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Sam Corcos: Why Founders Should Take as Many VC Meetings as Possible | E1093

Every single 20VC episode is recorded with Riverside.FM. It is the one product that I could not live without. Try it today here (https://creators.riverside.fm/20VC) and use the code 20VC for 15% off. ----------------------------------------------- Sam Corcos is the Co-Founder & CEO @ Levels, the company helping you see how food affects your health with data from biosensors like continuous glucose monitors (CGMs). To date, Sam has raised over $89M for Levels from the likes of a16z (Jeff Jordan sits on his board), Founder Collective, Breyer Capital and Shrug Capital to name a few. Prior to Levels, Sam founded two prior companies, CarDash; a Y Combinator company that makes automotive repair and maintenance convenient. Before Cardash, Sam founded, Sightline Maps, an intuitive platform for 3D printing and visualizing topographical maps, marketed primarily towards the U.S. military. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: (0:00) Intro (00:46) Early Passions and Formative Experiences (01:23) Resilience Lessons from Overcoming Homelessness (04:05) Advantages of Unplanned Actions in Business (07:17) Evolution of Risk-Taking with Time (08:07) Recognizing the Role of Luck in Success (09:13) Gleaning Insights from Previous Ventures (12:12) Decision-Making: Staying or Leaving a Company (12:38) Journey from Technical Co-Founder to CEO (13:41) Celebrating Success in Business (14:55) Building a Culture of Transparency and Trust (20:35) Managing Quality and Rebuilding Trust (27:07) Pattern Formation for Recurring Success (30:38) Strategy for Effective Fundraising Meetings (37:23) Sales Pipeline Management and Accountability (44:19) Navigating Investment Meetings and Associate Relations (01:15:55) Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Sam Corcos: 1. The Founding Moment: What was the a-ha moment for Sam with the founding Levels? What were the big mistakes Sam made with prior companies that he did not take with him to Levels? What does Sam know now that he wishes he had known when he started Levels? 2. How to Fundraise Like a Pro: Why does Sam believe that founders should take as many meetings with VCs as possible? What are the biggest mistakes founders make when meeting investors? Should founders meet with associates in the fundraising process? What does Sam mean when he says, “you have to create theater” when pitching? 3. How to Extract the Most Value from Your Investors: What have been Sam’s biggest lessons on how to put your investors to work? What is the right and most strategic way to ask investors for specific help? How can founders create a competitive environment where VCs are competing to help? Which investors have been the most helpful? Why are post-IPO operators the best angels to have as investors? How has the a16z platform team been such a needle mover? 4. How to Find Your Partner and Master Parenting: What does Sam mean when he says he had a “one pager” in what he wanted in a partner? What was in the one-pager? How did dates respond? What are the biggest mistakes people make when dating? What is Sam most nervous about on becoming a parent? How does Sam think having a child will impact his marriage? ----------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Sam Corcos on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SamCorcos Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #VentureCapital #SamCorcos #Levels #harrystebbings

Harry StebbingshostSam Corcosguest
Dec 11, 20231h 19mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:47

    VCs adding vs detracting value: founders as prophets, not missionaries

    Harry opens by challenging Sam on whether most VCs detract value. Sam frames fundraising as finding believers in your vision (a “prophet” mindset), and hints at a core mistake: treating investor access as scarce and fragile.

    • Fundraising is about finding aligned believers, not converting skeptics
    • Founders overvalue “precious” investor contacts early on
    • Sets up the episode’s theme: take more meetings, learn faster
  2. 0:47 – 1:33

    Early curiosity and family expectations: science ambitions and upbringing

    Sam shares that his earliest career aspiration was being a research scientist, driven by fascination with biology and oncology. The conversation touches on parental expectations and how early identity shapes later ambition.

    • Early desire to be a scientist (biology/oncology focus)
    • Cultural/parental expectations around prestigious careers
    • How early motivations foreshadow later intensity and curiosity
  3. 1:33 – 3:24

    A period without a home base: the Vinay-in-the-park story and resilience

    Sam recounts arriving in New York without a place to stay and serendipitously running into Vinay, who offered a spare bedroom. The story becomes a lens on comfort with uncertainty and a belief that things will work out.

