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In luxury, there’s Hermès… and there’s everyone else. Stewarded by one French family over six generations, Hermès sells the absolute pinnacle of the French luxury dream. Loyal clients will wait *years* simply for the opportunity to buy one of the company’s flagship Birkin or Kelly bags. Unlike every other luxury brand, Hermès: - Doesn’t increase supply to meet demand (hence the waitlists) - Doesn’t loudly brand their products (IYKYK) - Doesn’t do celebrity endorsements (stars buy their bags just like everyone else) - Doesn’t even have a marketing department! (they barely advertise at all) And yet everyone knows who they are and what they represent. But, despite all their iconoclasm, this is not a company that’s stood still for six generations. Unbeknownst to most, Hermès has completely reinvented itself at least three times in its 187-year history. Including most recently (and most dramatically) by the family’s current leaders, who responded to LVMH and Bernard Arnault’s 2010 takeover attempt by pursuing a radical strategy — scaling hand craftsmanship. And in the process they turned the company from a sleepy, ~$10B family enterprise into a $200B market cap European giant. Tune in for one incredible story! Sponsors: Many thanks to our fantastic Season 14 partners: J.P. Morgan Payments https://bit.ly/acquiredJPMP2yt ServiceNow https://bit.ly/acquiredsn Vanta https://bit.ly/acquiredvanta NVIDIA GTC (Code "ACQUIRED" for 20% off) https://www.nvidia.com/gtc/ Visuals for: Haut a Courroies, the “high-belted bag” to carry saddles and boots https://images1.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2014-06/02/94558567-11-1.jpg Chaine d'ancre, “Chain of anchors” https://assets.hermes.com/is/image/hermesproduct/chaine-d-ancre-bracelet-very-large-model--101995B%2000-worn-2-0-0-800-800_g.jpg Jeu des Omnibus et Dames blanches, “White ladies at play” https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/ac/84/61ac84114c03ee8f818d84a7e5684a80.jpg Screen printing each color on a scarf individually http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QjlwKL9D4MU/UHLsucReiJI/AAAAAAAABXA/s_45ULViyQo/s1600/IMG_1615.JPG The Hermès oranges https://blog.fashionphile.com/hermes-oranges/ Sac à Dépêches (today: the Kelly Bag) https://www.hermes.com/us/en/content/106196-kelly/ Grace Kelly photo in LIFE Magaine https://i.huffpost.com/gen/1457564/thumbs/o-GRACE-KELLY-BAG-570.jpg?8 Steps to sew a saddle stitch https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aaLc5iBboXo/V7yawv5AlsI/AAAAAAAAHuc/fTrGbwc-1Gc9FYwBVpTLMCF-r-T7cFj0ACLcB/s1600/Beginning%2Bwith%2Bthreads%2Bover%2Ban%2Bedge.jpg The Birkin Bag https://www.hermes.com/us/en/content/106191-birkin/ Pettit h https://www.hermes.com/us/en/category/petit-h/#%7C Links: The saddle stitch (video) https://youtu.be/g6HOhqaVXW0?si=rdX6cEfgMQpWo31g Inside the Saddlery at the Faubourg https://www.thedashingrider.com/hermes-inside-the-saddlery/ Hermès 2022 Annual Report https://assets-finance.hermes.com/s3fs-public/node/pdf_file/2023-05/1684143348/hermes-urd-2022-en_01.pdf Axel Dumas Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htlh8IpER5g All episode sources https://docs.google.com/document/d/13S39Z-7vF4WE8jbFJq_uK3aR-YDV84oBKK-w1cVUi3o/edit?usp=sharing Carve Outs: Anker GaN Prime 100W charger https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Compact-MacBook-Pixelbook/dp/B0C4DGBHY2 Matter https://hq.getmatter.com Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai The Score Takes Care of Itself https://www.amazon.com/Score-Takes-Care-Itself-Philosophy/dp/1591843472 More Acquired: Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodes https://www.acquired.fm/email Join the Slack http://acquired.fm/slack Subscribe to ACQ2 https://pod.link/acquiredlp Check out the latest swag in the ACQ Merch Store! https://www.acquired.fm/store Note: Acquired hosts and guests may hold assets discussed in this episode. This podcast is not investment advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. You should do your own research and make your own independent decisions when considering any financial transactions. © Copyright ACQ, LLC

Ben GilberthostDavid Rosenthalhost
Feb 20, 20244h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Why Hermès matters: the “anti–short term” luxury giant

    Ben and David set the stage for why Hermès is such a compelling company to study: a $200B+ business built on craft, restraint, and long-term thinking. They frame Hermès as an outlier in modern luxury—family-controlled, intentionally inefficient, and allergic to scale-for-scale’s-sake.

