Why Is No One Having Sex? - Alex DatePsych

Why Is No One Having Sex? - Alex DatePsych

Modern WisdomFeb 23, 20231h 30m

Alex DatePsych (guest), Chris Williamson (host)

Gender ratios and behavior dynamics on dating apps and social mediaFear of creepiness, MeToo, and the decline of in‑person approachesRising sexlessness and extended adolescence among young adultsWomen’s educational/employment gains, hypergamy, and the ‘tall girl problem’Short‑term vs long‑term mating, sociosexuality, and promiscuous minoritiesIncel, black‑pill, red‑pill and PUA-to-incel pipeline dynamicsLong‑term relationships: libido decline, infidelity, and contempt as a predictor of divorce

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Alex DatePsych and Chris Williamson, Why Is No One Having Sex? - Alex DatePsych explores dating, Desire, And The Mating Crisis In A Post-MeToo World Chris Williamson and Alex DatePsych dissect modern dating, focusing on sexlessness, dating apps, and shifting social norms. They argue that fear of being labeled creepy, post-MeToo risk aversion, and heavy online socialization have reduced in-person approaches and casual sex, especially among young men. They examine how dating apps’ skewed gender ratios, women’s educational overachievement, and widespread pessimistic online narratives fuel incel, black-pill, and MGTOW cultures. Throughout, they emphasize that most people still pair off eventually, short‑term mating is confined to a small sociosexual minority, and contempt for the opposite sex is a major relationship killer.

Dating, Desire, And The Mating Crisis In A Post-MeToo World

Chris Williamson and Alex DatePsych dissect modern dating, focusing on sexlessness, dating apps, and shifting social norms. They argue that fear of being labeled creepy, post-MeToo risk aversion, and heavy online socialization have reduced in-person approaches and casual sex, especially among young men. They examine how dating apps’ skewed gender ratios, women’s educational overachievement, and widespread pessimistic online narratives fuel incel, black-pill, and MGTOW cultures. Throughout, they emphasize that most people still pair off eventually, short‑term mating is confined to a small sociosexual minority, and contempt for the opposite sex is a major relationship killer.

Key Takeaways

Dating apps are structurally stacked against most men due to skewed ratios.

With roughly three men for every woman on major apps, even a perfectly even matching process would leave about two‑thirds of men without a match, which helps explain why a small minority of men receive most of the visible attention without implying they’re monopolizing all sex.

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Fear of seeming creepy has overcorrected into social paralysis for many men.

About half of single men report avoiding approaching women for fear of being seen as creepy, even though women rarely classify a polite approach itself as creepy; viral gym/TikTok clips and post‑MeToo anxieties amplify this fear far beyond typical real‑world norms.

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Most people still meet offline, but growing online mediation increases risk‑aversion.

Surveys show only 10–20% of relationships start on apps and another ~20% via social media, with the rest still coming from friends, work, and school; however, heavy online interaction allows long, low‑risk courtships and fewer impulsive, alcohol‑fuelled hookups, contributing to sexlessness.

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A small, highly sociosexual minority accounts for most casual sex and STDs.

Self‑report and disease data indicate a “promiscuous ~10%” of men and women have disproportionately many partners and infections; the idea that 20% of men are sleeping with all women is not supported by the evidence, which shows most people are relatively monogamous.

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Women’s rising status shrinks their acceptable partner pool without raising ‘standards’ per se.

As women outpace men in education and income, their desire for equal-or-higher‑status partners collides with a shrinking pool of such men, creating bottlenecks—especially around age 30—even if their expectations (e. ...

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Looks matter, but men misjudge what women actually find attractive.

Men tend to overvalue extreme facial masculinity (e. ...

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Contempt and adversarial gender narratives poison relationship prospects.

Gottman’s work shows contempt is the strongest predictor of divorce; manosphere and female‑pill communities often cultivate deep contempt for the opposite sex, making it harder for members—many of whom are young and inexperienced—to form healthy, lasting relationships.

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Notable Quotes

Even if every man on a dating app got one woman, about 66% of men would still have no match just from the ratio alone.

Alex DatePsych

Approaching women politely is not one of the things that women typically find creepy.

Alex DatePsych

The problem was MeToo tried to sanitize and instead it sterilized.

Chris Williamson

It’s not the thousand men doing one creepy thing each; it’s one man doing a thousand creepy things.

