Pay Rent, Get Rich? Indian-American Built a $3.1B Startup From That Idea | Ankur Jain, Bilt
Marina Mogilko (host), Ankur Jain (guest), Marina Mogilko (host), Marina Mogilko (host)
In this episode of Silicon Valley Girl, featuring Marina Mogilko and Ankur Jain, Pay Rent, Get Rich? Indian-American Built a $3.1B Startup From That Idea | Ankur Jain, Bilt explores bilt turns rent into rewards, credit, and homeownership progress Bilt lets renters earn transferable points on rent—historically the largest monthly expense with no rewards—then redeem them for airline/hotel partners, future rent, Lyft rides, or even home down payments.
Bilt turns rent into rewards, credit, and homeownership progress
Bilt lets renters earn transferable points on rent—historically the largest monthly expense with no rewards—then redeem them for airline/hotel partners, future rent, Lyft rides, or even home down payments.
Jain describes the core challenge as a multi-sided “cold start” problem: property managers, rewards partners, and local merchants each demanded the others first, leading to years of rejection before momentum.
A key inflection point came from COVID-era shifts: property managers needed leasing demand, airlines needed younger customers, and local businesses needed at-home consumers—creating the initial flywheel.
He also details an 18-month effort in Washington, DC to help change regulations so rent payments could be reported to credit bureaus and recognized in mortgage qualification, and he shares contrarian views on venture capital, founder mindset, and why New York can be a better startup environment than Silicon Valley.
Key Takeaways
Bilt reframes rent from “dead spend” into a rewards engine.
Jain’s premise is that rent is most people’s largest monthly payment, yet traditionally earns nothing; Bilt makes “flying business class…as easy as just paying your rent” by awarding points and benefits for a routine expense.
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The product is designed to work for both corporate buildings and mom-and-pop landlords.
Bilt powers payments seamlessly in about “one in four apartment buildings,” but also allows any renter to register a home and have Bilt facilitate payment (e. ...
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Value is driven by flexible redemption, not just earning points.
Points can transfer 1:1 to major airline/hotel programs (United, Emirates, Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, etc. ...
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Points-to-dollars depends on redemption, with an estimated average value cited.
Like other ecosystems (Chase/Amex), redemption value varies by partner and use case; Jain cites an estimated “about 2. ...
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Bilt’s hardest early problem was a three-sided chicken-and-egg network effect.
Rewards partners wanted property scale, property managers wanted rewards, and merchants wanted nearby buildings; overcoming this required “two years” of repeated pitching until the first stakeholders committed and the flywheel began.
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Regulation was a product dependency, not a footnote.
To make rent build credit and support homeownership, Bilt spent “18 months in Washington DC” working with agencies, credit bureaus, and mortgage ecosystem players (including Fannie/Freddie) to get approvals so rent history could count.
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Jain argues early venture capital can misalign incentives and timelines.
He claims VC pressure tends to optimize for fast growth and markups rather than problem-solving, and notes Bilt took roughly four years from start (2018) to market launch (2022), aided first by self-funding and then “commercial partners” like real estate owners.
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Notable Quotes
“Historically you’ve gotten no rewards back… flying business class is now as easy as just paying your rent.”
— Ankur Jain
“You have this… cold-start chicken-and-egg problem.”
— Ankur Jain
“We spent 18 months in Washington DC… paying your rent is the biggest expense for this generation. Why is it not helping them move forward?”
— Ankur Jain
“What happened to solving big problems in the world?”
— Ankur Jain
“You have to be totally, totally committed and yet completely willing to change.”
— Ankur Jain
Questions Answered in This Episode
Mechanics: If my landlord only accepts checks or ACH, what exactly does Bilt send them, and how do you handle verification/disputes without landlord “consent” issues?
Bilt lets renters earn transferable points on rent—historically the largest monthly expense with no rewards—then redeem them for airline/hotel partners, future rent, Lyft rides, or even home down payments.
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Economics: If points average ~2.2¢ in value, who is funding that value—interchange, partners, property managers, merchants—and how do unit economics hold up as scale grows?
Jain describes the core challenge as a multi-sided “cold start” problem: property managers, rewards partners, and local merchants each demanded the others first, leading to years of rejection before momentum.
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Risk/controversy: What prevents rent rewards from encouraging overspending or rent inflation via incentives to property owners/manager adoption?
A key inflection point came from COVID-era shifts: property managers needed leasing demand, airlines needed younger customers, and local businesses needed at-home consumers—creating the initial flywheel.
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Regulatory deep dive: What specific rule changes or approvals in 2019 enabled rent reporting and mortgage eligibility, and what remains blocked in other housing/credit regulations?
He also details an 18-month effort in Washington, DC to help change regulations so rent payments could be reported to credit bureaus and recognized in mortgage qualification, and he shares contrarian views on venture capital, founder mindset, and why New York can be a better startup environment than Silicon Valley.
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Network effects: What was the single first “wedge” stakeholder that finally said yes (airline, property manager, or merchant), and what did you offer to break the stalemate?
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Transcript Preview
How can Bilt help me stop flying economy?
The amount of money you spend on rent every single month is astonishing. [chuckles] With Bilt, anybody can sign up, set up their home to pay their rent, and start earning rewards. You can convert those into whatever your favorite airline or hotel programs are.
You work with-
We work with British Airways and United Airlines and Alaska Airlines and Emirates and Hyatt and Hilton. I mean, people are using their Bilt points [chuckles] to cover their down payments.
Why do you think no one has done it before? [upbeat music] Ankur, thank you so much for doing this. You're-
Thanks for coming by.
Yeah, you're doing something super cool. Okay, tell me, how can Bilt help me stop flying economy? Can you explain the whole concept?
I mean, look, the amount of money you spend on rent every single month, and historically you've gotten no rewards back, is astonishing. [chuckles] Um, and so five years ago, we set out to say, "Can paying your rent for the first time now earn you airline miles, hotel points? Can it build your credit history, and can it help you get closer to homeownership?" And so, honestly, like, flying business class is now as easy as just paying your rent. [chuckles]
Okay, tell me, so does it apply to everyone? 'Cause I'm renting from a, a person, right?
Yes.
Would it work there, or it's just for corporate?
No. So you can now, with Bilt, anybody can sign up, set up their home to pay their rent, and start earning rewards. At one in four apartment buildings in the US, we now actually run all payments for these properties so that all residents automatically are using Bilt to pay their rent and earn rewards. Uh, but even if you don't live at one of the properties that uses Bilt exclusively, you can sign up, register your home, and start earning.
Does my owner, the owner of the house, has... Does he have to give consent?
The bill payer. So we have- so when we are the payers-
Uh, so you're gonna send him-
That's exactly right
... just a wire?
So when we're, uh... For the one in four apartments that use Bilt today, it's all seamless.
Mm.
Like, you move in, you see your charges, you can pay with your check, debit card, credit card, bank ACH, all automatically, and you earn rewards.
Can you tell me... So my rent is $1,700 a month.
Yep.
How much can I earn?
I mean, it depends how you pay, but if, you know, assume one X points per dollar, that's 7,800. It's expensive rent, by the way. [laughs]
I know.
7,800 points.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. [laughs] It's too cute. [laughs]
[laughs] 7,800 points, you know, a month that you can now use, and you can convert those into whatever your favorite airline or hotel programs are.
You work with all the-
All the major ones. I mean, we work with British Airways and United Airlines and Alaska Airlines and Emirates and Hyatt and Hilton and Marriott-
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