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What does it take to stay calm when millions are watching? Rebecca Lowe, the host of NBC’s Premier League coverage and Fox’s record-breaking 2026 World Cup broadcast, joins Brené Brown and Adam Grant to explore why preparation, not confidence, is her real superpower the weight of being one of the only women in the room and what it really means to lead when things get chaotic. Together, they unpack the difference between presence and preparedness, the “permission slip” moment that defines great leadership, and why the loudest person in the room isn’t always the one in charge. Along the way, Rebecca reflects on breaking barriers in a male-dominated industry, how she earns trust from personalities like Zlatan Ibrahimović, and the teachable habit she uses to keep her co-hosts focused from spiraling on live TV. #RebeccaLowe #brenebrown #adamgrant #TheCuriosityShop Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop About The Curiosity Shop: Research professor Brené Brown and organizational psychologist Adam Grant are partnering on a new weekly podcast grounded in an unflinching commitment to learning and unlearning. At a time when public discourse rewards certainty over inquiry, The Curiosity Shop features two of the world's most sought-after experts on connection, change, and leadership making the case for slowing down, asking better questions, and embracing informed complexity over easy answers. Bringing together their left and right brain sensibilities — she’s a qualitative researcher; he’s a quantitative researcher — they explore some of the defining questions of our time, unpack the research reshaping how we live, lead, and love, and dive deep into the ideas, evidence, and cultural moments intriguing them the most. New episodes drop every Thursday. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Connect with The Curiosity Shop: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecuriosityshop/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1730985049 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3oEPsPKDhPVoNNL7pH5db6?si=e2483abb4eed4b03 Connect with Brené Brown: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brenebrown/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenebrown/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brenebrown/ Connect with Adam Grant: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adamgrant/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adammgrant/ X: https://x.com/adammgrant/ ============================= Chapters: 00:00 Introducing Rebecca Lowe 02:56 How She Fell in Love with Football 10:04 The Accidental Start in Broadcasting 13:17 Standing Out in a Male-Dominated Field 20:44 Surviving Sexism in Sports Broadcasting 25:36 Why Speaking Up Felt Futile 29:15 Becoming a Trailblazer for Women in Sports 35:14 The Art of Interrupting Well 44:49 Managing Different Broadcast Personalities 53:16 Giving Feedback to World-Class Performer 59:42 Staying Calm Under Live Pressure 1:06:11 Fast Lightning Round 1:11:36 Breaking Down Rebecca's Success 1:15:41 What They Learned From Rebecca 1:17:50 Healthy Striving vs. Workaholism 1:21:27 Perfectionism vs. Healthy Striving 1:22:13 The Interrupting Cow Joke Show Notes: http://thecuriosityshop.com/podcast/why-sports-matter-even-when-the-game-doesnt-ft-roger-bennett Leading Under Pressure with Rebecca Lowe | The Curiosity Shop https://www.youtube.com/@TheCuriosityShop

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Aug 6, 20261h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rebecca Lowe on pressure leadership, preparation, and navigating sexism on-air

  1. Rebecca Lowe traces her love of football to childhood experiences that created deep feelings of belonging, joy, and shared community.
  2. She describes an “accidental” entry into BBC sports broadcasting via a talent search, where acting training and intense preparation helped her stand out in a male-dominated field.
  3. Lowe recounts enduring public sexism and harassment in English football media (notably a 2012 Arsenal–Leeds match), explaining why speaking up felt unsafe and futile at the time.
  4. She breaks down practical on-air leadership skills—interrupting sparingly but strategically, managing airtime, and adapting to different panel personalities to make others “shine.”
  5. Lowe and the hosts connect her approach to broader leadership lessons: preparedness over performative “presence,” calm as a contagious regulation tool, and feedback timing that respects vulnerability and builds trust.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Preparedness is the real source of “presence.”

Lowe argues you earn the right to be flexible, playful, and improvisational only by doing exhaustive prep—notes, background research, constant information intake—so you’re never stranded on live air.

If speaking up feels futile, leadership systems are missing.

Her 2012 harassment story shows that “safety” alone isn’t enough; people also need clear channels, responsible owners, and evidence concerns will lead to action (not just sympathy).

Interrupt rarely—use it to sharpen others’ best points.

Lowe treats interruption as a scarce tool: she jumps in to clarify a strong statement, stop drift, force decisiveness (“one word / yes-no”), or protect time—always in service of panelists’ clarity and the viewer.

Time constraints force meeting discipline that most workplaces lack.

Live TV’s countdown-to-break makes long-windedness impossible; her transferable advice is to shorten setup, get to the point fast, and use explicit time cues (timers, repeated reminders) to prevent airtime monopolies.

Calm is contagious—don’t mirror chaos.

When energy spikes, she slows down, softens volume, and steadies tone; the contrast pulls others into regulation, preserving credibility and preventing “panic,” which she views as career-ending in live contexts.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Preparedness is the unlock to fun, to going off script a little bit, because you are ready.

Brené Brown

Because the fear in my body of being on air and something happens and I can't fill that time, which is my job, you can't come back from that. So I would rather be so boring and, and so that when that light goes on, like you said, Brené, I am so ready- No matter what happens, I've got notes.

Rebecca Lowe

But I also never spoke up. And I suppose when I really think about why didn't I speak up is probably because I thought it would be futile. There wasn't anyone else talking about it. And ultimately, I didn't wanna be a problem.

Rebecca Lowe

I'm literally the traffic cop, and those three are the stars, and I'm just directing them h- where to go so that their star can shine as bright as possible.

Rebecca Lowe

You never match tone or speed of conversation when people get out of hand. You go quieter and slower, and they model what you're doing.

Brené Brown

Origins of fandom: belonging and communityAccidental career start: BBC talent searchPreparedness as the foundation of on-air excellenceSexism and harassment in sports broadcastingPsychological safety and “worthwhile” speaking upStrategic interruption and time/airtime managementManaging big personalities and giving feedback under pressureCalm as a leadership skill under live constraintsHealthy striving vs. maladaptive work patternsRange/circuitous paths building transferable skills

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