The Contrepreneur Formula Exposed: Behind The Scenes | Mike Winnet

The Contrepreneur Formula Exposed: Behind The Scenes | Mike Winnet

Modern WisdomAug 29, 20191h 20m

Mike Winnet (guest), Chris Williamson (host)

Mike Winnet’s background and multimillion-pound e‑learning business exitHis experiment investing ~£500k into passive-income and guru schemesDefinition and anatomy of the “Contrepreneur Formula”Manipulative tactics at seminars: NLP, fake scarcity, and plantsAudience psychology, social media backlash, and creator burnoutThe Gary Vaynerchuk meeting and Netflix documentary ambitionRussell Brunson’s copyright strike and platform power dynamics

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Mike Winnet and Chris Williamson, The Contrepreneur Formula Exposed: Behind The Scenes | Mike Winnet explores ex-entrepreneur exposes manipulative get‑rich‑quick gurus from inside out Former e‑learning entrepreneur Mike Winnet describes his project of spending his own money testing online “get rich quick” schemes, documenting the real results versus guru promises. None of the schemes have worked so far, leading him to dissect the common sales tactics used by “contrepreneurs” at seminars and online. He outlines a recurring formula of emotional manipulation, fake scarcity, fabricated testimonials, and endless upsells that targets vulnerable, often financially desperate people. The conversation also explores his legitimate business exit, the backlash and support his YouTube work has generated, and his call for ethical operators to step forward and be transparently tested.

Ex-entrepreneur exposes manipulative get‑rich‑quick gurus from inside out

Former e‑learning entrepreneur Mike Winnet describes his project of spending his own money testing online “get rich quick” schemes, documenting the real results versus guru promises. None of the schemes have worked so far, leading him to dissect the common sales tactics used by “contrepreneurs” at seminars and online. He outlines a recurring formula of emotional manipulation, fake scarcity, fabricated testimonials, and endless upsells that targets vulnerable, often financially desperate people. The conversation also explores his legitimate business exit, the backlash and support his YouTube work has generated, and his call for ethical operators to step forward and be transparently tested.

Key Takeaways

Most ‘get rich quick’ schemes enrich sellers, not buyers.

After investing nearly £500,000 into various passive-income programs (property, dropshipping, affiliate marketing, crypto, stocks), Winnet reports that none have delivered results anywhere close to the advertised outcomes, while the only clear winners are the course creators and event organizers.

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Contrepreneurs use a predictable psychological sales script.

Across multiple events, Winnet observed almost identical sequences: hypey warm-up, emotional backstory, audience hand-raising and shaming, inflated ‘normal’ prices, huge ‘today only’ discounts, fake scarcity, and choreographed rushes to the back of the room to trigger herd behavior.

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Fake authority and testimonials are central to the grift.

Gurus often establish authority via Amazon ‘bestseller’ status, staged success stories, and professional testimonial-givers who appear at multiple unrelated events; Winnet even created a blank Amazon bestseller to demonstrate how easily such signals can be gamed.

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Turning customers into competitors is a flawed business model.

Many courses teach overcrowded, non-unique tactics (e. ...

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Vulnerable and inexperienced people are deliberately targeted.

Events are designed to attract those unhappy with their jobs or finances, then isolate them from outside skepticism (“friends and family won’t understand this”), keep them in rooms without food breaks to induce decision fatigue, and sell high-ticket products even to teens and people without businesses or capital.

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Exposing tactics, not just individuals, is more powerful and safer.

Winnet intentionally avoids naming most gurus, focusing instead on educating viewers about the underlying formula so they can recognize it in any context; this both broadens impact and reduces legal risk compared with single-target exposés.

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There is space and demand for ethical, transparent operators.

Winnet argues that training and investing aren’t inherently bad; he invites genuinely successful, ethical practitioners to let him invest with them on camera and publicly share results, positioning transparency and realistic expectations as the antidote to contrepreneurship.

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Notable Quotes

A contrepreneur is someone who sells shovels to a gold rush.

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Logic would state you are turning your customers into competitors, and it’s the shittest business model ever.

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I’ve not wasted two years and £500,000 to make 30p a book.

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If this product really did work, I’d be all for it… But the stats show maybe 1% of people are successful through these courses.

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The more people that start subscribing, you get fans that love what you’re doing, but then also people that hate what you’re doing—but they still subscribe to tell you they hate what you’re doing.

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Questions Answered in This Episode

How can an average person distinguish between a tough-but-legitimate training program and a manipulative contrepreneur scheme before spending money?

Former e‑learning entrepreneur Mike Winnet describes his project of spending his own money testing online “get rich quick” schemes, documenting the real results versus guru promises. ...

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What regulatory or industry changes, if any, could realistically reduce the worst abuses in the seminar and online guru space?

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To what extent are victims responsible for their decisions, versus the responsibility borne by gurus who knowingly exploit psychological vulnerabilities?

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How might Winnet’s approach of public, transparent investing with ‘good guys’ change trust dynamics in industries like property, crypto, and affiliate marketing?

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What personal and ethical boundaries should content creators set when they become de facto whistleblowers for a large, angry audience?

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Transcript Preview

Mike Winnet

I am Mike Winnat and I am a get-rich-quick ad clicker. All those things that you see in your news feed on Facebook or Instagram, I think they are amazing. I'd love to be a millionaire in six months so I believe them all, I click them all, I invest all my own money into it. Here's everywhere I've put my money, this what happens over the next year, this is what was promised, and these are the results. And that's all I do, I put that content onto YouTube.

Chris Williamson

What's the success ratio been like?

Mike Winnet

Uh, none of them have worked so far.

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Mike Winnet

Which is weird because the only people that seem to get success from it are the people that are selling you their course to do it, which is... I mean, maybe I'm just unlucky.

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Mike Winnet

I try my best to make them work. (laughs) They just don't so far, but I still carry on winning hope. I will be a millionaire this time next year from all of these different schemes.

Chris Williamson

I am joined by Russell Brunson's best friend and the undirected king of LinkedIn, Mike Winnat. Mike, welcome to the show.

Mike Winnet

Cheers for having me on. Thank you.

Chris Williamson

It's a pleasure to have you here. Massive fan of your YouTube channel and the work that you've been doing recently. Um, a lot to talk about today, I think. A lot of the listeners will be very familiar with internet marketing and, um, get-rich-quick schemes and they'll be targeted by the ads probably on this video on YouTube. They will almost definitely be targeted by those ads. So, uh, yeah, we got a lot to delve into today. So for the listeners that don't know who you are, would you be able to explain what you've been doing on YouTube over the- the last few months?

Mike Winnet

Yes. So I am Mike Winnat and I am a get-rich-quick ad clicker. So all those things that you see in your news feed on Facebook or Instagram, I think they are amazing. I'd love to be a millionaire in six months from dropshipping or through flipping products on eBay and affiliate marketing. So I believe them all, I click them all, I invest all my own money into it, and I report my results as they are compared to what the claims made by the gurus is. And that's all I do, I put that content onto YouTube and you can see for free whether they work or they don't. That's it.

Chris Williamson

What's the suc- what's the success ratio been like?

Mike Winnet

Uh, none of them have worked so far.

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Mike Winnet

Not one. Which is weird because-

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Mike Winnet

... the only people that seem to get success from it are the people that are selling you their course to do it, which is... I mean, maybe I'm just unlucky. But I can t- I promise you, I've tried my best.

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