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Krept: From Rapper To Building A £17.5 Million Baby Business! | E164

Krept is a rapper and one half of the the iconic rap duo Krept and Konan. The host of the Rap Game, Krept is a star of our tv screens as well as the recording studio. And with his multiple business successes, Krept has built empires from scratch in multiple areas of his life. Topics: Topics: 0:00 Inro 03:11 Early years 10:32 Could you see how things could have gone a different way? 17:16 Mental mental health 19:51 Nash - Krept and Konan 28:42 Finding out about Nash 37:51 How are you feeling? 42:18 When was it when everything changed for you? 50:12 Your relationship with money 57:08 The Hiphop culture making people want to spend money 01:06:00 Nala's baby 01:18:06 What have you learnt from Nala’s baby 01:25:20 Being attacked backstage 01:27:17 Cadet’s death 01:45:53 The last guests question Krept: https://www.instagram.com/kreptplaydirty/?hl=en Nala’s baby: https://nalasbaby.com/ Our new apparel line: https://thedoac.com/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT... FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenbartlett-123 Sponsors: BlueJeans - https://www.bluejeans.com/ Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven

KreptguestSteven Bartletthost
Jul 27, 20221h 47mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

From South London Streets To £17.5m Baby Brand Trailblazer

  1. Rapper Krept (Casyo Johnson) charts his journey from gang-exposed South London youth to successful musician and co‑founder of £17.5m baby skincare brand, Nala’s Baby. He details pivotal sliding‑door moments: choosing music over violent retaliation, rebuilding after business trauma, and learning to navigate grief after losing his best friend Nash and cousin Cadet. The conversation explores masculinity and mental health, money traps in hip‑hop culture, and the brutal realities of the restaurant business versus building a scalable consumer brand. Throughout, Krept emphasizes over‑delivering on opportunities, surrounding yourself with experts, and refusing to be limited by labels or background.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Sliding‑door decisions can permanently redirect your life trajectory.

After Konan’s stepdad was killed and his mum was shot, Krept and friends sat in a car and consciously chose to focus on music instead of retaliating. The very next release (their ‘Otis’ cover) went viral, leading to Skepta’s tour offer and a professional music career. He stresses that acting on temporary emotions (revenge) could have produced a permanent, destructive outcome.

Over‑delivering on small opportunities creates cascading ‘domino effects’.

Krept and Konan treated an Apple radio show like a flagship production—booking high‑profile guests, adding games, and making it genuinely entertaining despite being paid the same as everyone else. That extra effort turned six planned episodes into ~36, built their media reputation, and led to BBC’s ‘The Rap Game’ TV opportunity. He argues most people only meet the brief; few intentionally exceed it to unlock the next level.

Business trauma can and should harden your due‑diligence instincts, not kill your ambition.

Crepes & Cones nearly broke him: disappearing builders, overcharging middlemen, staff unreliability, theft, emotional overload and COVID all hit at once—on top of Nash’s suicide days before launch. He now interrogates every quote, gets multiple comparisons and ‘double‑checks everything’, using that painful experience to become a much more rigorous, self‑protective operator instead of walking away from business entirely.

Suppressing grief and emotions is a common male coping strategy—but it carries long‑term risk.

Krept admits his default is to stay on a ‘treadmill’: work until he’s exhausted, sleep, repeat—never sitting still long enough to fully process the deaths of Nash, Cadet and his uncle. He recognises this has made him colder, quick to cut people off to avoid additional pain, and that therapy would likely force him to confront feelings he’s been running from. He uses Nash’s suicide, which showed no obvious signs, to argue that Black men especially must talk, be vulnerable, and normalise therapy.

Don’t let early money force you into lifestyle inflation; the silent costs will crush you.

Both Stephen and Krept describe destroying their credit with student overdrafts and impulsive spending when they first got money. Krept advises young earners to keep their lifestyle as close as possible to how they were already living, because recurring costs—rent, car payments, bills, holidays, handouts—quietly erode wealth. He acknowledges hip‑hop culture glamorises chains and bottles, but urges artists to limit the ‘starter pack’ and allocate serious capital to assets, investments and ventures.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We can either go and retaliate or we take this music thing seriously and actually try to make it out of where we're coming from.

Krept

Just for temporary feelings, you know, a decision you can make can make a permanent outcome.

Krept

You should always feel uncomfortable, almost like you shouldn't be here. And that's the growth room, man.

Krept

If this was a millimeter deeper, then it would've been a different scenario.

Krept (recalling paramedics after the backstage stabbing)

You'd never put a rapper launching a baby skincare line in the same sentence.

Krept

Growing up amid gangs, violence, and family instability in South LondonPivotal decision to pursue music after Konan’s family was shotGrief, masculinity, and the stigma around mental health and therapyLaunching and struggling with Crepes & Cones restaurantMoney, credit traps, and financial literacy in hip‑hop cultureBuilding and scaling Nala’s Baby into a £17.5m brand with BootsImportance of people, team selection, and over‑delivering on opportunities

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