind of, yeah.

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Yeah?

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I was, like, thinking about ... Oh my God, this is so embar- (laughs) Why am I starting so embarrassing? I was thinking about maybe looking up, like, shamans in New York, you know?

Host

Whoa.

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To be like, "Maybe I can get, like ... Just explore the spiritual universe a little bit." I think it means I'm lonely. (laughs)

Host

It probably means you're lonely. But, y- like, shamans, like, do you wanna do drugs?

Host

Oh, I mean, I'd be ... I, I'd love to do ayahuasca.

Host

Yeah, so that's ... If ... They're not gonna be listed. You're gonna have to find somewhere.

Host

Right. (laughs)