From $0 to $9M: How an Immigrant Turned Failure Into Fortune | Jenny Lei, Freja

From $0 to $9M: How an Immigrant Turned Failure Into Fortune | Jenny Lei, Freja

Silicon Valley GirlApr 28, 202531m

Marina Mogilko (host), Jenny Lei (guest)

“Fish where the fish are” (competition vs. demand)Origin story: dropshipping to D2C brandVisa pressure and urgency to build incomeLaunch failure and COVID timingPaid ads learning curve: creative vs. targetingBrand voice, newsletters, and founder-led storytellingInfluencer/PR seeding and celebrity momentsSelective creator partnerships and aestheticsAvoiding salesy tactics; minimal discountingCommunity-building: Freja Fund mentorshipFounder-as-face risks and cancellation concernsLegacy-brand mindset and long-term decision filtersProduct strategy: timeless, neutral, functional designBalancing quality, accessibility, and limited editions

In this episode of Silicon Valley Girl, featuring Marina Mogilko and Jenny Lei, From $0 to $9M: How an Immigrant Turned Failure Into Fortune | Jenny Lei, Freja explores immigrant founder scales Freja bags from failed launch to $10M+ Jenny Lei, a Chinese-born founder living in New York on a visa, started Freja after struggling to find a confident, functional, logo-free work bag for an important interview.

Immigrant founder scales Freja bags from failed launch to $10M+

Jenny Lei, a Chinese-born founder living in New York on a visa, started Freja after struggling to find a confident, functional, logo-free work bag for an important interview.

She launched right before COVID, collected 2,500 emails, and still made zero sales at launch—taking a full year to sell her first 300 bags and hitting lows like three sales in a month.

Growth came through relentless iteration on paid ads (especially functional “in-action” video creatives), later paired with better media buying/targeting support and a clearer brand voice.

As Freja matured into $10M+ annual revenue, Jenny shifted from pure acquisition toward influencer/UGC, PR seeding, newsletters, and community initiatives like the Freja Fund—aiming to build a “legacy brand” rather than just sell product.

Key Takeaways

Saturated markets can be safer than “blue oceans.”

Jenny argues you should “fish where the fish are”—high competition signals existing demand. ...

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A strong product alone won’t save a weak launch.

She spent eight months perfecting one bag, collected emails, and still got zero sales at launch. ...

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Early traction can be brutally slow—persistence is a strategy.

It took a year to sell the first 300 units and she hit months with only three sales. ...

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For performance marketing, show the product “doing the job.”

Freja’s ads worked best as simple videos showing the bag being packed and used; polished campaign images underperformed. ...

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Creative matters most, but scaling may require backend expertise.

Jenny stresses creative is “more important than targeting,” yet her ROAS improved significantly after the right media buyer optimized targeting/structure once the ad account had data.

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Avoiding “salesy” marketing can be a deliberate brand pillar.

Freja rarely discounts and frames promotions as community rewards rather than price slashing. ...

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Founder-led storytelling builds loyalty—but increases reputational risk.

After years of being anonymous, PR pushed Jenny to become the face; she worried about backlash/cancellation harming the company. ...

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PR seeding can outperform the initial celebrity bump when used strategically.

Hailey Bieber wearing the bag created validation; the larger lift came when they tied ads/queries to the moment so people searched and discovered earned media coverage.

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Community initiatives can mark the shift from survival to meaning.

With stability, Jenny launched the Freja Fund to mentor seven women founders without taking equity. ...

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A “legacy brand” frame changes decision-making without necessarily adding work.

Jenny’s team adopted a long-term lens—asking “would a legacy brand do this? ...

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Notable Quotes

“You have to fish where there are a lot of fish in the water.”

Jenny Lei

“Launch! Hey, we’re live. Not a single person bought.”

Jenny Lei

“I was a marketing company. I was not a bag brand.”

Jenny Lei

“Our customers don’t want to be sold to.”

Jenny Lei

“If you don’t tell your story, someone else will.”

Jenny Lei

Questions Answered in This Episode

What exactly was in your best-performing “packing the bag” ad—hook, structure, captions, and offer—and how did you iterate it over time?

Jenny Lei, a Chinese-born founder living in New York on a visa, started Freja after struggling to find a confident, functional, logo-free work bag for an important interview.

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You mentioned ROAS jumped when a new ads specialist “got it.” What changed in targeting/account structure (campaign types, audiences, budgets, placements) if the creative stayed the same?

