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Deep Dive with Ali AbdaalHow To Make It On YouTube In 2023 - Colin And Samir
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Colin and Samir’s 2023 roadmap: format, focus, and creator longevity
- Colin and Samir describe building their career through years of failures, behind-the-scenes creator work, and eventually using interviews and a talk-show format to systematize learning and consistency.
- They argue that becoming a full-time creator isn’t mainly about the end goal, because the day-to-day creation process stays the same even after “making it,” so your relationship with the process matters most.
- They outline “content market fit” as the overlap between what you want to make, what the audience wants, and what the platform wants, and they emphasize audience empathy as a key distinction between creators and artists.
- They say the clearest separator between professional creators and hobbyists is focus and discipline—staying consistent and not diversifying too early out of fear.
- They discuss building scalable extensions (like their newsletter) alongside an unscalable creator-led engine, plus tools for managing fear and volatility like Tim Ferriss’s fear-setting and keeping overhead low.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasTheir “thought leadership” came from long time-in-market and asking better questions, not starting as gurus.
They describe themselves less as “experts” and more as people who spent 12 years in the space, failed a lot, worked behind the scenes, and used interviews to learn directly from creators who had already figured parts of it out.
Creator careers reward people who genuinely tolerate (or love) the repetitive process, not just the imagined destination.
Colin frames the appeal as money and “confidence in identity,” while Samir argues many people who succeed can’t help but keep creating even when it’s irrational and unrewarded; the day-to-day work stays largely the same even after success.
Their path was long, volatile, and supported by “bridge income,” not immediate YouTube monetization.
Samir explains their early years made essentially no money, sustained by savings and contract work for his dad’s clothing company, plus random side gigs; later they were acqui-hired, learned the creator business in a “MBA-like” environment, then left to start again with little plan.
Sustainable growth comes from empathy-driven content market fit, not pure self-expression.
Samir defines “content market fit” as the overlap of what you want to make, what the audience wants, and what the platform wants; he contrasts being an “artist” (less audience empathy) with being a “creator” (audience-collaborative).
Focus + discipline + consistency beat clever diversification when you’re still building.
Both say the most reliable commonality among creators who “make it” is focus and discipline: keep making the best next video instead of ejecting into too many side projects too early.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI think you're only lucky enough once or twice in your life to be that naive.
— Samir Chaudry
Actually, the majority of being a creator is the process of creating.
— Samir Chaudry
An artist has no empathy to the audience, right?
— Samir Chaudry
Being a creator for the internet is a collaborative process with the audience.
— Samir Chaudry
A format is the most powerful thing in media, period.
— Samir Chaudry
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SPEAKERS
Samir Chaudry
guestCo-host of Colin and Samir and co-founder of The Lacrosse Network, focused on creator strategy and business.
Ali Abdaal
hostDoctor-turned YouTuber and educator, host of Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal.
Colin Rosenblum
guestFilmmaker and co-host of Colin and Samir, known for interviewing top creators and building creator-focused media.
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