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Deep Dive with Ali AbdaalHow I Built GymShark to $1.4 Billion Business | Ben Francis Gymshark CEO
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Ben Francis on Building Gymshark From Shed to Billion-Dollar Brand
- Francis traces Gymshark's origins from teenage web and app projects, through dropshipped supplements, to hand-making clothes in an asbestos shed because he couldn't find a stringer that fit him.
- A first BodyPower event stand, with YouTuber heroes, an accidental scarcity effect and community lifting sessions, took the site from about £300 a day to £30,000 in the first half hour after relaunch.
- Scaling meant distributing control: hiring Steve (initially part-time) to professionalize the business, building a chiefs' team and surrounding himself with people better than him in each area.
- Francis spent two years deliberately preparing to become CEO after Steve suggested a different type of CEO was needed, working on weaknesses like public speaking and finance under an overarching goal.
- His drive comes from a mission to help people through fitness, not money, and he now shares behind-the-scenes content on YouTube while advising young entrepreneurs to pick a niche, persist through failures and set low bars.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasStart with small, low-bar goals
Francis says Gymshark began because he wanted to be involved in fitness and have a website that transacts, not because he wanted a billion-dollar brand; nothing great is achieved in the short term.
Solving your own problem can create a brand
He couldn't find a stringer that fit his slender frame, so he hand-made fitted fitness wear, which became the seed of Gymshark.
Everyone is winging it on new problems
Francis says leaders of far larger companies, including contacts at Shopify and AKQA, told him they hadn't worked it out either, so there is no prescriptive rule book.
Scaling requires reinventing yourself and letting go
He describes moving from dragging the business to his vision, to working with a team, to inspiring people around a mission, and says distributing control gets easier like a muscle.
Hire people better than you in key areas
Francis argues that if you're the best at something the business is only as scalable as you are, though he notes experience doesn't equal competency and the process is heartbreaking.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesLike genuinely all of them. So the... Again, it's like I always think about it, and this is, it, it hit me, it's gonna sound weird, but it hit me when I first walked into the gym, right?
— Ben Francis
There's not this prescriptive rule book. Like some of the greatest minds in the world might not know the answers to your problems because they're unique, and they need to be solved in a unique way.
— Ben Francis
Someone will do something that you didn't think was the right thing to do, and it'll be infinitely better than any ideas that you would've come up with, and that is one of the most fulfilling and incredible experiences ever 'cause then you're like, "Okay, now we're a team."
— Ben Francis
You can't just meander through life and expect to be something.
— Ben Francis
Gymshark was the seventh business website product that I've made, and the other six failed miserably.
— Ben Francis
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SPEAKERS
Ali Abdaal
hostYouTuber and productivity-focused creator, host of Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal.
Ben Francis
guestFounder and CEO of Gymshark, the fitness apparel brand.
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