The Only Dating Advice You'll Ever Need

The Only Dating Advice You'll Ever Need

The Mel Robbins PodcastDec 9, 20241h 20m

Logan Ury (guest), Mel Robbins (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Dating as a skill vs. innate ability to loveImpact and misuse of dating apps (filters, choice overload, algorithms)Myths of instant chemistry, “the spark,” and soulmatesThree dating tendencies: romanticizer, maximizer, hesitaterHow to create effective dating profiles and better first datesFear of rejection and the shift from passive to proactive datingMidlife and later-life dating: baggage, constraints, and new opportunities

In this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast, featuring Logan Ury and Mel Robbins, The Only Dating Advice You'll Ever Need explores stop Chasing Sparks: Build Better Relationships With Smarter Dating Habits Mel Robbins interviews behavioral scientist and dating expert Logan Ury about why modern dating feels so hard and what people are actually doing wrong. Ury explains that dating is a learnable skill, separate from our innate ability to love, and that many struggles come from unrealistic expectations, poor app habits, and fear of rejection. They dismantle myths about “the spark” and soulmates, show how app filters and checklist thinking quietly sabotage matches, and introduce three self-sabotaging dating tendencies: romanticizer, maximizer, and hesitater. The episode offers concrete, research-backed tactics for online profiles, first dates, meeting people offline, and dating at midlife, all focused on taking back control instead of blaming apps or “the market.”

Stop Chasing Sparks: Build Better Relationships With Smarter Dating Habits

Mel Robbins interviews behavioral scientist and dating expert Logan Ury about why modern dating feels so hard and what people are actually doing wrong. Ury explains that dating is a learnable skill, separate from our innate ability to love, and that many struggles come from unrealistic expectations, poor app habits, and fear of rejection. They dismantle myths about “the spark” and soulmates, show how app filters and checklist thinking quietly sabotage matches, and introduce three self-sabotaging dating tendencies: romanticizer, maximizer, and hesitater. The episode offers concrete, research-backed tactics for online profiles, first dates, meeting people offline, and dating at midlife, all focused on taking back control instead of blaming apps or “the market.”

Key Takeaways

Treat dating as a skill you can practice and improve.

You’re born knowing how to love, not how to date; instead of seeing your situation as fixed or hopeless, approach dating like learning a language or instrument—something you can get better at through intentional practice, reflection, and experimentation.

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Loosen rigid filters and stop ‘relationshopping’ on the apps.

Height, age, geography, and other strict filters act like an overzealous bouncer at the door of your ‘dating club,’ quietly excluding the majority of potential partners before you ever meet; widening those filters and focusing less on specs and more on how someone makes you feel dramatically increases your real-world options.

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‘Fuck the spark’: prioritize slow burns over instant fireworks.

The idea that you must feel instant chemistry, that spark always means something good, or that its presence guarantees a viable relationship are all myths; research shows attraction can grow over time, ‘sparky’ people can trigger chemistry with everyone, and strong long-term bonds are usually built with consistent, reliable partners—not just the most exciting ones.

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Identify and correct your dominant dating tendency.

Romanticizers cling to soulmate fantasies and origin stories, maximizers endlessly search for a ‘perfect’ Frankenstein partner, and hesitaters wait until they’re ‘ready’ to be lovable; recognizing which one you are lets you shift mindsets (toward ‘work-it-out’ relationships, satisficing, or starting before you feel ready) and make different choices.

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Move from passive swiping to proactive, in-control dating.

Relying only on inbound messages or complaining about algorithms keeps you in the passenger seat; taking the wheel means optimizing your profile, sending thoughtful comments (not just likes), initiating conversations, flirting and talking to people in real life, and choosing partners instead of waiting to be chosen.

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Upgrade your first dates from ‘press play’ small talk to real connection.

Endless biographical Q&A (“Where are you from? ...

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At any age, choose the problems you can live with, not a person with none.

Everyone, especially in midlife and later, comes with baggage—kids, exes, health, careers—and waiting for someone with zero complications is a maximizer trap; your real power is deciding which set of challenges you’re willing and able to handle and building a relationship around those realities.

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Notable Quotes

We are born knowing how to love, but not knowing how to date.

Logan Ury

Great relationships are built, they're not discovered.

Logan Ury

The only way to get better at dating is by dating.

Logan Ury

Life doesn’t happen to you. If that’s your mindset, you’re really missing out.

Logan Ury

If you find that you’re just blaming the apps, you’re missing the biggest source of your power—which is what’s in your control.

Mel Robbins

Questions Answered in This Episode

Which of the three dating tendencies—romanticizer, maximizer, or hesitater—most closely describes me, and what concrete behaviors show up in my dating life because of it?

