DEI Wars, Trump’s Bible & The Masculinity Vote - Ryan Long

Oh, you know what else, Chris?

Yes.

Um, I've- I probably would never do this on a podcast, but I made a couple notes of things I'm gonna say.

Oh, yeah.

Because... Well, because, uh, you know, you're probably one of the most people that... You kind of remind me of, you know, some of my, like, closest friends in Homeward. It's always, like, trying to get to the bottom of something. You know what I mean? So I felt like I have a good, couple of good theories that-

Oh, I fucking love this. You came prepared.

Yeah, also... Well, I've- we've talked about this already, but I said your stuff that you post a lot of times feels very much directed for me, like I'm the exa- like, you know, I'm the one target audience.

Being seen.

Yeah.

What was the- What was one of the ones that that's happened with?

Probably the most ever is 'cause the idea that, you know, hard work, you can't always just like hard work your way out of a problem. And I think, you know, you become so accustomed to, "This is how I, you know, excel over people." And then you're like, "Well, everyone's talented at a certain level," and then also, "These problems aren't that." And then on top of that, adding creativity into that is, like, even worse, right? Because in some- s- sometimes stand up, it's like... It, it almost feels silly when I'm just like, what might be the work is like, you need to just like sit there and think (laughs) . You know?

Yep.

(laughs)

Stare at the ceiling for a while.

Yeah, and you're like, "This is crazy, right?"

Yep. Yeah.

Yeah, so... But you have to, and then you're like, "Well, how do you... Like, how do you rationalize all those things of like, I'm trying to work hard, but at the same time, this isn't a problem that just requires more work?"

I think creativity's one of these really unique domains that sits outside of like... There's very few problems in life that working harder won't make a bit better somehow.

Yeah.

But one of them-

But you've usually... A lot of times you've maxed that out, I guess.

Yeah, you're already foot to the floor, going as hard as you can.

Yeah, that's not the issue. You're not, like, lazy, right?

Yeah. So I- I've, uh, been trying to write this for ages, and I'll see if this makes sense to you. So I've been thinking about, you know type A people and type B people?

Yeah.

So people that are sort of insecure overachievers that work too hard, and then the sort of lazy people that need to get off the couch. I've been really trying to sort of work this out. So, uh, type A problems, type B problems. I think type A people have a type B problem, and type B people have a type A problem. Insecure overachievers need to learn how to chill out and relax, and lazy people need to learn how to work harder and be disciplined. Given that you subscribe to me, I'm gonna guess you're a type A person, a kind of walking anxiety disorder harnessed for productivity, as Andrew Wilkinson says. Type A people get no sympathy, because a miserable but outwardly successful person always appears to be in a much more preferential position than a type B person being lazy but on the verge of bankruptcy. Goggins and Hormozi style advice reliably makes everyone more successful in the only way that you can get judged, outwardly, but there aren't many issues in life which can't be solved by just working harder a little bit, so everyone just smashes it with a hammer. But for a certain, perhaps minority cohort of people, they actually need to hear the opposite. We need like a, a parasympathetic Goggins, a like, #RestHarderThanMe, and that's the creativity piece.