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The Software Crisis Behind America's Infrastructure

Today’s critical infrastructure—air traffic, logistics, defense—is powered by legacy software. And that’s a problem. In this episode, recorded live at the a16z American Dynamism Summit, a16z partner Leila Hay sits down with Phillip Buckendorf, CEO of Air Space Intelligence, and Lt. Gen. Leonard J. Kosinski (Ret.), ASI’s Chief Strategy Officer and former Director for Logistics of the Joint Staff for the Pentagon. They explore why software is now a weapon system, how dual-use tech can harden both civilian and military infrastructure, and what happens if we don’t modernize fast enough. Timecodes: 00:00: The Urgency of Modernizing Software 00:45: Founding ASI and the State of Software in Logistics 07:08: Challenges in the Aviation Industry 11:00: The Philosophy Problem in Software Modernization 17:22: Proven Software Solutions for Modernization 19:57: Expanding into Contested Logistics 20:25: Understanding Contested Logistics 21:08: Military Perspective on Logistics Vulnerabilities 21:55: Logistics as a Competitive Advantage 25:51: Dual-Use Capabilities in Logistics 30:00: Modernizing DoD Logistics 36:07: The Future of AI in Logistics 38:59: Risks of Not Modernizing Logistics Resources: Find Phillip on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillipbuckendorf/?locale=en_US Find Lieutenant General Leonard J Kosinsk on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljkosinski/ Find Leila on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leilahay/ Stay Updated: Let us know what you think: https://ratethispodcast.com/a16z Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/ Follow our host: https://twitter.com/stephsmithio Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.

Phillip BuckendorfguestLeonard J. KosinskiguestLeila Hayhost
Apr 28, 202543mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Outdated Software Threatens Aviation and Military Logistics, ASI Leaders Argue Modernization Is Urgent

  1. Buckendorf says aviation faces interconnected staffing, legacy software and infrastructure problems that are fundamentally software problems, and he blames a broken philosophy of how software is built and procured.
  2. Both speakers argue that modernization should buy proven commercial software rather than spend a decade and hundreds of millions on custom development from 1,000-page requirements.
  3. Kosinski explains contested logistics as a weapon system and competitive advantage, noting that adversaries target supply chain vulnerabilities and that logistics has long been treated as a cost center.
  4. Buckendorf makes the case for dual-use logistics software shared across commercial, government and allied sectors, so collaboration is already in place before a crisis hits.
  5. Both stress that predictive, AI-enabled software and a sense of urgency are needed to reroute disrupted supply chains, deter adversaries and avoid falling behind, citing examples like the Suez Canal and Colonial Pipeline.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Aviation's staffing, software and infrastructure problems are interconnected

Buckendorf argues better software speeds training, boosts productivity and can support higher pay, so staffing and infrastructure are fundamentally software problems that can't be solved in silos.

The software procurement model is broken

Buckendorf describes years of documentation, a decade of custom development, and then software that is outdated on arrival, while top engineers avoid such environments.

Buy proven commercial software instead of building from scratch

Buckendorf says software already deployed with airlines can be bought and used with few modifications, which is faster and safer, and it let ASI deploy with the Air Force within months.

Logistics is a weapon system, not just a cost

Kosinski says advanced weapons are ineffective if they can't be supplied and sustained, and just-in-time logistics isn't in time if the part can't arrive; Buckendorf adds that without delivery, equipment effectively doesn't exist.

Dual-use is especially fitting for logistics

Buckendorf notes that military capacity relies on commercial ports and transport, and running similar software on both sides lets sectors share data in a crisis; he also warns the Chinese give away port software.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You can build the most advanced equipment, you can produce it at the largest scale possible, but if you can't get it where it's needed, when it's needed, it doesn't exist.

— Phillip Buckendorf

I would, I would say, like, anticipation in many ways is the new high ground.

— Phillip Buckendorf

There's always been collective defense, but not necessarily collective logistics. Logistics was on the nation to do things, but the realization is that any one nation can't do it alone.

— Leonard J. Kosinski

I really think logistics, and, and experts do think of it as a weapon system itself. I mean, it's your competitive advantage if you can leverage it. If you can't and you don't see it, it becomes your we- greatest weakness and vulnerability.

— Leonard J. Kosinski

Software's never complete. Software is moving incredibly fast.

— Phillip Buckendorf

Legacy software in aviationAir traffic control staffing and modernizationPhilosophy problem in software procurementContested logisticsDual-use commercial and defense softwarePredictive AI for supply chainsDeterrence and allied collective logistics

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