She launched right before COVID, collected 2,500 emails, and still made zero sales at launch—taking a full year to sell her first 300 bags and hitting lows like three sales in a month.

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In hindsight, would you still wait to validate demand until after the product was finalized, or would you run mockup tests/preorders next time?

Growth came through relentless iteration on paid ads (especially functional “in-action” video creatives), later paired with better media buying/targeting support and a clearer brand voice.

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How did you reposition a “work bag” during COVID when fewer people were commuting—what messaging angles worked best?

As Freja matured into $10M+ annual revenue, Jenny shifted from pure acquisition toward influencer/UGC, PR seeding, newsletters, and community initiatives like the Freja Fund—aiming to build a “legacy brand” rather than just sell product.

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What criteria do you use to decide between creators for “aesthetic content” versus creators who “move product,” and how do you measure success for each?

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Transcript Preview

Marina Mogilko

now your business makes over $10 million in revenue annually.

Jenny Lei

I love New York. If I wanna stay in this country, I need to make money.

Marina Mogilko

You're from China. Did you have a U.S. passport back then?

Jenny Lei

I don't have a U.S. passport, so-

Marina Mogilko

Oh, so you were still on a visa?

Jenny Lei

So I'm also trying to sell a work bag right before COVID. Launch! Hey, we're live. Not a single person bought. [upbeat music]

Marina Mogilko

Oh, my goodness.

Jenny Lei

But now Hailey Bieber wearing one of our bags.

Marina Mogilko

And then I saw Anna Delvey wore your bag to court.

Jenny Lei

It's a part of our story now. If you don't tell your story, someone else will.

Marina Mogilko

Jenny, thank you so much for being here. I'd love to talk about your business and your journey. First of all, can you walk me through this mindset? You're in New York-

Jenny Lei

Mm-hmm

Marina Mogilko

... uh, and you have no design background, and you're like, "Let me start a brand that makes bags," and it's a-

Jenny Lei

[laughs]

Marina Mogilko

... highly saturated market. You have all the designers you can think of. What was going on in your head?

Jenny Lei

A lot of things. [chuckles] um, well, first of all, thank you so much for having me. So Freja started as my dream to design the perfect work bag for modern women.

Marina Mogilko

But why bags? Like, there are other ways to make money.

Jenny Lei

The reason why bags, um, I don't really believe in oversaturation. I think you should go fishing where there are a lot of fish in the water. Um, I think, like, trying something new and totally, like, no one- that no one else has ever done is actually a lot more risky. And then why bags is, it's, like, a twofold story. When I graduated from undergrad, same situation, I had to make money 'cause I didn't have a job, and I googled how to make money fast online, and I found dropshipping.

Marina Mogilko

You probably found all of those YouTube videos like-

Jenny Lei

I did

Marina Mogilko

... make $100.

Jenny Lei

I went to YouTube University. I did. [laughing]

Marina Mogilko

[laughing]

Jenny Lei

Um, so I was like, "Okay, this is my thing. I'm gonna try this." I made, I think, six stores, maybe got, like, one or two sales this whole time-

Marina Mogilko

Oh.

Jenny Lei

... and then my seventh store, I was dropshipping bags.

Marina Mogilko

From China, or-

Jenny Lei

From China.

Marina Mogilko

Yeah, mm-hmm.

Jenny Lei

And that worked really well, so I'm like, "Okay, I know how to sell bags. I know what kinds of bags people like. I know what colors. I know what countries. Okay." And then I kinda, like, shelved that idea. I still went back to grad school. I was like, "I should be a designer, like, I wanna..." A UX designer was what I went to grad school for. I was like, "I think this suits me. Um, I think I should still find a job." And then, I think this was halfway through grad school, I was preparing for a very important interview. This was, like, my last chance to get a job, in my head, and the night before the interview, I couldn't find a bag that I would... I could bring to this interview. Like, I wanted to walk in feeling confident. I was supposed to be there the whole day. They let me go after three people talked to me, and they're like, "Okay, you can go now." So I'm like, "Okay, I don't think I got that job." So I went to Bryant Park, and I sat there, and I thought, "Okay, um, what can I do? Like, I'm not gonna get this job. If I wanna stay in this country, I wanna- if I wanna stay, I need to make money. I need to find a job for myself. I feel like there are other women who might also experience what I experienced today, which is not having a go-to bag that they felt confident and was super functional and elevated with no, like, logos or anything like that." So I'm like, "Okay, I have an idea. I think I can make that, and I know how to sell bags, so what if I started my own bag brand?" That's how I started, and then I started sketching, um, the day I got back.

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