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Bastian Lehmann: How the Uber Deal Went Down and How a $2.65BN Deal Turned into $5BN | E1137

Basti Lehmann is the co-founder and former CEO of Postmates, the on-demand delivery service that raised over $900M from the likes of Tiger Global, Founders Fund, Spark Capital and Andreesen Horowitz. Following Uber’s $2.65BN acquisition in 2020, Basti founded TipTop, a platform for fast tech sales which Marc Andreesen led the $20M seed round for. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (0:00) Intro (01:39) Importance of Skill vs Luck (06:49) Impact of Parents’ Divorce (07:57) Source of Grit & Ambition (09:25) Leading Postmates in Wartime Mode (14:42) Importance of VC Brand & Leading Rounds (15:38) Negotiating the Uber Acquisition (18:55) Lessons on Getting Acquired (22:25) Dara Khosrowshahi as a Non-Founder CEO (25:02) Postmates Brand & Acquisition (26:30) Starting a Second Company (28:49) Selecting VCs & Raising Money (34:02) Starting a Company with Financial Security (39:30) VC & Value Add (45:48) Running Board Meetings (48:11) Hot Takes on Inference Computers (52:31) Future of Phones & Vision Pro (56:24) Future of AI & Startups vs. Incumbents (01:03:58) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Basti Lehmann We Discuss: 1. From US Immigrant to Billion Dollar Founder: How did Basti start his career hacking AT&T? How did early hardships shape Basti’s work ethic? What were Basti’s biggest challenges building Postmates? 2. Lessons from Raising $900M: How did Basti raise $20M from Marc Andreesen? How does Basti select which VCs to work with? Why does Basti think 99% of VCs are sheep? Why does Basti think great VCs add no value? Why does Basti think having to educate investors is a massive red flag? 3. Selling Postmates for $2.65BN: Why did Basti sell Postmates to Uber? How did the acquisition happen? Was there anything Basti would have done differently? What does Basti think makes Dara Khosrowshahi a great CEO? What is Basti’s biggest advice to founders on acquisitions? 4. Future of AI: Startups or Incumbents? What does Basti think is the biggest challenge of LLMs today? Why does Basti think inference computing will be the future of AI? Why does Basti think incumbents can be replaced? Why does Basti think the biggest companies are being born today? ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Bastian Lehmann on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Basti Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #bastianlehmann #postmates #uber #ceo #founder #venturecapital #businesstips #investing #businessstrategy #publicmarket #darakhosrowshahi #apple

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Apr 7, 20241h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

From Hacking Dial-Up to Postmates’ $5B Uber Deal and Beyond

  1. Bastian Lehmann recounts his journey from a modest childhood in Germany, early computer obsession, and grit shaped by his mother’s sacrifices to founding and scaling Postmates over a decade of “wartime” competition.
  2. He details Postmates’ path through brutal fundraising, intense capital battles with DoorDash and Uber, and ultimately negotiating a strategically structured, no‑collar acquisition by Uber that grew from $2.65B to nearly $5B as Uber’s stock rose.
  3. Lehmann shares nuanced views on venture capital—why most VCs are “sheep,” how to choose investors, and why great VCs accept they can’t change outcomes—along with practical lessons on board management and founder endurance.
  4. He also discusses his second company TipTop, the advantages and mindset shifts of being a wealthy repeat founder, and offers contrarian takes on AI, personal inference hardware, the future of phones, Big Tech incumbents, and OpenAI’s role.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Relentless persistence beats timing and capital in most startup outcomes.

Lehmann argues most companies fail because founders give up; Postmates survived a decade of brutal competition and funding gaps fundamentally through refusal to quit and deep team loyalty.

In hyper‑competitive markets, large funding rounds make sense only after unit economics are proven.

He notes that once Postmates and peers had clear paths to profitability and scalable unit economics, capital became primarily a weapon for customer acquisition and share capture, justifying aggressive fundraising.

Acquisition structure can matter more than headline price.

By negotiating no breakup provisions and no collar on Uber’s stock, Postmates turned an announced $2.65B deal into nearly $5B as Uber’s share price rose, creating a far better outcome for shareholders.

Choose investors who already believe; don’t burn cycles “educating” skeptics.

Lehmann advises that if you must repeatedly convince a VC about your space or drill endlessly into unit economics, they’re likely benchmarking you against competitors and will be painful board members later.

Great VCs are humble about their ability to influence company outcomes.

He praises investors who see writing the check and staying out of the way as their main value, emphasizing that operators—not board members—ultimately determine success.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Most companies fail because the founders give up, and we refused to give up.

Bastian Lehmann

We negotiated the deal so well, there was no collar on the deal. By the time the deal closed, it was almost $5 billion.

Bastian Lehmann

A good signal can’t save a bad company.

Bastian Lehmann

The greatest VCs that I have met are the people that know there is very little you can do to actually move the needle other than writing the check.

Bastian Lehmann

Not developing AI fast enough is what will kill us, not the other way around.

Bastian Lehmann

Bastian’s early life, family background, and formative experiences with computersBuilding Postmates: wartime culture, competition, and fundraising challengesStrategic dynamics and negotiation of the Uber–Postmates acquisitionPhilosophy on venture capital, investor selection, and board managementLife after exit: becoming a second‑time founder and launching TipTopViews on AI: personal inference hardware, cost structure, and killer appsIncumbents vs. startups in the AI era, plus hot takes on Apple, phones, and OpenAI

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