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Bear Grylls: Man VS Failure, Anxiety & Imposter Syndrome | E155

Bear Grylls is a British adventurer and television host who has been an international sensation of survival shows for twenty years. The host of Man vs. Wild, You vs. Wild, Running Wild, The Island, and the author of Mud, Sweat and Tears and over twenty other books, he's come in to talk to us about his new book - Never Give Up. Topics: 00:00 Intro 01:28 Confidence 08:08 Imposter syndrome 14:27 Resilience 20:01 When to quit 23:26 Are we always chasing a bigger challenge? 27:22 Finding your faith 32:37 Climbing Everest was humbling 35:37 Struggling with fame 41:35 Anxiety 46:41 What were your darkest moments? 49:38 What would you say to your father if he was alive? 55:36 The importance of relationships 01:00:59 Is your career complete? 01:05:30 Your latest and most special book: What did it teach you? 01:10:22 Our last guest's question Bear: https://twitter.com/BearGrylls https://www.instagram.com/beargrylls/?hl=en  Bear’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Never-Give-extraordinary-autobiography-phenomenon/dp/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT... FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-ba... Sponsors: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven Myenergi - https://bit.ly/3oeWGnl Vodafone Business - https://bit.ly/3Nagd1l Min term and eligibility criteria apply. £200 via prepaid card. Small business customers (less than 10 employees) only. 75K & 115K based on customer trial. For full terms and conditions please visit www.vodafone.co.uk/digitalboost.

Bear GryllsguestSteven Bartletthost
Jun 27, 20221h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 2:00 – 7:10

    Demons, Shyness, And Redefining Confidence

    Bear reflects on his childhood lack of confidence, feeling invisible at school, and the long process of finding identity through climbing and adventure with his father. He challenges the schoolyard currencies of looks, grades, and athleticism, proposing a quieter, more durable definition of confidence based on kindness, resilience, and doing your best.

    • Bear grew up shy, not particularly sporty, academic, or ‘cool,’ and struggled to find confidence at school.
    • School tends to overvalue looks, academics, and popularity, which don’t necessarily predict life success.
    • His father—an ex‑commando—introduced him to climbing and ‘mini adventures’ which became his safe place and passion.
    • His dad’s core life advice: find something you love, be kind, and be doggedly resilient.
    • Bear now sees confidence as quiet honesty and persistence, not loud self‑assurance or bravado.
  2. 7:10 – 14:40

    Invisible Heroes, Talent Myths, And Imposter Syndrome

    The conversation turns to who society celebrates and how Bear relates to the term ‘talent’ and the feeling of being an imposter. He explains why he sees camera crews, locals, and specialists as the real heroes, and describes how rising success has actually increased his sense of not being ‘enough’.

    • Bear dislikes the label ‘talent’ and resists being seen as uniquely gifted.
    • He sees quiet, behind‑the‑scenes people (camera crews, locals, experts) as true heroes who often work harder and carry more weight.
    • Longevity with his crew is a major point of pride, built on loyalty and shared hardship in dangerous environments.
    • Imposter syndrome has grown with success; he’s constantly surrounded by others he believes are technically better than him.
    • He copes by focusing on ‘doing his best’ instead of being the best, and by accepting that TV only shows the edited, polished moments.
  3. 14:40 – 25:20

    Selection, Resilience Muscle, And The Power Of ‘Just’ Getting Through

    Bear and Steven dive into Special Forces selection and how it forged his view that resilience—not talent—decides who passes. They unpack how small, often unnoticed efforts in youth can create a huge resilience advantage later in life.

    • Special Forces selection is designed to test heart and spirit, not innate brilliance.
    • Bear insists he passed things ‘just’—barely—and attributes success to stubbornness and support from others.
    • He emphasizes the role of mentors and small acts of belief from instructors and teammates at critical moments.
    • Resilience grows through repeated exposure to failure and choosing to stand up again.
    • Over‑rewarded ‘school heroes’ may struggle later because they’ve never built resilience; unseen kids who quietly persist often thrive in adult life.
  4. 25:20 – 35:00

    Everyday Choices, Self‑Story, And Seeking Out Hard Moments

    Using examples like finishing a run when no one’s watching, Bear and Steven examine how small, private decisions shape identity. Bear shares how he re‑frames complaining and quitting from others as personal trigger moments to give more effort, not less.

