Michael Malice - The Corporate Press Are Losing Control

Michael Malice - The Corporate Press Are Losing Control

Modern WisdomFeb 14, 20221h 7m

Michael Malice (guest), Chris Williamson (host)

Corporate media’s agenda-setting power and use of fear/anxietyCanadian trucker convoy, GoFundMe controversy, and working-class dissentWoke politics, victimhood status, and cultural bifurcationCOVID policies, safety vs. liberty, and the psychology of complianceRussia–Ukraine tensions and the incentives of the military–industrial complexPolitical personality cults (Boris, Trump, Corbyn) and media-driven leadership crisesHistorical atrocities (Holodomor, Pol Pot) and media complicity or neglect

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Michael Malice and Chris Williamson, Michael Malice - The Corporate Press Are Losing Control explores michael Malice Explains How Corporate Media Manufactures Fear And Control Michael Malice and Chris Williamson discuss how corporate media, not elected politicians, increasingly set the boundaries of public opinion and political possibility, using fear, outrage, and moral panics as tools of control. They examine contemporary flashpoints—the Canadian trucker convoy, Joe Rogan, Whoopi Goldberg, Russia–Ukraine, and COVID policies—as examples of how narratives are framed to delegitimize dissent and amplify anxiety.

Michael Malice Explains How Corporate Media Manufactures Fear And Control

Michael Malice and Chris Williamson discuss how corporate media, not elected politicians, increasingly set the boundaries of public opinion and political possibility, using fear, outrage, and moral panics as tools of control. They examine contemporary flashpoints—the Canadian trucker convoy, Joe Rogan, Whoopi Goldberg, Russia–Ukraine, and COVID policies—as examples of how narratives are framed to delegitimize dissent and amplify anxiety.

Malice argues that elites cyclically adopt and discard victim groups as tools, that the working class is routinely pathologized when defiant, and that ‘woke’ corporate posturing is often more about fear and brand management than conviction. They also explore how public victimhood, social media outrage, and ambient cultural anxiety shape dating, mental health discourse, and institutional behavior.

The conversation broadens into historical atrocities like Stalin’s Holodomor and Pol Pot’s Cambodia to show how media omissions and narrative gaps shape what societies remember or ignore. Throughout, Malice maintains that the “corporate press” are an active political actor with an agenda to maintain high levels of fear and dependence, and that alternative information ecosystems are a growing response.

Key Takeaways

Corporate media act as political protagonists, not neutral observers.

Malice contends that outlets don’t merely report with a bias; they pursue an agenda—deliberately shaping which problems are amplified, which solutions are deemed acceptable, and which politicians are constrained or empowered. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Fear and ambient anxiety are core media products, not byproducts.

According to Malice, headlines around COVID, white supremacy, Rogan, or protests are used to keep emotional “volume” high because fear creates attention, dependency, and justification for social and political control. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Elites instrumentalize identity groups and discard them when inconvenient.

The conversation argues that progressives cyclically champion immigrants, unions, or other minorities only so long as they advance a broader agenda; once groups like Canadian truckers defy mandates, they are rebranded as Nazis or extremists, revealing that their value is instrumental, not principled.

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Working-class dissent is frequently reframed as ignorance or pathology.

Truck drivers protesting mandates are depicted as brainwashed, dangerous, or mentally unwell, while urban professionals’ neuroses are externalized onto them. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Public victimhood signaling can lower perceived value in intimate contexts.

They discuss research suggesting that dating profiles foregrounding past victimhood and trauma get fewer likes; for many, leading with “I was a victim” undermines claims of having transcended it, signaling weakness, potential instability, or high maintenance—even amid broader cultural praise for vulnerability.

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Woke cultural dominance may be peaking as mockery erodes its status.

Malice and Williamson note that some online rationalists feel ‘woke’ discourse is becoming less trendy; relentless satire and social costs for being associated with it can make it a low-status, try-hard identity, even as corporate pipelines continue to process and normalize its vocabulary.

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Historical atrocities show how much media silence shapes collective memory.

Malice’s work on the Holodomor and references to Pol Pot illustrate that even massive crimes against humanity can be downplayed or framed as propaganda when they don’t fit Western narratives. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Notable Quotes

Jeremy Corbyn is the tail. Joe Biden is the tail. The corporate press are the dog who are wagging that tail.

Michael Malice

There’s a giant movement insisting that everyone takes sides—the good guys or the Nazis—and a lot of people are saying, ‘Screw you, I’m not with you.’

Michael Malice

The goal of the press is not to inform, it’s to manipulate. My goal isn’t to inform, my goal is to effect social change.

Michael Malice

As COVID is receding as an excuse for cultural and social control, they need a new excuse in order to have total domination over people’s lives.

Michael Malice

This is what conservatives get wrong… The corporate press are the dog who are wagging that tail.

Michael Malice

Questions Answered in This Episode

If corporate media are actively pursuing an agenda, how can ordinary people practically diversify their information sources and detect manipulation in real time?