    • Operating without a fixed plan or “home base”
    • Serendipity as a repeated pattern in Sam’s life
    • Mindset shift: trusting outcomes instead of over-planning
  4. 3:24 – 5:19

    Planning vs spontaneity: what are you actually optimizing for?

    Harry pushes on the tension between Sam’s optimization mindset and his preference for spontaneity. Sam argues the right level of planning depends on what you’re optimizing for—efficient itinerary execution vs open-ended discovery.

    • Over-planning is often a response to stress and ambiguity
    • Optimization requires defining the objective (efficiency vs novelty)
    • Making room for unplanned experiences can be the “optimal” choice
  5. 5:19 – 8:08

    Risk tolerance evolves: why perceived risk is often exaggerated

    They explore whether Sam is risk-seeking and how that has changed over time. Sam argues many “risky” actions are statistically far safer than people assume, and media narratives distort perceived danger.

    • Risk tolerance can increase with experience and perspective
    • Downside of many founder risks is embarrassment, not catastrophe
    • Media and vivid anecdotes skew risk perception (availability bias)
  6. 8:08 – 12:38

    Luck, preparation, and lessons from past ventures

    Sam describes luck as preparation meeting opportunity, while acknowledging randomness. He then reflects on prior company lessons—building conviction in his own technical judgment and the importance of true alignment with a CEO’s direction.

    • Luck is partially controllable through preparation and awareness
    • Dunning–Kruger dynamics: confidence vs actual competence
    • Disagree-and-commit has limits; if you can’t commit, you may need to leave
  7. 12:38 – 14:45

    From technical co-founder to CEO: missing feedback loops and celebrating wins

    Sam explains the disorientation of moving from shipping code to being CEO, where impact is diffuse and hard to attribute. He argues celebrating wins is essential to morale and sustained performance, even for ambitious teams.

    • CEO work has fewer direct deliverables and clearer feedback loops
    • Leadership impact is broad but hard to point to as “my output”
    • Celebrating progress fuels motivation; constant failure narratives demoralize
  8. 14:45 – 20:10

    Radical transparency at Levels: titles, shared 1:1s, and the keeper test

    Sam outlines Levels’ unusual transparency model: public investor updates, shared internal meetings, and deprioritized titles. He defends transparency with guardrails (opt-out when needed) and explains how the Netflix “keeper test” drives performance conversations.

    • Titles as compensation and why Levels limits them
    • Transparency-by-default with opt-out for sensitive moments
    • Keeper test as a practical tool for retention, performance, and honesty
  9. 20:10 – 26:32

    Quality at scale and rebuilding trust: when transparency is the fix, not the risk

    Harry questions whether an all–A-player bar can survive scaling and whether trust can be regained after missteps. Sam shares how partial transparency created distrust, and how increasing transparency later helped rebuild credibility and reduce rumor-driven dynamics.

    • Talent bar can dip when roles become “commodity” at scale
    • Trust can be rebuilt, but it’s hard and uncommon
    • Partial transparency can backfire; selective secrecy breeds suspicion
  10. 26:32 – 29:01

    Product retention and habit formation: accountability beats one-time insights

    The discussion shifts to Levels’ retention challenge and why recurring behavior change is difficult. Sam emphasizes accountability and goal-setting as key drivers of long-term retention, with cohort-based financial commitment mechanisms as one approach.

    • Levels retention reality vs target (acknowledging constraints)
    • Users stay longer for accountability, not just informational learnings
    • Loss aversion and commitment devices can improve follow-through
  11. 29:01 – 32:14

    Fundraising strategy: cast a wide net, show progress, and treat raises as a trend line

    Sam lays out his core fundraising advice: take many meetings early and don’t treat each pitch as a one-shot event. He argues investors respond to demonstrated progress over time—“lines, not dots”—and founders should learn quickly through repetition and feedback.