Mel Robbins interviews behavioral scientist and dating expert Logan Ury about why modern dating feels so hard and what people are actually doing wrong. ...

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If I stopped blaming apps, my city, or ‘the dating pool,’ what would I have to admit I’m actually avoiding or afraid of?

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What filters or checklist items am I using that might be quietly eliminating people I could genuinely connect and build a life with?

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How might my dating life change if I stopped chasing an instant spark and committed to giving ‘slow burn’ connections a real second or third date?

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If everyone comes with baggage, what specific kinds of baggage am I truly willing to live with—and which are absolute deal breakers for me, based on experience rather than fear?

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Logan Ury

You're too picky. You aren't putting yourself out there. You have unrealistic expectations. Dating is a skill, and we're born knowing how to love, but not knowing how to date. Great relationships are built, they're not discovered, and if you really understand that you can build the relationship of your dreams, it takes the pressure off of finding the perfect person.

Mel Robbins

Wow. How do you handle, in a relationship, all the baggage that somebody comes with?

Logan Ury

I think where people get into trouble is where they think, "If I keep on dating, eventually I'll find someone with no problems." You should switch that to the mindset of, "What are problems that I can deal with?" There's baggage that you can deal with and baggage that you can't, and you get to choose.

Mel Robbins

I love that. Can you explain why our obsession with the instant chemistry and the soulmate might be holding someone back from finding their partner?

Logan Ury

The spark has become my nemesis because people have really unrealistic expectations around it. And so, there are three myths of the spark. The first one is that if you don't have a spark in the beginning, it can't grow, and that's absolutely not true. The second myth is that if you feel a spark, it's a good thing, and that's definitely not always the case. And then the third one is that-

Mel Robbins

Hey, it's your friend Mel Robbins. I am so fired up that you're here. This is gonna be an extraordinary episode. I know that you're gonna share this with absolutely everybody that you love because the topic is fire and it's relevant, and you need to hear this. And I just wanna say, it's always an honor to get to spend some time and be together with you, and if you're brand new, I wanna take a moment before we jump into this topic and welcome you to the Mel Robbins Podcast family. I think we're gonna have a lot of new listeners to this episode because this is such an important topic that I bet somebody shared this with you. And I also know that you're the type of person that values your time, and I promise you, this is going to be worth your time because there are a lot of you that listen that are in a committed relationship, but there's a lot of people that listen or that are in your life who are not. They're struggling. And I want you to know, I'm seeing it. I'm seeing it with the people that I love in my life. I'm seeing the struggles in the inbox as you're writing in from around the world, whether you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s. It is hard out there. In fact, I remember when my mother-in-law was a widower and she wanted to put herself out there, so we tried to get her on the apps, and it was frustrating, and that was a decade ago, and it seems to have only gotten worse and I wanted to do something about it. So, I've called in somebody to help you, and if you're in a committed relationship, they are here to help you understand what's going on and to help the people that you love who are not. She's here to help you find love that you deserve in what is a very confusing and overwhelming dating scene, and that's why I am absolutely thrilled to welcome Logan Ury to our Boston studio, so let me tell you a little bit about her. Logan Ury is a Harvard-trained behavioral scientist, a dating coach, a researcher on dating and love, and she is the author of the best-selling book How to Not Die Alone. She has spent the last five years as the director of relationship science at Hinge, studying dating trends and helping people just like you and the people that you love build better relationships and make a fabulous match with somebody who is awesome. And I'm gonna say something right up front. This is not an episode that's sponsored by Hinge. I asked Ury to be on for a particular reason because I really love her advice because she brings the data, the science, and the research that you've never heard before. This episode is for everyone in your life who's single or who is struggling in their relationships. It is gonna completely change how you look at dating, no matter how old you are. We are gonna be taking questions from listeners of all age groups, whether you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. The information is absolutely relevant for anyone of any age, anywhere in the world. Logan is with you and me today to break everything down step-by-step, because it turns out everything that you're probably doing online, you've gotten wrong. She is with you and me today because she's going to be breaking down, one-by-one, every single thing that you've gotten wrong about dating in today's world, especially online dating. Like how you filter potential partners, to the reason why you feel pushed to get back with your ex, to the mistakes that you make on the first date, to how your profile is absolutely wrong and how you're probably looking for the wrong things, and the shocking data about who successfully matches and creates a committed relationship and why they do. And also, we're gonna talk about why waiting for the fairy tale is holding you back from what is right in front of you right now. I'm so excited about this episode because it is full of tactics and research and things that you can do, and you need to hear it because too many of you are going through your life or your relationships without the necessary tools to find success. What you will learn today is extraordinarily special, and it has the potential to change your life. So, without further ado, please help me welcome Logan Ury to the Mel Robbins Podcast.

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