  2. Origins (1801–1837): Thierry Hermès, war, and the craft of équipage

    The story begins with founder Thierry Hermès—an orphaned immigrant whose life is shaped by the Napoleonic era. He apprentices for 16 years in carriage outfitting (équipage), then opens his Paris workshop in 1837 and quickly earns elite patronage.

  3. Paris modernizes—and Hermès rides the status wave

    Napoleon III and Haussmann’s redesign of Paris turns status into a public spectacle—grand boulevards become runways for wealth. Hermès benefits as the best-in-class artisan for the visible elite, parallel to Louis Vuitton’s rise with Empress Eugénie.

  4. Second generation (1878–1902): saddles, Faubourg Saint-Honoré, and legacy location

    After Thierry’s death, Charles-Émile expands into saddlery and moves Hermès to the iconic 24 Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré. The company deepens its equestrian identity while solidifying the flagship address as a core brand asset.

  5. Third generation (1902–1920s): the “accessory” bag that becomes destiny

    Brothers Adolphe and Émile take over, land major elite clients, and introduce the Haut à Courroies as a functional carry bag for saddles/boots. What starts as an accessory quietly becomes Hermès’ bridge into the automobile age.

  6. Émile’s America revelations: Henry Ford, the zipper, and the automobile pivot

    During WWI, Émile visits the U.S., sees Ford’s assembly lines, and recognizes the automobile’s inevitability. He also licenses the zipper, bringing it to France and pioneering early zippered Hermès products—showing Hermès can innovate without abandoning craft.

  7. 1920s–1930s expansion: handbags, ready-to-wear, jewelry, watches, and travel retail

    Hermès broadens into handbags (smaller bag requested by Émile’s wife) and adds adjacent categories—clothing, jewelry, watches—often via collaborations with specialist makers. Store expansion follows the travel patterns of its elite clientele, planting Hermès in the global leisure circuit.

  8. Fourth generation artistry: Robert Dumas brings whimsy, silk scarves, and icon-making

    Robert Dumas injects imaginative flair—turning Hermès into a dream as much as a workshop. He redesigns the handbag (Sac à Dépêches), creates iconic jewelry motifs, launches silk scarves in 1937, and helps define the brand’s quiet luxury and playful identity.

  9. War, orange boxes, logo, and window-theater: building the Hermès “dream portal”

    World War II packaging constraints produce the now-iconic orange box, and postwar Hermès codifies its visual identity with the carriage logo. The flagship’s window displays evolve into theatrical art installations—turning retail into an immersive brand world rather than product merchandising.

  10. The Kelly bag moment (1956) and the 1970s identity crisis

    Grace Kelly’s paparazzi photo with the Sac à Dépêches turns it into the Kelly bag, cementing handbag mythology. But in the 1960s–70s, cultural tastes shift toward fashion-led rebellion, and Hermès struggles—consultants even suggest outsourcing and abandoning the atelier model.

  11. Jean‑Louis Dumas turnaround (late 1970s–2006): modernizing without becoming fashion

    Jean‑Louis Dumas rescues Hermès by repositioning core products for younger consumers while keeping the same craft DNA. He internationalizes the business, creates the Birkin (1984), and turns Hermès from a fragile family house into a global powerhouse—without abandoning its identity.

  12. Arnault vs Hermès (2001–2014): the stealth stake, family lock-up, and ‘even when he loses’

    After failing to acquire Gucci, Bernard Arnault quietly amasses a large Hermès stake using derivatives, nearly consuming the public float and spiking the stock price. The Hermès family responds by pooling shares into a long-term lock-up vehicle (H51), blocking takeover attempts for decades.

  13. Sixth generation scaling the unscalable: ateliers, training pipelines, and controlled growth

    Axel Dumas and Pierre‑Alexis Dumas build a system that scales artisanal production without turning ateliers into factories. Hermès expands capacity through many small workshops, in-house schools, and deliberate constraints—turning scarcity from marketing tactic into operational consequence.

  14. Modern strategy debates: Apple Watch, e-commerce restraint, store autonomy, and marketing minimalism

    The episode closes by exploring modern Hermès choices that test its purity—especially the Apple Watch partnership and machine-made items at lower price points. They also unpack Hermès’ distinctive distribution philosophy (store-level buying autonomy), limited e-commerce for coveted items, and unusually low paid media spend.

  15. Business synthesis: powers, value creation, and the ‘bundle’ only Hermès offers

    Ben and David analyze Hermès through business frameworks: Helmer’s powers, luxury economics (Veblen goods, below-market pricing), and brand durability. They conclude Hermès’ moat is a rare bundle—craft + service + exclusivity + experience + mythology—scaled in a way no competitor can easily replicate.

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