    • Take as many investor meetings as possible; don’t hoard contacts
    • Progress over time can convert skeptics into believers
    • Serial founders benefit from accumulated relationships and pitching reps
  12. 32:14 – 39:05

    Extracting value from investors: operationalizing ‘asks’ and making it easy to help

    Sam explains why founders often fail to benefit from investors: they don’t know what they need, and they don’t make requests actionable. He shares a tactical system—an “Asks” section in updates, specificity, time-bounding, and doing upfront work to raise conversion rates.

    • Investors can’t read minds; founders must be proactive
    • High-leverage asks are specific, targeted, and quick to execute
    • Structured investor updates + shared docs can drive real conversion
  13. 39:05 – 48:30

    Who’s actually engaged: platforms, pre-reads, associates, and meeting quality signals

    Sam contrasts firms and individuals who do the work (reading materials, giving thoughtful feedback) with those who don’t. He praises a16z’s operating platform discoverability, notes variability in associate/principal influence, and reframes pre-reading as an efficient filter to get to ‘no’ faster.

    • Engagement signal: who reads the materials and comes prepared
    • Platform teams work when services are discoverable and staffed deeply
    • Sending info ahead can filter out misaligned investors and save founder time
    • Associates/principals can help—but firm structure often limits impact
  14. 48:30 – 54:44

    Theater and diligence: engineering great investor meetings and avoiding deadweight

    Sam tells the Moshe Lifschutz “green juice glucose spike” pitch story and argues experimentation and ‘theater’ can be decisive for visionary pitches. He also explains why some investors never add value, how to measure it, and when diligence is worth the time (especially for board roles).

    • A memorable demo can crystallize the value proposition instantly
    • Run many pitch variants to discover what consistently lands
    • Track investor value-add like a funnel (requests, conversions, hit rate)
    • Board-member diligence should be as serious as choosing a life partner
  15. 54:44 – 1:05:16

    High performance and intentional time: audits, calendar-as-todo, and buffering reality

    Sam defines high performance as setting objectives and reliably delivering, while warning about setting the wrong goals. He shares tactical time-management practices—time tracking, using the calendar as the to-do list, and building buffer space to prevent cascading schedule failure—plus how parenting pressures can force better scheduling discipline.

    • High performance = calling the shot and delivering (on the right goals)
    • Start with measurement: track where time actually goes
    • Calendar-as-todo creates realism about capacity and commitments
    • Buffers prevent small disruptions from derailing weeks of plans
  16. 1:05:16 – 1:09:31

    Intentional relationships: partner selection as matching, not selling

    Sam applies his “intentionality” philosophy to dating—clarifying values, deal-breakers, and time horizons. He describes using a one-page list early to quickly determine fit, arguing this saves time and reduces the temptation to ‘sell’ oneself into mismatched relationships.

    • Write down values and deal-breakers; compress them into a usable artifact
    • Treat dating as a matching problem, not a persuasion exercise
    • Radical clarity early can end bad fits quickly and respectfully
    • Open-mindedness as a core criterion (comfort with diverse viewpoints)
  17. 1:09:31 – 1:15:55

    Co-founder dynamics and conflict: diligence, clarity on CEO role, and fast repair

    Sam highlights common co-founder mistakes: insufficient diligence and unclear expectations about authority and roles. He describes a real example of identifying resentment early, addressing it directly, and resolving misinterpretation—while acknowledging timing matters more than instant confrontation.

    • Co-founder selection deserves deep diligence; reputational risk is real
    • Set expectations early about CEO authority and decision rights
    • Surface negative emotions early before they compound over months/years
    • Vulnerability and direct communication are critical to fast conflict repair
  18. 1:15:55 – 1:19:52

    Quick-fire: tech obsessions, hiring lessons, societal concerns, and personal goals

    In rapid Q&A, Sam shares what he’s consuming, what he struggles with, and what he believes he’s learned about building teams. He also names broader worries (the ‘epistemic commons’), reflects on organizational design, and shares a five-year personal and mission-focused outlook.

    • Current interests: deep technical content and UI constraints in React Native
    • Core operating lesson: hiring right (and wrong) changes trajectory
    • Concern: erosion of shared truth and sensemaking
    • Intentionality as a defining theme; goals for family and Levels’ impact

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