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Erik Allebest: Scaling to $100M Revenue, 150M Members and 700 People, All with No Vc Funding | E1113

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Erik AllebestguestHarry Stebbingshost
Feb 6, 20241h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Bootstrapping Chess.com: Mission-Driven Growth to $100M Without VC

  1. Erik Allebest, co-founder and CEO of Chess.com, explains how he built a $100M+ revenue, 150M-member chess platform with 700 people and essentially no traditional venture funding.
  2. He attributes success to a clear mission of serving the chess community, a relentless focus on content and product over paid acquisition, and a fully-remote, globally distributed team hired for passion over pay.
  3. The conversation covers his personal evolution through business school and ayahuasca, his philosophy on money, capitalism, parenting, marriage, and self-worth, and how serendipitous cultural moments like The Queen’s Gambit and COVID accelerated growth.
  4. Allebest also discusses refusing typical investor preferences, structuring secondary liquidity to reward employees, and his nuanced views on politics, leadership, and building a humane, mission-led company at scale.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Bootstrapping forced discipline, early monetization, and creative problem-solving.

Because Chess.com couldn’t raise capital for years, they avoided burn-heavy playbooks, focused on immediate revenue (learning tools behind a paywall), hired globally, and ran fully remote with no office—choices Erik now sees as major advantages.

Content and community can replace paid acquisition at massive scale.

Instead of performance ads, Chess.com invested in evergreen chess content, SEO, and creators on YouTube, Twitch, and later shorts/TikTok, capturing demand wherever people consumed chess and letting quality content drive organic growth.

Product innovations that create early wins dramatically boost engagement and retention.

Features like Puzzle Rush—designed to make users feel successful quickly—were “needle-moving,” increasing enjoyment and stickiness, and data shows users who win their first game are 2–3x more likely to stay.

A strong mission and lifestyle-first employment model underpin Chess.com’s culture.

The company screens out people who optimize purely for money, emphasizes mission (“serve the chess community” and “best place to work”), gives employees autonomy via remote work, and expects egos and politics to bow to that mission.

Chess.com is only selectively metrics-driven, prioritizing mission and feel over dashboards.

For years they steered by gut, community feedback, and joy of creation rather than OKRs; only more recently have they adopted metrics like DAU, habit-based retention (Duolingo-style CUR), and conversion from players to learners.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The weight of our mission crushes egos. If you have an ego, this is the wrong place for you.

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We did the opposite of Silicon Valley. We thought about monetizing immediately. Everybody was remote. There was no office.

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Raising money feels a lot like earning money. It’s a self‑validation.

Erik Allebest

I am every day microdosing on Slack, on email, on Zoom. I am under the influence of drugs every single day and every single moment of my life.

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I have so few regrets in life, but selling that first 10% is one.

Erik Allebest

Founding Chess.com and evolving from teaching/e‑commerce to community and gameplayBootstrapping, failed fundraising attempts, and deliberate avoidance of venture capitalContent-led, non-paid growth strategy across SEO, YouTube, Twitch, and short-form videoMission-driven culture, remote work from day one, and global hiring philosophyMetrics, monetization, retention, and the learner vs. player business modelPersonal growth: MBA, feedback, ayahuasca, self-worth, and relationship habitsViews on capitalism, investor relationships, political stances, and sharing upside with employees

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