What Use Is The Female Orgasm? - David Puts

What Use Is The Female Orgasm? - David Puts

Modern WisdomDec 1, 20221h 18m

David Puts (guest), Chris Williamson (host), Narrator, Narrator

Evolutionary function and hypotheses of the female orgasmOxytocin, sperm transport, and fertility mechanismsFemale orgasm, mate choice, and male masculinity/dominanceMale–male competition, weapons, and sexually dimorphic traitsSex differences in spatial cognition and object-location memoryVoice pitch as a signal of dominance, status, and fighting abilityModern mating contexts (e.g., online dating) versus ancestral dynamics

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring David Puts and Chris Williamson, What Use Is The Female Orgasm? - David Puts explores evolutionary Secrets: Why Female Orgasm, Male Traits, And Voices Matter Evolutionary psychologist David Puts discusses why the female orgasm likely evolved as an adaptation in mate choice rather than a nonfunctional byproduct of male orgasm, arguing it subtly biases conception toward higher‑quality or more investing males. He presents evidence that oxytocin released around orgasm can facilitate sperm transport and that women orgasm more easily with more masculine, dominant partners. The conversation broadens into how male–male competition has shaped male bodies, brains, and voices—favoring traits that intimidate rivals more than they attract women directly. They also explore sex differences in spatial and cognitive abilities, voice modulation as a real-time status signal, and how modern environments like online dating may be changing how these evolved systems play out.

Evolutionary Secrets: Why Female Orgasm, Male Traits, And Voices Matter

Evolutionary psychologist David Puts discusses why the female orgasm likely evolved as an adaptation in mate choice rather than a nonfunctional byproduct of male orgasm, arguing it subtly biases conception toward higher‑quality or more investing males. He presents evidence that oxytocin released around orgasm can facilitate sperm transport and that women orgasm more easily with more masculine, dominant partners. The conversation broadens into how male–male competition has shaped male bodies, brains, and voices—favoring traits that intimidate rivals more than they attract women directly. They also explore sex differences in spatial and cognitive abilities, voice modulation as a real-time status signal, and how modern environments like online dating may be changing how these evolved systems play out.

Key Takeaways

Female orgasm likely functions as a selective fertility amplifier rather than a reproductive necessity.

Because many women conceive without ever orgasming and orgasm occurs only sometimes during sex, Puts argues it probably evolved to increase conception odds specifically with preferred or higher‑quality mates, not as a mandatory step in reproduction.

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Oxytocin released around orgasm can physically help move sperm toward the egg.

Experimental studies where women were given oxytocin and a semen‑like fluid showed increased transport of the fluid into the fallopian tube, especially near ovulation—supporting the idea that orgasm-related hormones can boost fertilization probability.

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Women orgasm more easily with more masculine, dominant partners, supporting a mate-choice function.

In Puts’ research with heterosexual couples, women whose male partners had more masculine faces and were rated as more dominant reported faster and more frequent orgasms, consistent with orgasm biasing reproduction toward males with putative ‘good genes’ or higher status.

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Male traits are shaped more by competition with other males than by direct female preference.

Across traits like body size, muscle mass, facial structure, canines/weapons, and especially voice pitch, the data suggest these features are better designed to intimidate or defeat rivals than to serve as pure ornaments for attracting females.

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Sex differences in cognition map onto ancestral roles in ranging, hunting, and foraging.

Men tend to outperform women on large-scale spatial tasks like mental rotation and navigation, while women excel at object-location memory; these patterns fit an evolutionary story where males ranged widely to hunt or seek mates and females specialized more in local, stationary resource tracking.

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Voice pitch is a flexible status signal that people modulate by context and self-perceived rank.

Men lower their voice when they feel more dominant than a rival and raise it when they feel subordinate; they also speak lower on topics where they feel like experts, indicating voice is actively used to signal confidence and status rather than being a fixed trait.

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Dominance can predict men’s mating success even better than women’s stated attraction ratings.

In Puts’ fraternity–sorority study, men’s peer-rated dominance predicted their number of sexual partners, while women’s ratings of those same men’s attractiveness added no extra predictive power—implying that success in male–male competition often underlies who actually gets mates.

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Notable Quotes

Every bit of evidence seems to support the hypothesis that women’s orgasm functions in choosing mates, and that it’s unlikely to be simply a byproduct.

David Puts

If orgasm were just about increasing conception, you’d expect women to have an orgasm every time they had sex—but they don’t.

David Puts

Men’s phenotypes really look like they were designed primarily to win fights or intimidate same‑sex competitors, more than to attract females.

David Puts

Before I started taking testosterone, I could masturbate. After I started taking it, I had to.

David Puts (relaying an anecdote)

Lowering pitch seems like you’re signaling status, authority, dominance… and raising it is basically saying, ‘You don’t need to worry about me.’

David Puts

Questions Answered in This Episode

If female orgasm is partly a mate-choice mechanism, how might widespread contraception and casual sex in modern societies be changing its evolutionary significance?