Michael Malice and Chris Williamson discuss how corporate media, not elected politicians, increasingly set the boundaries of public opinion and political possibility, using fear, outrage, and moral panics as tools of control. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

To what extent can new alternative platforms realistically counterbalance legacy media’s ability to set narratives, especially in crises like pandemics or wars?

Malice argues that elites cyclically adopt and discard victim groups as tools, that the working class is routinely pathologized when defiant, and that ‘woke’ corporate posturing is often more about fear and brand management than conviction. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

How should societies distinguish between legitimate public-health or security concerns and the use of fear as a tool for political or corporate control?

The conversation broadens into historical atrocities like Stalin’s Holodomor and Pol Pot’s Cambodia to show how media omissions and narrative gaps shape what societies remember or ignore. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Is there any sustainable way for governments or institutions to reduce ambient cultural anxiety without simultaneously diminishing their own power and relevance?

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

What mechanisms—legal, cultural, or technological—might help ensure that historical atrocities like the Holodomor are accurately reported and remembered, rather than filtered through contemporary political needs?

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Transcript Preview

Michael Malice

This is what conservatives get wrong. Conservatives are, think that the enemy or the Labor Party or the Democrats here, and "We're gonna kick Joe Biden out of office, or we're going to beat Jeremy Corbyn," blah, blah. That's not the issue. Jeremy Corbyn is the tail. Joe Biden is the tail. The corporate press are the dog who are wagging that tail. (wind blows)

Chris Williamson

Michael Malice, welcome to the show.

Michael Malice

Thank you so much, Chris.

Chris Williamson

How are you? Are you missing me?

Michael Malice

Enormously. I text you all the time to hurry back.

Chris Williamson

Yes. Well, I'm back this week. You'll have me this week.

Michael Malice

That's phenomenal.

Chris Williamson

Can't get rid of me. And then I'm going to see Jordan, Jordan Peterson over in San Antonio. What's San Antonio like? I've never been.

Michael Malice

It's very corporate. It's, it's, um ... It almost feels like an '80s movie 'cause there's all these tall buildings. There's one cool little river that runs through the city, which is fun to kind of, uh, the river walk, but other than that, it's very much a concrete kind of edifice. And San Antonio's a m- f- ... Much bigger population, in my understanding, than Austin-

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Michael Malice

... but there seems to be a bit of a, um, soullessness to it.

Chris Williamson

Yeah, that's kind of what I got from the outside, that it's, um, it's definitely a bigger sort of downtown area than Austin, but Austin's so distributed. We went for a walk through the burbs of Austin for two hours, and you realize-

Michael Malice

Yeah.

Chris Williamson

... it just stretches on and on and on and on.

Michael Malice

Yeah, yeah.

Chris Williamson

It's crazy. Have you been keeping up to date with the Canadian truckers protest thing?

Michael Malice

Oh, yes. Uh, uh, not as much as other people, but most certainly.

Chris Williamson

The honking will continue until freedom improves.

Michael Malice

So yeah-

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Michael Malice

... I had this, um, chapter in my book, The New Right, that says, "Meme magic is real." And I'm sure most people listening, uh, have seen on social media that, uh, you know, in the last year or more certainly, there's been this meme of clown world, where people say something that's perfectly ridiculous and they're responded to with, uh, you know, a, a green clown, clown, uh, pressing his nose, or there's another meme where it's a, a lobster claw holding a clown nose saying, "Here, you drop this." So that had been a thing, and now literally (laughs) , they're literally honking.

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Michael Malice

And there's people on Reddit having meltdowns, uh, saying like, "I can't sleep. This is terrorism."

Chris Williamson

Yep.

Michael Malice

Uh, and, and you're exactly right. The honking will continue. And th- the thing that's ... I, I've made this point several times and I'll make it again here, uh, especially with a British audience, that, um, there is a misconception by conservatives, and I mean American conservatives, I don't know about, uh, Tory conservatives in the UK, but that, you know, you know, in America especially there's different groups that th- the progressives latch onto to further their agenda. It's Muslim immigrants, it's transgender bathrooms one month, uh, or whatever, so on and so forth. And the point I always beat into their heads is, they don't really care about these groups. This is just whoever's a useful tool at the moment, and as soon as that group is defiant in any way, they're thrown into the rubbish bin as you'd say. And the best example of this is, you know, here we have the center-left parties, the Democrats obviously. There you guys have the Labor Party, but as soon as Labor starts (laughs) being defiant, all of a sudden they're Nazis. And it's just f- uh, a fascinating phenomenon to see, and I think it's just completely transparent how your measure of virtue as a, uh, an interest group is directly correlated to how useful you are to furthering a certain agenda.

Install uListen to search the full transcript and get AI-powered insights

Get Full Transcript

Get more from every podcast

AI summaries, searchable transcripts, and fact-checking. Free forever.

Add to Chrome