Chris Williamson (paraphrasing David Buss’s framing)

How are you going to have a relationship with someone who you view negatively as some intrinsic part of them?

Alex DatePsych

Questions Answered in This Episode

If most people still pair off by their 30s, how should young men and women reinterpret scary online narratives about a ‘mating crisis’?

Chris Williamson and Alex DatePsych dissect modern dating, focusing on sexlessness, dating apps, and shifting social norms. ...

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What concrete behaviors distinguish a polite, non‑creepy approach from genuinely predatory behavior, and how can men internalize those boundaries confidently?

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Given women’s rising educational and income levels, how should both sexes adjust their mate preferences or expectations to reduce chronic singleness?

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How can individuals with low resilience around rejection deliberately build that resilience without falling into black‑pill or adversarial gender worldviews?

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What policies or cultural norms around workplaces and schools could balance safety with preserving these environments as major venues for meeting partners?

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Alex DatePsych

Something to consider about dating apps is that it's not a one-one ratio of men to women. There's about three men for every one woman. Imagine everyone on an app at any given moment just paired off one-to-one. Every man got one woman. About 66% of men would have no match, just from the ratio alone. Already the fact that there's a big, big sex disparity explains a lot of why there's this top percent of men that get most of the attention. (wind blows)

Chris Williamson

What's your background?

Alex DatePsych

So, I have an undergraduate degree in psychology. I previously was doing a master's program in research and behavior and cognition, and now I'm in a second master's program in behavioral and, uh, cognitive neuroscience. So graduate student, should be entering a PhD program pretty soon. Not the qualifications of many of your guests who are the top, top tier of, of psychologists in the world, but working on it.

Chris Williamson

Why did you get interested in attractiveness and dating psychology?

Alex DatePsych

So I think probably what first got me interested in attractiveness and dating psychology was just how important relationships have been throughout my own life, uh, throughout the trajectory of, of my life. I think they're very integral to the experiences of most people, uh, kind of a, a core part of, of life experiences that brings value to life, and that was something that was interesting. And then, in addition to that, uh, observing kind of subcultures online within the manosphere and that sort of a thing, the way that people perceive attractiveness and dating, a lot of discourse around that. So understanding those subcultures and everything also very interesting.

Chris Williamson

It's a fascinating time, man, to-

Alex DatePsych

Oh, yeah.

Chris Williamson

... consider the potential solutions that are being proposed, the challenges that everybody's facing. One of my favorite tweets that you've put out recently ... You do these fantastic tweet threads online that break down, go really, really deep into the original data, which nobody wants to look at, but apparently you do. Uh, half of single men report not approaching women out of the fear of being seen as creepy, and 82% of women reported experiencing creepy behavior sometimes, often, or constantly. And yet I saw in a different study that around 86% of women say that they want a man to make the first move. How do you square that circle?

Alex DatePsych

Well, on a practical level, if men are afraid to approach, women find a great deal of approaches creepy, how do you reconcile that? Um, men have to approach and they're gonna be rejected and they're gonna be found creepy at least some of the time, right? There's, there's no other way to reconcile that, that at sometime it's going to happen. Something that surprised me when I posted that thread and, and that research, uh, uh, a surprisingly large number of people came out and they said, "You know, you should just never approach people in public, not at the bar, not at the gym, not on the street, not at school. You should just online date. That's it. We have apps for that now." A surprisingly large number of people basically only thought that apps were the only appropriate venue now for, for meeting people. But certainly that's not how most people meet, right? Uh, a recent survey by the Kinsey Institute, by Match ... Match hires the Kinsey Institute every year to do this big poll of singles, nationally representative, uh, poll of singles, and only about, uh, 10 to 20% are actually meeting through online dating. Similarly, the Pew results from this year that were just published about a week ago for 2002, about 10% of all Americans meet online dating, about 20% of people under 30. So still most people are meeting in, in public. A great deal of those are meeting through friends, maybe about 20 to 30%. So that's the way that a lot of people are meeting. Work, school, friends are a big chunk, and then of course, online is a big one, and social media is becoming a big one as, as well now, but, you know, at the end of the day, you have to approach and people will find you creepy. Not everyone is going to like you. And what can you do? As long as you're not violating any major social norms, it's okay to be rejected.

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