Evolutionary psychologist David Puts discusses why the female orgasm likely evolved as an adaptation in mate choice rather than a nonfunctional byproduct of male orgasm, arguing it subtly biases conception toward higher‑quality or more investing males. ...

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How could we design the definitive study that cleanly separates the fertility impact of orgasm from the act of intercourse itself in humans?

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To what extent can men consciously or unconsciously adjust their dominance signals (voice, posture, behavior) in modern environments like online dating where direct male–male competition is less visible?

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How might different socioecological conditions—such as war, resource scarcity, or strong institutions—shift women’s preferences between dominant versus prestigious men over time?

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Could training or hormone manipulation significantly alter sex-typical cognitive strengths (like spatial rotation or object-location memory), and would that change actual life outcomes or just test scores?

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David Puts

... why is it necessary to have an orgasm? Why would selection have favored having an orgasm sometimes and not others? Why does it happen so infrequently? We measured several variables related to the masculinity and dominance of their partner, including taking photos of the guys and measuring objectively how male typical the face was, how masculine it was or how feminine it was. Having those faces rated by unfamiliar people. We found that those things correlated pretty well and that women whose partners were more masculine, that those women took less time to have an orgasm during sex and more likely to have an orgasm.

Chris Williamson

David, I want- I wanna talk about the female orgasm. I feel like that's what everybody's come to hear us talk about. The female orgasm, a massive mystery. You've done some really, really interesting work on it. W- why does the female orgasm exist? What's the, what's the function of it?

David Puts

That's a great question. Um, and I would say, uh, it's about 10% of the research that we do in my lab, but about 90% of the interviews that I do are (laughs) about- and, you know, I guess I should start by saying we don't know. Um, eh, i- but if I had to sort of put my money on a hypothesis, it would be that it functions in mate choice, and, um, and, you know, whether- and it- that could be in a couple of ways. I mean, it could be that it functions to, um, to choose mates of high genetic quality that will make females' offspring healthier and, um, and more fit themselves, or it could be that it functions to choose, um, long-term investing partners, or it could be some of both. I mean, there's some evidence that, um, that orgasm increases the probability of conception, um, and so, you know, it makes sense then that... I mean, it could be for ei- either function. It- you know, if, if mate- if orgasm functions to choose males of high genetic quality, then it would make a special sense- especially sense that, um, it would be more likely, um, to increase the probability of fertilization, but, um, but, you know, there's also lots of evidence that when women feel closer to their partners and have an emotional connection, that orgasm is more likely as well. So, um, I could talk about some of the evidence that, you know, sort of bears on this, but, um, I guess- well, maybe I, maybe I'll stop there, or maybe (laughs) I, I could, I could actually- maybe I'll, I'll say how I got into this, um, which was I always sort of, you know, appreciated it as an interesting intellectual question, and I understood that, um, some evolutionary biologists, uh, you know, thought that it was likely an adaptation, and it makes sense that, you know, it might be. It's something that, uh, is so intimately connected to reproductive behaviors that it seems unlikely to be selectively neutral, you know, to have- ha-have been, um, irrelevant to our ancestors' reproductive success. Um, but then, you know, it's something that males are much more likely to have an orgasm when they have sex and some women have never had an orgasm, and there's not some kind of smoking gun evidence for its function, that there are plenty of other evolutionary biologists who say, no, it's, it's not an adaptation, it's just a sort of a happy coincidence, and that it's really a byproduct of selection favoring orgasm in males, that- and i- in the same way that males have nipples because of selection on females, female mammals, some female mammals, they have nipples, that selection on males to have orgasms has produced a similar trait. So- a- and, and, uh, in females. And so, you know, I appreciated that question, and then, uh, I guess about 15 years ago or so, I was asked to review a book on the topic, um, and I thought- for, for a journal, for Archives of Sexual Behavior. And I thought, okay, a great chance for me to get into the literature a little bit, read a, read a, a book that reviews the literature and, uh, and also have a publication. I was a postdoc at the time, and I- you know, the more publications, the better, I thought at the time. And, um, I- the book sort of took a strong, uh- it- ostensibly, it was, um, sort of more neutral, but I came away- y- y- it's- anyone reading the book comes away thinking that the author really supports the byproduct hypothesis, that orgasm is not functional in human females. And I came away from the book feeling that the author was more likely to be wrong, um, than when I started the book. You know, that it just seemed to me that, you know, you could pick away at any bit of evidence and say, "Well, it's an imperfect study. This doesn't show for sure." But every bit seems to support the hypothesis that, that women's orgasm functions in choosing mates, um, and that it's unlikely to be simply a byproduct, that, you know, it should be reduced, for example. But byproducts, like, men are bigger, but their nipples are smaller, because when, when selection doesn't favor a trait, um, and- it favors it in one sex and not in the other, then it tends to be vestigial or rudimentary in the sex where it's, uh, not an adaptation. And if you think about the sort of phenomenology of female orgasm, if anything, it's bigger than it is in males, less frequent, but that could be e- it makes complete sense if it's, um, functions in choosiness.

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