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Why hookup culture splits feminists on freedom and risk

How the Pill and the sexual revolution rewrote work and family; the panel splits on whether hookup culture and daycare empower or harm women.

Erica KomisarguestLouise PerryguestSteven BartletthostDeborah Frances-Whiteguest
Jun 19, 20252h 27mWatch on YouTube ↗

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June 19, 2025
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2h 27m
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The Diary of a CEO
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Has modern feminism betrayed the very women it promised to empower? Deborah France-White (Guilty Feminist), Louise Perry, and Erica Komisar go head-to-head on sexual freedom. Deborah Frances-White is a bestselling author and host of The Guilty Feminist podcast, Louise Perry is a journalist and author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, and Erica Komisar is a clinical social worker, psychoanalyst, and author of books such as, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn't Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’. ◽️ In this heated debate, they discuss: ◽️ What casual sex is really doing to women. ◽️ Why relationships are declining. ◽️ The parenting crisis that no one’s talking about. ◽️ Why fewer people are having children. ◽️ How modern dating is affecting female self-worth. — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:14 Introducing the Panel 03:28 What Is the Sexual Revolution? 10:01 Autonomy, Freedom, and Agency as a Byproduct of the Sexual Revolution 14:48 Casual Sex and Hookup Culture 30:47 One Sexual Partner for Life 33:00 Age of Marriage Increasing Over Time 33:40 Emotional Consequences of Sex 39:36 Feminists Typically Have Had Trauma 43:13 Agency as a Personality Trait 47:27 Sex Education in Schools 49:19 Female Pleasure 51:12 Is Sexual Freedom Making Us Happy? 53:36 Feeling Bullied by the Narrative of Freedom 57:29 Ads 59:32 Manosphere and Tradwives 01:06:55 Do Women Want Men to Be Providers? 01:07:46 Children and Gender Roles 01:12:08 Poor Mothers Looking After Children 01:18:17 The Role Feminism Has Had on Motherhood 01:22:20 Would Steven Take 3 Years Off Work to Raise Children? 01:23:28 Men and Women's Nurturing Hormones 01:27:57 We Can't Be Neutral About Policies 01:30:24 The Narrative That Having Children Is Miserable 01:32:12 Female Guilt 01:33:20 Parenthood and Narcissism 01:41:27 Birth Rates Declining 01:42:51 Traditional Gender Roles 01:48:29 Demonizing Feminism 01:52:38 Link Between Political Stance and Number of Children 01:56:48 Ads 01:58:33 Pornography 02:06:02 Masculine Virtues 02:11:16 Do Boys and Girls Need to Be Parented Differently? 02:12:45 Chivalry 02:13:50 Evolutionary Differences 02:19:05 Quotas in Education 02:21:02 Final Thoughts Deborah: ◽️ Instagram - https://bit.ly/3ZZFB39 ◽️ Deborah’s book, ‘Six Conversations We’re Too Scared To Have’, here: https://bit.ly/45ufBAh Follow Erica: ◽️ Instagram - https://bit.ly/4lchbvi ◽️ Erica’s book, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn’t Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’, here: https://bit.ly/3G2OhyI Follow Louise: ◽️ X - https://bit.ly/3I1aHRu ◽️ Louise’s book, ‘The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century’, here: https://bit.ly/4kN5QSD The Diary Of A CEO: ◽️ Join DOAC circle here -https://doaccircle.com/ ◽️ The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt ◽️ The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb ◽️ Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt ◽️ Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Stan Store - Visit https://link.stan.store/joinstanchallenge to join the challenge! KetoneIQ - Visit https://ketone.com/STEVEN for 30% off your subscription order

SPEAKERS

  • Erica Komisar

    guest
  • Narrator

    other
  • Louise Perry

    guest
  • Steven Bartlett

    host
  • Deborah Frances-White

    guest

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Diary of a CEO, featuring Erica Komisar and Narrator, Why hookup culture splits feminists on freedom and risk explores feminism, Motherhood, And Men: Rethinking Freedom After Sexual Revolution Three women with sharply differing feminist perspectives debate how the sexual revolution reshaped sex, relationships, work, motherhood, and men’s roles. Maternal feminists Louise and Erica argue that liberal feminism overvalued careers and casual sex while devaluing motherhood, attachment, and structure, especially for children and young adults. Deborah defends feminism as the force that gave women agency, autonomy, and legal rights, warning that blaming feminism obscures capitalism, policy failures, and rising far‑right threats. Across topics—hookup culture, daycare, porn, declining marriage and birth rates, and struggling young men—they clash over whether we need more rules and role differentiation or more individual choice and better education.

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