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E143: Nvidia smashes earnings, Arm walks the plank, M&A market, Vivek dominates GOP debate & more

(0:00) Bestie intros: Friedberg's interview with NASA Astronaut Woody Hoburg, live from the ISS! (2:58) All-In Tequila update (10:04) Nvidia smashes earnings, GPU market outlook (37:39) Arm files for IPO: positive sign or plank walk? Plus: State of the IPO market (49:51) Sacks on current investable metrics right now in VC (55:33) GOP Debate breakdown: Vivek's statement, DeSantis's strategy, Haley & Christie solidify positions (1:39:46) Vivek's comments on the Climate Agenda (1:47:07) Prigozhin crash Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1694506279954526487 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1693441068036169785 https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1693524941721731189 https://www.wine.com/product/21-seeds-tequila-trio/633617 https://www.villadeste.com https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVDA:NASDAQ https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-second-quarter-fiscal-2024 https://companiesmarketcap.com https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1694457666289225776 https://electrek.co/2023/06/21/tesla-dojo-supercomputer-is-finally-coming-next-month https://prospect.org/features/great-telecom-implosion https://www.statista.com/chart/6780/only-5-countries-have-a-bigger-gdp-than-california https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1694062483462594959 https://openai.com/blog/gpt-3-5-turbo-fine-tuning-and-api-updates https://twitter.com/nathanbenaich/status/1694073194351648932 https://commoncrawl.org/about/team https://adsense.googleblog.com/2005/10/spotlight-on-weblogs-inc.html https://twitter.com/twistartups/status/1694399138194952363 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1973239/000119312523216983/d393891df1.htm https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/13/23793969/adobe-figma-merger-acquisition-uk-cma-regulator-investigation https://venturebeat.com/games/microsoft-signs-15-year-cloud-streaming-deal-with-ubisoft-in-latest-bid-to-win-activision-blizzard-approval https://www.stonealgo.com https://youtu.be/f51Yd9h9ZXo https://www.natesilver.net/p/ramaswamy-and-the-physics-of-multi https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html https://www.mediaite.com/politics/whopping-ninety-six-percent-oppose-supporting-ukraine-against-russia-in-turning-points-action-straw-poll #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostChamath PalihapitiyahostGuestguest
Aug 25, 20231h 52mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Nvidia’s AI boom, Arm’s struggles, GOP shake-up and market reset

  1. The episode spans Nvidia’s blowout earnings and what they mean for the AI chip race, Arm’s challenged IPO amid shifting hardware standards, and a broader reset in venture, IPO, and M&A markets toward profitability and PE-style discipline.
  2. The besties debate whether today’s GPU buildout echoes the dot-com fiber glut, how open-source models and infrastructure will erode Nvidia-like margins, and why enterprises may prefer self-hosted AI stacks over OpenAI-centric solutions.
  3. They unpack the coming Arm IPO, SoftBank’s deleveraging motives, and why much of late-stage private tech must either get profitable, sell cheaply, or “walk the plank” into down-round IPOs.
  4. In politics, they analyze the first GOP debate, Vivek Ramaswamy’s rise as a Trump-aligned outsider, DeSantis’ “grown‑up” positioning, Nikki Haley’s standout moments, and how social media and podcasts are reshaping candidate emergence and messaging.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Nvidia’s current margins and growth are extraordinary but not indefinitely defensible.

Triple-digit revenue growth, 843% net income growth, and a $25B buyback reflect a supply-constrained GPU market, but basic competitive dynamics (custom silicon from hyperscalers, Tesla Dojo, TPUs, RISC-V) will eventually compress margins.

AI compute spending is in a discovery phase that likely includes significant overbuild.

Companies are throwing massive GPU budgets at problems under the assumption of linear returns; in reality, each use case has an ‘efficient frontier’ where additional compute yields diminishing economic returns, echoing the overbuilt fiber era.

Open-source models and infrastructure will commoditize core AI capabilities and favor startups later.

Big tech is effectively ‘scorching the earth’ on model economics by open-sourcing or cheapening high-quality models (e.g., LLaMA 2), which will create a base of quasi-free tools on top of which new startups—especially in domains like computational biology and materials—can thrive.

Enterprises increasingly want AI they control, pushing demand for open-source stacks and custom infrastructure.

Fine-tuning services from OpenAI are powerful, but many corporates won’t expose HR, financial, or operational data to an external provider, driving adoption of open-source models (Mosaic, Hugging Face) and hardware abstraction layers, and accelerating open hardware designs.

Arm’s IPO is more about SoftBank’s balance sheet than Arm’s growth story.

Arm’s revenues are flat-to-down in a world shifting toward AI accelerators, RISC-V, and large customers insourcing silicon; Chamath argues Arm’s fundamentals look more like a $15–20B company than the $60–70B valuation SoftBank needs to delever.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Most of this CapEx is going to the big guys, but the dividends of all the work that these big guys are doing will be seen over the next few years in the startups that get started in the next four or five years.

Chamath Palihapitiya

You either have to be default alive, which means profitable, or default investible, which means that you're capable of producing metrics that a VC will fund.

David Sacks

This is a bit of a cycle that there looks to be a bubble... everyone is throwing everything they can at compute, and they're gonna realize that they're gonna need to rationalize those expenses at some point.

David Friedberg

SoftBank is under a lot of pressure to just clean up the balance sheet and delever. When you have an asset like [Arm] sitting there, if you can sell 20 or 30 billion of that... that provides tremendous liquidity and relief.

Chamath Palihapitiya

I think the Republican Party demonstrated that it is the party of ideas, where there actually are debates happening... You compare that to the Democratic Party—they’re not even having a debate.

David Sacks

Nvidia’s record earnings, AI GPU demand, and looming competitionAI infrastructure overbuild, efficient frontier of compute, and historical analogies to the fiber/telecom bubbleOpen-source AI (LLaMA, RISC-V, Common Crawl) and enterprise preference for control and data sovereigntyArm’s IPO, SoftBank’s deleveraging, and changing chip-market dynamicsThe frozen IPO and M&A markets, and the shift from VC-style growth-at-all-costs to PE-style profitabilityStartup survival strategies: default alive vs. default investable, and realistic fundraising benchmarksGOP primary analysis: Vivek’s strategy, DeSantis’ lane, Nikki Haley and others, and the impact of new media on politicsClimate agenda skepticism, Covid-era trust erosion, and alternative framings for decarbonization and energy policyRussia, Prigozhin’s death, and interpretations of Putin’s power and the Ukraine war trajectory

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