Skip to content
The Diary of a CEOThe Diary of a CEO

Maisie Williams: The Painful Past Of A Game Of Thrones Star | E181

Maisie Williams is one of the biggest actors in the world today. One of the breakout stars of Game of Thrones, Maisie hasn’t known a normal life since she was 11 years old when she was cast in the biggest tv show in the world. Topics: 0:00 Intro 02:03 Early years 19:52 How do you feel about your father now? 23:38 Did you always think you were wrong growing up? 30:13 Acting took me out of my real world 34:42 Dealing with fame 42:29 Your identity after game of thrones 54:03 Would you erase any areas of your life? 56:46 Are you able to say nice things about yourself now? 01:00:09 Issues with substance abuse 01:03:58 Romantic love 01:09:43 Who are you now? 01:16:36 What does success in the next 10 years look like for you? 01:21:05 Your personality is very different now 01:28:39 Were you nervous about coming here and opening up? 01:31:58 Why we are all artists 01:38:20 Nothing is a waste of time 01:42:43 The last guests question Maisie: https://www.instagram.com/maisie_williams/ https://twitter.com/Maisie_Williams Maisie recommends this website if you need to talk to someone, it has got her through some of her worst days: https://www.7cups.com/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: Huel - https://g2ul0.app.link/wjmvak5nAsb Craftd - https://g2ul0.app.link/gZ8in6Dsvsb

Maisie WilliamsguestSteven Bartletthost
Sep 25, 20221h 52mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Maisie Williams Confronts Childhood Trauma, Fame, Healing, And True Joy

  1. Maisie Williams opens up about a deeply traumatic childhood marked by an abusive father, chronic anxiety, and a lifelong struggle to feel joy or safety. She explains how a perceptive teacher and her mother’s intervention “flipped” her world, while also leaving complex feelings of loyalty, guilt, and confusion.
  2. Becoming globally famous at 12 on Game of Thrones gave her financial security but did not resolve her internal pain, self‑hatred, or identity struggles; in some ways, it intensified them. She describes how acting, creativity, and later meditation and spirituality became core tools for processing trauma and finding moments of freedom.
  3. Now 25, Maisie reflects on learning to separate her worth from her past, reframe her father with curiosity rather than blame, soften self-sabotaging patterns in relationships, and embrace a quieter, more authentic self. She also wrestles with privilege, money, and a desire to help more people live creatively fulfilled lives.
  4. The conversation is raw, emotional, and unusually candid, moving from childhood abuse and cult-like dynamics to fame, substance use, ADHD, therapy, romantic love, and the ongoing, non-linear nature of healing and self-acceptance.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Early trauma can shape identity and anxiety long before you recognize it as ‘wrong’.

Maisie describes growing up with an abusive father, chronic insomnia, and a constant sense of impending doom. As a child she normalized the environment, believing the problem was her, not the situation. Only when a teacher asked very specific questions about basic needs (like breakfast) at age eight did adults fully see what was happening. This illustrates how children often lack the framework to label abuse, and how crucial it is for adults to ask concrete, practical questions rather than vague ones like “Are you okay?”

Awareness of emotional ‘patterns’ is the first step to rewiring them.

She talks about learning to catch micro-moments where she suddenly feels anger, shame, or the urge to shout, then mentally tracing back: “Why did that make me feel so unsafe?” That metacognitive step—spotting the trigger, naming the feeling, and working backwards—is how she began to ‘re-wire’ her responses. Rather than expecting to erase trauma, she treats each triggered episode as data for understanding and slowly reshaping habits.

Acting and creative expression can serve as powerful, structured outlets for pain.

Performing—first through dance, then acting—was the only time she felt the free, embodied joy she saw in other children. Acting allowed her to channel real confusion, rage, and grief into fictional scenarios with no real-world consequence. She could experience intense emotions “in every fibre” of her being while knowing it was safe and ‘pretend’. This validates research she references (e.g. The Body Keeps the Score) on movement, embodiment, and role-play as effective tools in trauma recovery.

Fame and money solve practical problems but don’t fix internal wounds.

Despite being “set for life” at 12, she emphasizes that financial security didn’t resolve her anxiety, trauma, or self-hatred. It removed one major stressor—money—but left the deeper existential and emotional issues untouched. She wrestles with guilt and ‘mindset privilege’, feeling alienated from peers who struggle with rent and basic security, while also realizing that no amount of wealth can purchase self-worth or undo childhood pain.

Healing involves separating your inherent worth from others’ harmful behavior.

For years she believed her father’s mistreatment meant something was inherently wrong with her. A major shift came from deciding to “stop taking things personally” at the deepest level: imagining that if she hadn’t been there, the abuse would simply have fallen on someone else. That reframing allowed her to see him as a damaged, complex person—almost a “fascinating documentary subject”—rather than a mirror of her own defectiveness, easing shame and enabling curiosity instead of self-blame.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I would look around at other kids and be like, ‘Where does the joy… when does that come for me?’

Maisie Williams

I had so many people who loved and cared about me so much, but I’d never been asked the right questions where I could really say what was wrong.

Maisie Williams

What if I said that it wasn’t because of me that that happened… it could’ve been literally anyone experiencing that pain and it would still be the same?

Maisie Williams

Money won’t take the pain away… you can’t buy trauma away.

Maisie Williams

It will never be erased, because it’s a vital part of who you are… without it you would be an entirely different person.

Maisie Williams

Childhood trauma, abuse, and early emotional developmentAnxiety, identity, and the impact of fame at a young ageActing, creativity, and art as emotional processing and escapeSelf-worth, self-hatred, and perfectionismTherapy, meditation, spirituality, and healing practicesRelationships, attachment patterns, and romantic lovePrivilege, money, and enabling creative lives for others

High quality AI-generated summary created from speaker-labeled transcript.

Get more out of YouTube videos.

High quality summaries for YouTube videos. Accurate transcripts to search & find moments. Powered by ChatGPT & Claude AI.

Add to Chrome