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How I Taught Millions Of Women The Most Important Skill: Girls Who Code Founder: Reshma Saujani

This episode is part of our USA series, over the coming weeks you will get to see some incredible conversations with guests the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Bringing more value, more incredible stories, and more world-beating expertise. Reshma is the founder of Girls Who Code, one of the most influential non-profits in the world which has introduced millions of women to coding and the tech industry. She is also the author of Pay Up, a book about how to get women further in the workplace. Topics 0:00 Intro 01:38 Growing up as an immigrant 13:10 University dept 18:23 Running for congress 27:54 Starting Girls Who Code 36:20 The difficult parts of building girls who code 41:38 What would you have done differently? 48:18 Fixing the system not the women 56:21 How is your mental health? 01:00:46 How do you decide what to say yes or no to? 01:03:30 Empowering women in a practical way 01:09:01 What does success look like in your future? 01:13:45 The last guests question Reshma: https://www.instagram.com/reshmasaujani/ https://twitter.com/reshmasaujani Reshma’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pay-Up-Future-Women-Different/dp/1982191570 Girls Who Code: https://girlswhocode.com/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT... FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-ba... Sponsors: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven Myenergi - https://bit.ly/3oeWGnl Vodafone Business - https://bit.ly/3NIM35n https://bit.ly/3AuPKsA Location courtesy of The Nightfall Group: www.nightfallgroup.com

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

From Bullying To Billion-Scale Impact: Reshma Saujani Rewrites Power

  1. Reshma Saujani, founder of Girls Who Code and author of *Pay Up*, traces her journey from a bullied immigrant kid in the American Midwest to a movement-builder who has taught nearly half a million girls to code. She explains how childhood racism, crushing student debt, and two failed political campaigns forged her grit and sharpened her sense of purpose. Reshma details the rise of Girls Who Code, including its cultural strategy to make coding aspirational for diverse girls worldwide, and candidly shares the personal costs—repeated miscarriages, burnout, and perfectionism—of building a global social enterprise. She then pivots to her new mission: moving from “fixing women” to fixing systems, arguing for childcare, paid leave, cultural change around motherhood, and a redefinition of leadership and risk.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Trauma and exclusion can be transformed into long-term purpose and activism.

Reshma’s house was vandalized with “Go back to your own country,” and she was violently beaten at 13 for being Brown. Watching her father quietly scrub racist graffiti and refuse to complain convinced her she would never be silent. That moment catalyzed her identity: she led a march at 13, founded her first prejudice-reduction group, and ultimately built large-scale movements like Girls Who Code. Practically, she shows how reframing painful experiences—from something to suppress into fuel for advocacy—can set a lifelong mission.

Credentials open doors, but they also trap people in misaligned careers.

Determined to gain credibility as a woman of color, Reshma applied to Yale Law School three times, eventually earning degrees from Yale and Harvard—and about $300,000 in debt. That debt forced her into a high-paying Wall Street law job instead of civil rights work, leaving her miserable and stuck for a decade. Her story underlines a trade-off: elite credentials can grant access and insight into power structures, but without conscious planning the financial burden can delay or derail purpose-driven work.

Public failure, if processed deliberately, becomes a training ground for entrepreneurship.

Running for Congress at 33 against a powerful incumbent, Reshma faced smear campaigns, racism, and media trivialization (the New York Times profiled her shoes instead of her policies) before losing “spectacularly.” She let herself grieve intensely for about a month, then forced a structured post‑mortem—reviewing mistakes, reading her father’s brutal feedback email, and extracting lessons. She points out that campaigns mirror startups: hiring, fundraising, messaging, and shutting down fast. Using those skills and the ‘chip on her shoulder,’ she then launched Girls Who Code.

Girls become interested in coding when it’s tied to purpose and culture change, not just skills.

When Reshma started, only 0.4% of girls were interested in coding and most imagined a lone white male ‘brogrammer’ in a basement. Girls Who Code embedded learning inside tech companies, anchored projects to social impact (build something that changes your community), and made alumni seed local clubs. This produced 10,000 clubs worldwide and nearly half a million girls through programs. Parallel cultural work—books, media, campaigns like a Doja Cat collab—helped make “girl coder” a cool, visible archetype. The model: meet young people where they are socially and culturally, not just academically.

Evangelical, “all-in” leadership can scale missions—but easily crosses into self-neglect and burnout.

Reshma describes Girls Who Code as her religion and admits she expected similar devotion from staff, often getting the praise–criticism balance wrong and assuming others viewed the job as a calling. At the same time, she worked unsustainably: flying constantly, taking red-eyes, and refusing to cancel key events even immediately after being told a pregnancy had no heartbeat. In hindsight, she sees this as a toxic blend of girlboss culture and martyrdom. Her correction: hire people smarter than you, reward and protect them, and treat your own health as non-negotiable infrastructure, not a luxury.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I remember watching him and thinking, ‘I will never be like him. I will never be silent. I will never not fight.’

Reshma Saujani

Here I was, 2008, the world is falling apart, and I'm sitting in a fricking hedge fund as a lawyer. I'm so far away from that little girl who's staring at the clouds.

Reshma Saujani

I wasn't gonna let failure break me.

Reshma Saujani

When I started Girls Who Code, 0.4% of girls were interested in coding… and then we ended up with 10,000 Girls Who Code clubs.

Reshma Saujani

I've been selling this lie for the past 10 years… that the problem is you, and if you just fix yourself, you can have equality.

Reshma Saujani

Immigrant upbringing, racism, and early political awakeningElite education, debt, and misaligned career pathsRunning for office, public failure, and learning entrepreneurshipFounding and scaling Girls Who Code into a global movementLeadership style, culture-building, and burnout as a social entrepreneurMiscarriages, motherhood, and the hidden personal costs of successSystemic change for women and mothers: childcare, work culture, and feminism

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