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Jake Paul on Going From YouTube to Boxing to Investing | a16z ft. Anti Fund

Jake Paul and Geoff Woo join the podcast to announce Anti Fund’s new $100 million growth fund and discuss the evolution of their investment strategy. The conversation covers the fund’s portfolio, including investments in companies such as SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic, Anduril, Cognition, Etched, and Modal, as well as the lessons they’ve learned backing founders and identifying emerging technologies. They discuss founder psychology, resilience, ambition, and why they believe attention, culture, and distribution are becoming increasingly important advantages in the AI era. Along the way, Jake reflects on his path from creator to entrepreneur, athlete, and investor, while Geoff shares his views on venture capital, technology, and how AI is reshaping opportunity for founders and builders. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro: announcing the $100M growth fund 01:20 - The portfolio and how Jake & Geoff became partners 13:41 - Resilience, therapy, and childhood trauma 17:05 - Attention, looksmaxxing vs AI-maxxing, and advice for 2026 25:09 - The creator game: YouTube, MrBeast, and lasting power 34:13 - Press, controversy, and streamer culture 44:43 - Faith, conviction, and getting into politics 54:09 - Education, college, and collecting "badges" 1:00:05 - Founder taste, investing, and what's next Resources: Follow Jake Paul on X: https://x.com/jakepaul Follow Geoff Woo on X: https://x.com/geoffreywoo Stay Updated: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Find a16z on X: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg This material is solely for educational purposes and is not investment advice or an offer of investment advisory services. This material should not be used as the basis for an investment decision. a16z is an investor in SpaceX and Cursor through its managed funds, and thus has a financial interest in the company's performance and future prospects. In particular, a16z benefits if the company grows in value; and a16z funds will receive any customary dividend payments in connection with their status as a shareholder of the company. However, a16z is not being compensated by SpaceX or Cursor for this material. Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see http://a16z.com/disclosures.

Jake PaulguestErik TorenberghostGeoff Wooguest
Jun 22, 20261h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:45

    Announcing the $100M oversubscribed Anti Fund growth fund + tier-one holdings

    Jake Paul and Geoff Woo open by officially announcing their $100M oversubscribed growth fund under Anti Fund. They quickly name-check several headline investments and frame the fund’s ambition and positioning.

    • Official $100M growth fund announcement
    • Oversubscription and credibility signaling via marquee names
    • Examples of portfolio companies (e.g., Anduril, SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic, etc.)
    • Setting the tone: creators + capital + cultural influence
  2. 1:45 – 5:12

    Why Jake & Geoff work as partners: complementary superpowers and shared ambition

    Erik digs into what makes Jake and Geoff effective partners. Geoff describes Jake as an entrepreneur and cultural tastemaker; Jake highlights Geoff’s intelligence, networks, and judgment.

    • Geoff’s view: Jake as entrepreneur, tastemaker, cultural leader
    • Jake’s view: Geoff’s IQ/EQ, work ethic, and network depth
    • Complementarity: entertainment/attention + technical/capital fluency
    • Early validation via judgment calls and long-term thinking
  3. 5:12 – 6:30

    Jake’s playbook: analytical entrepreneurship, doubling down on what works, pivoting fast

    Jake explains how he retroactively makes sense of his multi-hyphenate path—creator, boxer, investor—through an entrepreneurial lens. He emphasizes relentless professionalism, networking, and following the numbers.

    • Entrepreneur-first mindset across media, sports, investing
    • Double/triple down when things work; drop what doesn’t
    • Network-building and non-transactional long-term reciprocity
    • Professionalism as a differentiator in entertainment
  4. 6:30 – 7:57

    From “one boxing experiment” to going all-in: using signals to choose the next arena

    Jake recounts how boxing started as a trial but quickly proved massive via audience and revenue signals. After the first fight’s scale, he committed to becoming a world champion and leveraged boxing as both sport and content engine.

    • Boxing began as an experiment, became a pivot
    • Metrics mattered: PPV buys, ticket sales, press conference views
    • Commitment shift: deciding to go all-in and chase world champion status
    • Following numbers helped drive earnings and momentum
  5. 7:57 – 12:42

    Why tech investing: early Silicon Valley exposure and scaling up with Anti Fund

    Jake shares that tech and startups were an early interest, sparked by visits to Silicon Valley as a teenager. Meeting Geoff later enabled a bigger, more systematic push into venture/growth investing and “shaping the future.”

    • Early fascination with startups, founders, and VC culture
    • Building VC literacy and networks from a young age
    • Meeting Geoff as the catalyst to ‘go bigger’
    • Investing framed as impact on America’s future
  6. 12:42 – 16:01

    Resilience, pain tolerance, and therapy: handling hate, pressure, and childhood dynamics

    The conversation turns to resilience—how Jake developed a thick skin through early hate and family intensity. Jake also discusses therapy carefully, favoring self-understanding and childhood-trauma work without getting trapped in negative loops.

