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E25: Biden's vaccine mandate, "equity" in distribution, NFT speculation, impact of inflation & more

Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/MikeSylvan Articles referenced in the show: The New England Journal of Medicine - BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Mass Vaccination Setting https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765 San Francisco COVID-19 Vaccinations https://data.sfgov.org/stories/s/COVID-19-Vaccinations/a49y-jeyc/ The Art Newspaper - WTAF? Beeple NFT work sells for astonishing $69.3m at Christie’s after flurry of last-minute bids nearly crashes website https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/beeple-sells-for-christie-s-nft-art-auction-cryptocurrency CoinDesk - Burnt Banksy NFT Sells for $380K in ETH https://www.coindesk.com/burnt-banksy-nft-sells-for-380k-in-eth CNBC - Beeple NFT becomes most expensive ever sold at auction after fetching over $60 million https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/most-expensive-nft-ever-sold-auctions-for-over-60-million.html Glenn Greenwald: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/criticizing-public-figures-including https://greenwald.substack.com/p/journalists-start-demanding-substack Tweets referenced in the show: https://twitter.com/davidsacks/status/1370197389210914817 https://twitter.com/davidsacks/status/1370132006080708609 https://twitter.com/davidsacks/status/1370253867154247684 https://twitter.com/davidsacks/status/1370441843666690050 https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1369328384812093441 https://twitter.com/JTLonsdale/status/1369893590369964032 https://twitter.com/domm/status/1368605017238740994 https://twitter.com/CovidVaccineCA Show Notes: 0:00 Biden's vaccine mandate, California's mishandling of the vaccine rollout, cancel culture impacting vaccine distribution 11:00 Vaccine efficacy, "inequity" of distribution 19:24 Success vs. privilege, Meghan Markle vs. The Royal Family 33:38 NFTs, speculative markets, blockchain as a ledger 48:00 Impact of inflation on wealth inequality 1:01:20 SPAC/Direct Listing talk 1:07:46 Yung Spielburg's newest track: RED PILLS #allin #tech #news

Jason CalacanishostChamath PalihapitiyahostDavid Friedberghost
Mar 13, 20211h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Cold open banter, show setup, and pivot to vaccines + stimulus

    The hosts riff on fan-made sound drops and intro jokes before Jason tees up the week’s main topics: Biden’s vaccine eligibility timeline, vaccination pace, and the newly passed $1.9T stimulus bill. The conversation sets a tone of skepticism toward bureaucratic rollout issues and political messaging.

    • Running jokes and show catchphrases from fan edits
    • Biden’s May 1 eligibility target and rising daily vaccination rates
    • Clarifying $1.9T stimulus magnitude and quick reactions to it
    • Transition into state-by-state execution issues, especially California
  2. California’s vaccine rollout bottlenecks: inventory pileups, websites, and eligibility rules

    Sacks argues California is failing operationally, with millions of unused doses accumulating because of appointment systems and restrictive eligibility rules. The group frames the process as counterproductive for the very communities it claims to protect.

    • Unused vaccine inventory growing faster than shots administered
    • Appointments/website complexity disadvantages less tech-savvy groups
    • Argument for “open the line” walk-up distribution over strict gating
    • Critique of state leadership and political incentives
  3. “Equity zones” and unintended consequences: hacks, scarcity theater, and variant risk

    The hosts attack the idea of reserving large vaccine allocations for “equity zones,” arguing it adds middlemen, contracts, and friction. They claim scarcity messaging fuels social shaming and slows vaccination—raising the risk of prolonged spread and mutations.

    • 40% set-asides for “equity zones” described as a complex distribution scheme
    • Accusations of consultants/contractors profiting while execution worsens
    • Concern that delayed vaccination increases chances of dangerous variants
    • Social pressure/cancel culture makes some people hide being vaccinated
  4. Practical workarounds and the surplus reality: doctor’s notes, checkbox attestations, and supply forecasts

    Sacks offers a PSA about getting vaccinated via a doctor’s note, while Friedberg notes many people can’t access that path and instead “hack” eligibility online. Friedberg then zooms out: supply is ramping so fast that market dynamics will overwhelm bureaucratic rationing soon.

    • Doctor’s note eligibility in California and why it’s unevenly accessible
    • People checking boxes/attesting eligibility with minimal verification
    • Forecasts suggest a growing national inventory surplus
    • Prediction: rapid progress toward ending the pandemic despite bad process
  5. Vaccine efficacy explained: day-8 protection signals and transmission uncertainty

    Chamath asks for a science-grounded view of efficacy and contagiousness post-vaccination. Friedberg and Jason discuss population data, emphasizing strong protection after the first Pfizer dose and how transmission likely drops even if not fully quantified yet.

    • NEJM-style population comparisons and when efficacy “kicks in”
    • Notable protection emerging around day 8 after first Pfizer dose
    • Stronger overall protection after ~3–4 weeks and second dose benefits
    • Transmission: still being studied, but theory suggests much lower spread
  6. Messaging wars: anti-vax/“forever COVID,” public fear, and the language of “equity” as power

    The group debates how online discourse distorts vaccine confidence and why people hesitate to speak publicly about getting vaccinated. Chamath and Sacks broaden the critique to political language—arguing terms like “equity/inequity” are often used to justify control rather than outcomes.

