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E160: 2024 Predictions! Markets, tech, politics, and more

(0:00) Bestie intros! Pasty Preppers (4:17) 2024's Biggest Political Winner (13:37) 2024's Biggest Political Loser (19:41) 2024's Biggest Business Winner (32:08) 2024's Biggest Business Loser (37:31) 2024's Biggest Business Deal (41:15) 2024's Most Contrarian Belief (51:18) 2024's Best-Performing Asset (56:46) 2024's Worst-Performing Asset (1:06:14) 2024's Most Anticipated Trend (1:12:28) 2024's Most Anticipated Media (1:22:28) Emotional condition heading into 2024 Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://twitter.com/Jason https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://lmc.icds.ee/lennart-meri-lecture-by-fiona-hill https://news.gallup.com/poll/512135/support-third-political-party.aspx https://apnews.com/article/robert-kennedy-president-election-utah-ballot-863513ec2bf75d1efc9b202cb8ddcc4a https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-instead-of-dollars-for-chinese-oil-sales-11647351541 https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2023/08/10/us-saudi-arabia-sell-oil-dollars-chinese-yuan https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/putin-talk-oil-uae-saudi-meet-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-2023-12-06 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=853724306532726 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/07/californias-budget-deficit-balloons-to-68b-00130624 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/28/in-grips-of-war-ukraine-faces-gloomy-demographic-future https://razumkov.org.ua/en/articles/pension-system-can-ukrainian-pensions-be-saved https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-20/Middle-East/Israel-won-t-be-able-to-eliminate-Hamas-US-spokesperson-33415 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/08/30/us-natural-gas-production-sets-new-record-high https://www.anduril.com/roadrunner https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/19/missile-drone-pentagon-houthi-attacks-iran-00132480 https://twitter.com/CeciliaZin/status/1740109465918328844 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/business/china-car-exports.html https://img.caixin.com//2023-04-14/168147450347265.jpg https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/china/china-russia-relations-record-trade-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm https://thehill.com/opinion/4383282-turkey-is-a-us-ally-but-should-not-be-a-trusted-one https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/06/turkey-nato-membership-alliance-russia-erdogan-sweden-syria https://apnews.com/article/nato-sweden-turkey-erdogan-stoltenberg-639d70add38ec481253729b0e451f4ea https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/27/biden-endgame-ukraine-00133211 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/URA:NYSEARCA https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/28/the-west-may-now-have-no-option-but-to-attack-iran https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9218128 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13016388 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11198330 https://www.amazon.com/Founders-Paypal-Entrepreneurs-Shaped-Silicon/dp/1501197266 #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostChamath Palihapitiyahost
Jan 5, 20241h 27mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

All-In Besties Forecast 2024: Geopolitics, AI, Markets, and Mayhem

  1. The hosts of the All-In Podcast share wide-ranging 2024 predictions across politics, business, technology, and markets, framed by a mix of dark geopolitical risk and optimism about innovation.
  2. Politically, they foresee Vladimir Putin and non-traditional US political movements as major winners, with Ukraine, Netanyahu, and the broader ‘collective West’ likely to lose ground.
  3. On the business and tech front, they predict big upside for commodities, energy, uranium, Bitcoin, bootstrapped startups, and defense tech like Anduril, while warning of serious pain for overvalued AI/LLM startups, late-stage private SaaS, vertical SaaS, and possibly OpenAI’s valuation.
  4. They expect AI to be profoundly deflationary, driving custom in-house software, generative media, AI-powered news, and efficiency via automation and global talent, while macro turbulence, high debt, and rising conflict risks—including a non-trivial chance of nuclear use—create a highly uncertain backdrop.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Putin is positioned as a major geopolitical ‘winner’ in 2024.

Sacks argues Russia has stabilized its economy, gained ground in Ukraine, and increased influence in the Global South and BRICS, turning Western sanctions and ‘Project Ukraine’ into strategic own-goals for the West.

Independent and centrist candidates could meaningfully disrupt the US two‑party system.

Multiple hosts highlight growing voter disgust with both Democrats and Republicans, pointing to RFK Jr. and broader third‑party interest as the start of a structural break in US politics.

AI will drive a brutal reset in software economics, especially for vertical and late‑stage SaaS.

Friedberg and Chamath see generative tools and low‑code platforms enabling cheap in‑house replacements for expensive vertical SaaS, compressing pricing and margins, and hammering overvalued private SaaS valuations.

Training data and IP rights-holders may become structurally powerful in the AI stack.

JCal predicts that publishers like The New York Times, Reddit, X, and Disney will secure nine‑figure licensing deals or revenue shares as LLMs are forced to respect copyright, creating a durable economic position for content owners.

Macro and geopolitical risks remain high, with non-trivial nuclear escalation risk.

Friedberg warns that depleted munitions, high global debt, and multiple active conflicts raise the probability—still low but rising—of a tactical nuclear weapon being used, as well as potential fractures in NATO (e.g., around Turkey).

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“My prediction for biggest political winner in 2024 is Vladimir Putin.”

David Sacks

“I think this election starts the breakdown of the two-party system.”

Chamath Palihapitiya

“Vertical SaaS businesses… are gonna get smacked this year.”

David Friedberg

“This is the most important year for Bitcoin that has ever existed.”

Chamath Palihapitiya

“People buying secondary at 90 billion [OpenAI] right now will be underwater next year.”

Chamath Palihapitiya

2024 political winners and losers: Putin, RFK/independents, Ukraine, Netanyahu, the ‘collective West’Geopolitical realignment: BRICS, Saudi Arabia, dollar hegemony, and weakening Western influenceBiggest business winners: commodities, defense tech (Anduril), training data owners, bootstrapped/profitable startupsBiggest business losers: vertical SaaS, late-stage private SaaS, German industry, peak pro sports valuationsAI economics and IP: OpenAI, model latency/costs, licensing battles (New York Times), open source vs. proprietaryMarket and asset-class predictions: uranium, energy stocks, Bitcoin ETFs, Magnificent Seven vs. S&P 493, regional banks and the FedMedia and culture: MrBeast, AI-generated news, PayPal ‘Founders’ TV project, blockbuster films/series

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