    • Resilience is reinforced by the internal ‘story’ you tell yourself with every decision to persist or quit.
    • Moments when no one is watching (like finishing the last minutes of a run) are critical to self‑trust.
    • Bear learned to see others’ complaints or quitting as cues to push harder, not as invitations to back off.
    • He uses micro‑targets like ‘you can do anything for another 10 seconds’ to endure intense discomfort.
    • Training discomfort tolerance (e.g., cold water immersion) keeps his inner resilience muscle honed.
  5. 35:00 – 45:00

    Never Give Up – But Also Know When To Stop

    Bear tackles the paradox of his ‘Never Give Up’ mantra and the necessity of quitting in certain contexts. He draws on mountaineering, soldiering, and daily life to explain how wisdom is the ability to adapt, listen to intuition, and change plans without abandoning core perseverance.

    • Blind persistence can be dangerous; wisdom lies in adapting to conditions and intuition.
    • Great mountaineers are often older because they’ve learned patience and when to turn back.
    • Special Forces doctrine—‘improvise, adapt, overcome’—mirrors this flexible resilience philosophy.
    • Bear differentiates between quitting bad habits (like smoking) and quitting on meaningful goals too early.
    • He advocates regular, manageable challenges (cold water, small daily hardships) to keep resilience active without chasing ever‑bigger thrills.
  6. 45:00 – 57:00

    Beyond Achievement: Fulfillment, Faith, And The Limits Of Everest

    The discussion shifts to what actually fulfills Bear after huge accomplishments like summiting Everest and winning Emmys. He concludes that achievements alone don’t satisfy, and opens up about his evolving Christian faith, including how extreme hardship can both shake and deepen belief.

    • Everest symbolized a huge life goal, but didn’t answer deeper questions or provide lasting fulfillment.
    • Witnessing death and high risk transformed his view: he would not take the same one‑in‑six fatality odds now that he has more to live for.
    • He sees fulfillment more in his 22‑year marriage, raising his three sons, crew friendships, and Scouts work than in trophies.
    • Bear distinguishes personal faith from institutional religion; he rejected formal church as a kid but retained a natural sense of a higher power.
    • He describes faith as believing you’re loved, forgiven, not alone, and empowered to live bravely despite doubt and fear.
  7. 57:00 – 1:04:10

    Obama, Prayer, And Taking Awkward But Meaningful Risks

    Bear recounts praying spontaneously with President Obama after a wilderness trip in Alaska, a moment never designed for TV. He uses it to illustrate his belief that awkward gestures—prayer, gratitude, or telling people you value them—often have outsized emotional impact.

    • After seeing Obama relax in the wild, Bear sensed the weight the president carried and wanted to ‘refill his fuel tank.’
    • He placed a hand on Obama’s shoulder and offered a brief prayer for strength in big decisions.
    • Though unscripted and potentially awkward, the moment resonated deeply with viewers and Bear still hears about it.
    • He links this to everyday courage: telling a friend they’re amazing or thanking someone sincerely can feel awkward but be profoundly meaningful.
    • The wild strips away pretense, making genuine connection and vulnerable gestures more natural.
  8. 1:04:10 – 1:14:00

    Everest Deaths, Luck, And Life With The Gloves Off

    Revisiting Everest, Bear reflects on the deaths of four climbers during his expedition and how that shattered his earlier belief that effort guarantees good outcomes. He talks about survivor’s guilt, luck, and choosing a positive attitude in a world with no guarantees.

    • At the time, Everest was killing roughly one in six climbers; Bear saw death up close, not as romantic but as dark and confusing.
    • Four climbers from other teams died during his expedition, leaving their teammates traumatized.
    • He came away feeling ‘really lucky’ rather than triumphant, and deeply skeptical of the idea that hard work ensures safety or success.
    • He now sees life as ‘gloves off’—there are no rules that protect you from illness or catastrophe, even if you give your best.
    • Despite this, he still advocates deliberately choosing positive attitudes and doing your best daily, knowing outcomes are uncertain.
  9. 1:14:00 – 1:27:00

    Fame, Anxiety, And Making It About Other People

    The pair analyze the psychological cost of fame, including Bear’s anxiety once he realized how many people watched Man vs. Wild. He explains how reframing fame as an opportunity to serve and inspire others helped him regain ease and purpose.

    • Bear rarely does press and feels uneasy with the word ‘fame’; he worries he’ll disappoint people who expect the TV version of him.
    • Learning his show had over a billion viewers initially made him self‑conscious and anxious about filming.
    • His mindset shifted when he realized fans’ stories were about themselves—camping with their kids, joining Scouts—rather than about him.
    • He now frames encounters as chances to encourage others and point them toward their own adventures and growth.
    • Roles like Chief Scout and Running Wild suit him because they redirect spotlight toward young people or celebrity guests discovering the wild.
  10. 1:27:00 – 1:36:00

    Anxiety, Mental Health, And The Healing Power Of The Wild

    Steven and Bear explore anxiety, depression, and how modern mental health issues relate to disconnection from tribe and nature. Bear shares the simple, practical routines and communities that keep his own mental health on track.

