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E114: Markets update: whipsaw macro picture, big tech, startup mass extinction event, VC reckoning

(0:00) Bestie intro! (1:15) Macro picture update: 0.25% raise, jobs rip up, wage growth continues to slow (17:52) Interest rates impact on mega-cap company creation (33:58) Mass extinction event coming to startups, reckoning for VCs, venture debt issues (1:02:33) Adani's potential fraud, role of short sellers Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/03/january-jobs-labor-market https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-approves-quarter-point-rate-hike-signals-more-increases-likely-11675278190 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART https://www.ustreasuryyieldcurve.com https://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Investor-Definitive-Investing-Essentials/dp/0060555661 https://chamathreads.substack.com/p/higher-rates-will-lead-to-the-next https://www.google.com/finance/quote/META:NASDAQ https://medium.com/@alt.cap/time-to-get-fit-an-open-letter-from-altimeter-to-mark-zuckerberg-and-the-meta-board-of-392d94e80a18 https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fedex-to-cut-global-officer-director-workforce-by-at-least-10 https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/27/23574322/zuckerberg-puts-metas-middle-managers-on-notice https://twitter.com/tomloverro/status/1620466827519496194 https://twitter.com/msuster/status/1620653106387386368 https://twitter.com/gradypb/status/1620937502248034304 https://www.axios.com/2023/02/01/david-cahn-leaves-coatue-for-sequoia-capital https://www.google.com/finance/quote/ADANIENT:NSE?window=1Y https://hindenburgresearch.com/adani https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-30/most-adani-stocks-drop-as-rebuttal-draws-hindenburg-response https://www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/2022/34-94313.pdf https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/03/wall-street-muddy-waters-activist-short-sellers-tesla-gamestop/672774 #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostChamath Palihapitiyahost
Feb 4, 20231h 12mWatch on YouTube ↗

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EPISODE INFO

Released
February 4, 2023
Duration
1h 12m
Channel
All-In Podcast
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

(0:00) Bestie intro! (1:15) Macro picture update: 0.25% raise, jobs rip up, wage growth continues to slow (17:52) Interest rates impact on mega-cap company creation (33:58) Mass extinction event coming to startups, reckoning for VCs, venture debt issues (1:02:33) Adani's potential fraud, role of short sellers Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/03/january-jobs-labor-market https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-approves-quarter-point-rate-hike-signals-more-increases-likely-11675278190 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART https://www.ustreasuryyieldcurve.com https://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Investor-Definitive-Investing-Essentials/dp/0060555661 https://chamathreads.substack.com/p/higher-rates-will-lead-to-the-next https://www.google.com/finance/quote/META:NASDAQ https://medium.com/@alt.cap/time-to-get-fit-an-open-letter-from-altimeter-to-mark-zuckerberg-and-the-meta-board-of-392d94e80a18 https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fedex-to-cut-global-officer-director-workforce-by-at-least-10 https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/27/23574322/zuckerberg-puts-metas-middle-managers-on-notice https://twitter.com/tomloverro/status/1620466827519496194 https://twitter.com/msuster/status/1620653106387386368 https://twitter.com/gradypb/status/1620937502248034304 https://www.axios.com/2023/02/01/david-cahn-leaves-coatue-for-sequoia-capital https://www.google.com/finance/quote/ADANIENT:NSE?window=1Y https://hindenburgresearch.com/adani https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-30/most-adani-stocks-drop-as-rebuttal-draws-hindenburg-response https://www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/2022/34-94313.pdf https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/03/wall-street-muddy-waters-activist-short-sellers-tesla-gamestop/672774 #allin #tech #news

SPEAKERS

  • Jason Calacanis

    host
  • David Friedberg

    host
  • Chamath Palihapitiya

    host
  • Narrator

    other

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of All-In Podcast, featuring Jason Calacanis and David Sacks, E114: Markets update: whipsaw macro picture, big tech, startup mass extinction event, VC reckoning explores whipsaw markets, VC reckoning, and a looming startup extinction event The hosts dissect the rapidly shifting macroenvironment, highlighting how Fed rate moves, strong jobs data, and bond market signals are whipsawing expectations between soft-landing optimism and renewed inflation fears. They argue that even if the broader economy soft lands, tech is already in a bust phase marked by lower valuations, slower capital deployment, and tougher funding conditions. The conversation explores a regime shift away from zero-interest-rate-fueled momentum investing toward fundamentals, cash flow, and value discipline, with big tech (e.g., Meta) as the template. They predict a mass extinction event for overfunded, feature-like startups and a coming reckoning inside VC firms on who actually generated real, distributed returns.

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