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Anthropic's $10B Round, Klarna's IPO, Inside a16z's 72 Deal Seed Investment Machine ft. Marc Benioff

Rory O’Driscoll is a General Partner @ Scale where he has led investments in category leaders such as Bill.com (BILL), Box (BOX), DocuSign (DOCU), and WalkMe (WKME), among others. Jason Lemkin is one of the leading SaaS investors of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat, Saleloft and more. Marc Benioff is the co-founder, Chair, and CEO of Salesforce (CRM), the cloud-software pioneer that popularized the SaaS model and leads global CRM. Under his leadership, Salesforce expanded through innovations like AppExchange and major acquisitions including Slack (WORK), Tableau (DATA), and MuleSoft (MULE), while Benioff remains a prominent philanthropist and co-owner of TIME. ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 04:21 Does Benioff Feel The Need to Buy AI Talent Like Zuck Is? 10:24 What Salesforce has Learned From Palantir on Forward Deployed Engineers? 16:25 Will SaaS apps disappear in an AI world? Why Satya is Chatting S*** 21:11 Are SDRs really screwed by AI… or just evolving? 24:57 Benioff on Who Wins: OpenAI or Anthropic? 25:58 Nat Friedman reports to Alex Wang: Genius move or career downgrade? 32:41 Anthropic’s $10B round: Have we hit peak AI hype? 49:35 Klarna’s wild ride: From $45B to $6B to IPO at $15B 58:47 Inside a16z’s seed machine: 72 bets vs Sequoia’s 27 01:01:46 Martìn Casado: Is consensus investing dangerous - or the only game? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: / harrystebbings Follow Jason Lemkin on X: / jasonlk Follow Rory O’Driscoll on X: / rodriscoll Follow Marc Benioff on X: / Benioff Follow 20VC on Instagram: / 20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: / 20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #roryodriscoll #jasonlemkin #marcbenioff #databricks #klarna #anthropic #palantir #salesforce

Marc BenioffguestHarry StebbingshostRory O’DriscollguestJason Lemkinguest
Aug 28, 20251h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released
August 28, 2025
Duration
1h 14m
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The Twenty Minute VC
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Rory O’Driscoll is a General Partner @ Scale where he has led investments in category leaders such as Bill.com (BILL), Box (BOX), DocuSign (DOCU), and WalkMe (WKME), among others. Jason Lemkin is one of the leading SaaS investors of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat, Saleloft and more. Marc Benioff is the co-founder, Chair, and CEO of Salesforce (CRM), the cloud-software pioneer that popularized the SaaS model and leads global CRM. Under his leadership, Salesforce expanded through innovations like AppExchange and major acquisitions including Slack (WORK), Tableau (DATA), and MuleSoft (MULE), while Benioff remains a prominent philanthropist and co-owner of TIME. ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 04:21 Does Benioff Feel The Need to Buy AI Talent Like Zuck Is? 10:24 What Salesforce has Learned From Palantir on Forward Deployed Engineers? 16:25 Will SaaS apps disappear in an AI world? Why Satya is Chatting S*** 21:11 Are SDRs really screwed by AI… or just evolving? 24:57 Benioff on Who Wins: OpenAI or Anthropic? 25:58 Nat Friedman reports to Alex Wang: Genius move or career downgrade? 32:41 Anthropic’s $10B round: Have we hit peak AI hype? 49:35 Klarna’s wild ride: From $45B to $6B to IPO at $15B 58:47 Inside a16z’s seed machine: 72 bets vs Sequoia’s 27 01:01:46 Martìn Casado: Is consensus investing dangerous - or the only game? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: / harrystebbings Follow Jason Lemkin on X: / jasonlk Follow Rory O’Driscoll on X: / rodriscoll Follow Marc Benioff on X: / Benioff Follow 20VC on Instagram: / 20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: / 20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #roryodriscoll #jasonlemkin #marcbenioff #databricks #klarna #anthropic #palantir #salesforce

SPEAKERS

  • Marc Benioff

    guest

    Founder and CEO of Salesforce, focused on enterprise software and applied AI.

  • Harry Stebbings

    host

    Founder and host of 20VC, interviewing and moderating conversations with venture and tech leaders.

  • Rory O’Driscoll

    guest

    Venture capitalist and investor providing market and portfolio-construction analysis.

  • Jason Lemkin

    guest

    Founder of SaaStr and early-stage SaaS investor and operator (former Adobe executive).

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Twenty Minute VC, featuring Marc Benioff and Harry Stebbings, Anthropic's $10B Round, Klarna's IPO, Inside a16z's 72 Deal Seed Investment Machine ft. Marc Benioff explores benioff debates AI hype, agentic SaaS future, and venture market dynamics Marc Benioff argues that “AGI” talk is largely hype, stressing that today’s LLMs are powerful but non-conscious tools with real accuracy and overreliance risks, including in medicine.

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