    • Bear welcomes increased openness around mental health, calling it a long‑neglected ‘weapon in our arsenal for life.’
    • He argues we must tend physical, emotional, spiritual, and mental health; neglecting any dimension eventually hurts the heart.
    • He notices anxiety in himself when things are off and uses that as a signal to change behavior or environment.
    • Outdoor time, sunlight, physical challenge, close friendships, and honest vulnerability are his main coping tools.
    • His Be Military Fit (BMF) business creates a ‘tribe’ of veterans and civilians training outdoors together, blending physical and mental resilience.
  11. 1:36:00 – 1:47:00

    Darkest Moments: Broken Back, Bereavement, And Marriage Under Strain

    Bear opens up about two of his darkest periods: breaking his back in the military and losing both his and his wife’s fathers within ten weeks early in their marriage. He shows how those traumas seeded later opportunities and deepened the bond with his wife.

    • A parachuting accident broke his back in three places, leaving him in excruciating pain and ending his military career.
    • Losing his physical strength and job identity forced him into an existential ‘What am I going to do with my life?’ crisis.
    • He believes that without that injury he might never have had the drive to attempt Everest, which later opened the TV path.
    • Both he and his wife lost their fathers within ten weeks during their first year of marriage, removing their parental ‘safety net.’
    • The shared grief created huge pain but also forged deep trust, vulnerability, and long‑term closeness in their relationship.
  12. 1:47:00 – 1:58:00

    Parents, Gratitude, And Saying The Awkward Things Now

    Prompted by Steven’s fears about not appreciating his father enough, Bear urges expressing gratitude before it’s too late. He shares what he would tell his own late father and underscores the power of saying difficult, emotional things despite British awkwardness.

    • Bear regrets never explicitly thanking his father for life‑defining lessons about kindness, resilience, and following dreams.
    • He encourages Steven to tell his dad now instead of assuming there will always be time.
    • He recounts a story of a friend telling his very English dad ‘I love you’ and being asked, ‘You been drinking?’—but insists it still meant a lot.
    • Bear tries to consciously thank friends and mentors (like his former patrol commander) for their belief and impact.
    • He argues that the most awkward conversations—gratitude, love, affirmation—are often the most important.
  13. 1:58:00 – 2:10:00

    Marriage, Saving Your Best, And Redrawing The Work–Family Line

    The focus shifts to Bear’s marriage, fatherhood, and the subtle ways success can erode home life. He talks about saving his ‘best self’ for his wife and kids, learning from periods where he prioritized TV work, and building his career to regain control of his schedule.

    • Bear wants his wife to be able to say he was loyal, kind, and fought for the family.
    • He likens special relationships to stained glass: beautiful but fragile and in need of protection.
    • Modern culture often leads people to perform their best at work or social events while giving their family the tired, grumpy leftovers.
    • In early TV years, network pressure and constant travel led him to neglect family time, causing damage and later regret.
    • Owning his formats and production allowed him to say no to big opportunities that clashed with key family moments.
    • He suggests shifting your internal ‘line’ closer to family so that inevitable compromises still leave you net‑positive at home.
  14. 2:10:00

    Scouts, Legacy, And An Open‑Ended Mission

    In the final stretch, Bear discusses his role as Chief Scout and his broader mission beyond television. He describes the Scouts as a powerful global force for good and frames his career as an ongoing effort to empower others to find their own adventures.

    • As Chief Scout, Bear sees himself as one small cog in a 55‑million‑strong youth movement focused on kindness, respect, humility, and life skills.
    • He sums up his job in three words: ‘encourage, encourage, encourage.’
    • Scouts are leading on climate action and serving in refugee camps and disaster zones worldwide.
    • Outside TV, he’s invested in ventures like Be Military Fit, adventure parks, and educational initiatives, all aligned with his adventure/empowerment mission.
    • He doesn’t see his career as ‘complete’ and hopes never to feel finished; his ‘bucket list gets longer’ as he finds more ways to help people be braver.
    • He envisions aging while still adventuring with kids and grandkids, maintaining an ‘adventurous state of mind’ until he ‘skids in sideways, covered in scars, screaming, “Yahoo, what a ride.”’

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