    • Frustration with loud “vaccine doesn’t work” / indefinite restrictions narratives
    • Claim that social punishment discourages pro-vaccine voices
    • Chamath’s distinction: “equity” (ownership/power) vs “equality” (balance)
    • Encouragement to ‘take the win’ and move on post-availability
  7. Success vs. privilege and the Meghan Markle / Royal Family backlash

    Sacks argues “privilege” is increasingly used to delegitimize earned success, and the conversation shifts into the Oprah interview. The hosts debate sympathy vs skepticism, incentives behind victim framing, and the monarchy’s long-term relevance—mixing cultural context with media-business commentary.

    • Success framed as earned; ‘privilege’ framed as unearned and politically loaded
    • Oprah vs. monarchy as cultural symbols; US vs Commonwealth perspective
    • Skepticism about public attacks on family and “victim status” narratives
    • Discussion of money, media deals (Netflix/Spotify), and public perceptions
  8. Cancel culture microdrama: journalist ‘hall monitors’ and the entrepreneur forced to apologize for fitness talk

    The hosts pivot to a broader critique of social-media enforcement culture, citing a Glenn Greenwald takedown and a viral incident where an entrepreneur apologizes after linking fitness to work performance. They argue apology fuels the mob and distracts from real issues—especially during COVID.

    • Greenwald critique: reporters policing speech while demanding immunity from criticism
    • Example: entrepreneur Dom’s fitness tweet and subsequent apology
    • Argument that apologizing escalates backlash rather than ending it
    • Obesity and age as major COVID risk factors used to frame the debate
  9. NFTs go mainstream: Beeple’s $69M sale, speculation vs. real utility, and blockchain provenance

    A major NFT sale triggers a discussion separating NFT tech (provenance on-chain) from frothy pricing and market manipulation. Chamath and Sacks argue the core breakthrough is verifiable ownership that can extend beyond art to many titled assets, while Friedberg frames NFTs as non-productive stores of value in a liquidity-heavy market.

    • Beeple auction stats: new bidders, younger demographics, global participation
    • NFTs as provenance/ownership rails; most individual NFTs may be worthless
    • Tokenizing real-world assets could enable transparent lending and trading
    • Non-productive assets inflate when capital is abundant; risk reverses in downturns
  10. Rights, reproduction, and “burning Banksy”: what exactly does an NFT buyer own?

    Jason presses on IP and commercial rights: owning an NFT doesn’t necessarily mean owning reproduction rights. The hosts explore how creators can mint variations, and Chamath shares the Banksy burn-and-mint stunt as a vivid example of cultural and financial experimentation in digital scarcity.

    • Distinguishing token ownership from copyright/commercial exploitation rights
    • Creators can mint new works or near-duplicates (e.g., pixel changes)
    • Banksy burn story: physical art destroyed, NFT sold at a profit
    • Music/album NFTs as early experiments in bundling access and content
  11. Stimulus and inflation: will price rises reduce inequality or recreate 1970s ‘misery’?

    Friedberg connects stimulus-driven liquidity to asset inflation and asks about second-order effects over the next 18 months. Chamath argues inflation historically compresses wealth inequality (citing late-1970s), while Sacks warns that high inflation harms savings and can spiral—invoking the ‘misery index’ and Volcker-era lessons.

    • Stimulus checks and broader injection effects beyond direct relief
    • Chamath: inflation can reduce wealth inequality by devaluing financial wealth and lifting wages
    • Sacks: late-1970s were economically painful; beware runaway inflation
    • Sector implications: commodities/value vs. long-duration tech assets
  12. Quality-of-life politics and crime in SF/LA: prosecutorial policy, recalls, and real-world spillover

    The conversation veers into local governance: Sacks argues progressive prosecutors reduce prosecutions and embolden crime, hurting quality of life even in wealthy cities. They cite anecdotes and stats around SF DA Chesa Boudin and parallel concerns in LA, plus fundraising efforts for investigative coverage.

    • Quality-of-life metrics vs. wealth: rich cities can feel unsafe/unlivable
    • Claims that reduced trials/convictions increase emboldened criminal behavior
    • SF and LA examples (car break-ins, restaurant robbery/shooting)
    • GoFundMe effort to fund journalism/data reporting on prosecution outcomes
  13. SPACs, direct listings, and ‘venture in public markets’ + Pipe shout-out

    In the closing stretch, the hosts discuss Roblox’s direct listing and whether it solved IPO underpricing. They then broaden to how SPACs/direct listings are pushing earlier-stage risk into public markets, and highlight Pipe as an example of non-dilutive financing reshaping venture dynamics—teasing a future episode on VC’s evolution.

    • Direct listing still resulted in large effective ‘underpricing’ debate
    • Public markets increasingly pricing venture-like risk profiles
    • Portfolio construction may resemble venture (few winners, many zeros)
    • Pipe marketplace for recurring revenue financing; non-dilutive growth trend
  14. Extended goodbye and the ‘RED PILLS’ track outro

    The hosts wrap with affectionate banter and scheduling the next topic, then the episode ends with Jason performing and looping ‘Red Pills got me lit,’ matching the show’s comedic, meme-driven style.

    • Final sign-offs and next-episode teaser (future of venture capital)
    • Running jokes about dragging out the goodbye
    • Outro performance: ‘RED PILLS’ refrain
    • Loose callback to earlier NFT conversation in the lyrics/ad-libs

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