    • Context switching and pain tolerance as investable traits
    • Jake’s early experience with hate (school/community) as conditioning
    • Self-knowledge as defense against critics and comments
    • Therapy: useful for unpacking patterns, but avoid perpetual victim loops
  7. 16:01 – 19:01

    Geoff’s career through-lines: systems thinking, compounding, and attention as a scarce lever

    Geoff explains his worldview as an engineer studying underlying systems—people, companies, society. He connects this to investing: capital scales similarly at different magnitudes, and attention becomes a decisive scarce resource in an over-capitalized world.

    • Engineer/scientist lens: ‘rules of reality’ and systems
    • Compounding: fewer bets that scale, conviction investing
    • Capital as a civilization lever; attention as increasingly scarce
    • Anti Fund’s edge: combining capital with cultural attention
  8. 19:01 – 23:45

    Looksmaxxing vs AI-maxxing: what matters in an AGI-shaped future + 2026 advice

    Geoff outlines a provocative framework: as intelligence becomes commoditized via compute, differentiation shifts to charisma/vibes and skill at wielding AI. They discuss how a 22-year-old in 2026 should build technical depth and join ambitious teams.

    • If intelligence is metered by compute, relationship/vibe matters more
    • Looksmaxxing expanded: charisma, vibe, social leverage
    • AI-maxxing: deepen math/CS to wield models effectively
    • Career advice: team up with the smartest, most ambitious people; startup vs joining labs
  9. 23:45 – 32:26

    The creator game: why early dominance mattered, what made Jake’s content novel, and durability

    Jake argues that breaking out on social platforms is harder now and that durable winners are rare. He explains his original edge—daily reality-show style vlogging, relentless output, diversification across formats—and why many creators fade over time.

    • Timing advantage: ‘had to be there early’ to reach the top tier
    • Novelty + entertainment + daily output as early growth engine
    • Iterate across formats (music, comedy, fear, sports)
    • Durability factors: resilience, love of the craft, platform adaptation, diversification
  10. 32:26 – 34:53

    Monetization and focus: choosing high-leverage opportunities and avoiding distractions

    Jake explains how he evaluates opportunities like acting: time cost, expected return, team quality, and downside risk. He emphasizes staying anchored to ‘bread and butter’ (boxing/content) and only taking large, measurable opportunities.

    • Decision filters: time, money, people involved, probability of success
    • Downside risk: public flops can be costly
    • Focus: don’t drift from core engines that compound
    • Instinct plus process: strategy huddles, selective posting, measured execution
  11. 34:53 – 43:12

    Press, controversy, and streamer culture: anti-fragility, attention loops, and platform limits

    They debate whether all press is good press, with Jake noting it depends on the person’s anti-fragility. They use ‘Clavicular’ and streamer culture as examples of novelty, controversy, and escalating attention tactics—while acknowledging societal downsides and platform constraints.

    • Not all press is good press—unless you’re built for it
    • Rule of risk: avoid fatal risks (death, jail) while taking calculated bets
    • Clavicular as case study: novelty, authenticity, controversy-driven growth loops
    • Streamer culture: escalation pressures, societal impact, and emerging platform ‘edginess’ tiers
  12. 43:12 – 55:31

    Faith, conviction, and politics: why step into it, and what issues matter most

    Jake describes faith as central to surviving cancellation-level moments and frames hardship as growth. He explains why he’s increasingly willing to speak politically, considers future candidacy, and emphasizes education reform and financial literacy as key priorities.

    • Faith/God as a resilience framework; adversity as preparation
    • Politics as leadership and civic responsibility despite business risk
    • Potential future run: only if he’s the ‘best person’ to help the country
    • Top issues: education reform, practical finance/taxes literacy, investing access (e.g., ‘Trump/Invest America accounts’)
  13. 55:31 – 58:39

    Education, college, and ‘badge collecting’: signaling vs learning + Jake’s Stanford/NFL idea

    Geoff argues the education system will change, but the ‘badging’/signaling system will remain important—especially for people without other standout credentials. Jake riffs on seriously considering Stanford, partly as a path toward an NFL try (slot receiver) post-boxing.

    • College as badge/signal when you don’t already have world-class proof
    • Encouragement to be best-in-world at something; badges build confidence
    • Jake’s Stanford visit sparks real consideration of attending
    • Jake’s post-boxing aspiration: college football as a bridge to NFL
  14. 58:39 – 1:04:18

    Founder taste, diligence, and what’s next: reps, reference checks, and incubation opportunities

    To close, Geoff defines ‘founder taste’ as pattern recognition built through massive reps and hard-earned scar tissue. They describe diligence via trusted reference checks and discuss potentially founding/incubating new companies amid rapid AI-platform risk.

    • Founder taste = reps + people-reading + resilience/IQ assessment
    • Key traits: world-class drive + toughness to endure setbacks
    • Diligence tactics: network-driven reference checks (e.g., domain experts)
    • Future plans: more incubation/founding, but mindful of AI fast-follow replication risk

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