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Mary Portas: How To Stop Living A Life That Isn't True To You | E85

This weeks episode entitled 'Mary Portas: How To Stop Living A Life That Isn't True To You' topics: 0:00 Intro 3:24 Your early years 14:26 Your most painful moments 25:30 Remote working 37:15 Losing myself in the madness 48:22 Labelling your sexuality 51:05 Listing to your intuition 53:48 Advice for the younger generation 59:43 So you don’t get excited either? 01:06:37 Making businesses kinder 01:13:54 What does it mean for businesses to be kinder? 01:18:15 Meditation 01:19:52 Have you struggled with relationships because of business? Mary’s book - Rebuild: How to thrive in the new Kindness Economy - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08V85WGNK Mary: https://twitter.com/maryportas https://www.instagram.com/maryportasofficial/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsor: https://uk.huel.com/ https://fiverr.com/ceo

Mary PortasguestSteven Bartletthost
Jun 20, 20211h 24mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Mary Portas On Success, Grief, And Finally Living Authentically, Kindly

  1. Mary Portas unpacks the gap between her outward success and inner unhappiness, tracing it back to unprocessed childhood grief, ego-driven achievement, and living as a caricature of herself. She describes how the deaths of her parents, early responsibility, and later fame led her to suppress her sensitivity in favor of a hard‑driving persona.
  2. A turning point came in mid‑life, when exhaustion and daily tears forced her to confront how deeply she was living for ego, status and consumption rather than her true self. Since then, meditation, philosophy, and spiritual inquiry have helped her reconnect with intuition, soften her anger, and redesign both her life and business.
  3. Portas argues for a ‘Kindness Economy’ where companies prioritize people and planet alongside profit, building cultures of connection, compassion and purpose rather than pure growth at any cost. She is especially vocal on the dangers of remote‑only work, toxic consumerism, and social media‑driven status anxiety.
  4. Throughout, she and Steven Bartlett explore grief, intuition, labels, sexuality, work culture, and the quiet moments where real joy lives — offering a candid, often funny, but fundamentally challenging invitation to stop living a life that isn’t true to you.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Unprocessed grief and early responsibility can harden you into a persona that isn’t your true self.

Portas lost her mother at 16 and her father shortly after, was effectively left homeless, and became the de‑facto adult in the family. She describes years of walking to school crying, then smiling on the bus, never receiving help. That pain turned into anger, quick temper, drive, and a 'naughty', fiery identity she mistook for her real self while suppressing a very soft, sensitive core.

Living by ego and external success eventually leads to exhaustion and disconnection.

At 48, with TV shows, a fashion collection, a booming business and public fame, she was crying almost daily. She realized she had become 'brand Mary' — the orange bob, the sharp TV persona, the businesswoman and mother — without ever stopping to breathe or connect with who she truly was. The lesson: unchecked achievement and constant 'more' will strip you of yourself, no matter how glamorous it looks.

Meditation and spiritual inquiry can genuinely change your emotional patterns and resilience.

Portas credits meditation and reading spiritual/philosophical writers (Eckhart Tolle, Rumi, others) with softening her temper and helping her manage pain. Her practice is simple: 10 minutes in the morning and often at night, noticing thoughts and laughing at them, feeling energy in her body, and using a one-word cue — 'pause' — during the day when she feels herself getting triggered.

Intuition is a critical business and life tool, and ignoring it is costly.

She says her biggest mistakes came from overriding her intuition: staying too long in relationships that felt wrong, taking clients she didn’t like because of the money, or letting data and logic override instinct in creative work. Patterns: when she suppressed that 'gut' feeling, things always ended badly. Conversely, her boldest, best ideas — including her vision for fully circular retail spaces — come when she’s free and tuned into that inner sense.

Human connection and physical spaces of community (offices, high streets) are non‑negotiable for wellbeing.

Portas is fiercely critical of remote‑only work as a default cost‑saving move. She argues offices are modern community hubs where trivial interactions — hallway laughs, spontaneous chats, shared coffees — form the 'social infrastructure' that keeps people mentally healthy. Her firm mandates at least two in‑office days and has fought to keep their space open, especially for younger staff working from cramped bedrooms.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I was doing TV shows, radio shows, I had my own collection, I had the business… Oh God, how shit is that life? And I lost me in that.

Mary Portas

We were blind. We were blind consumers living a life while we slowly killed the planet and our wellbeing. So it has to be you guys that go, 'No.'

Mary Portas

I just didn’t stop to truly connect with me. I picked up Eckhart Tolle’s A New Earth and thought, 'Oh my God, I’ve got the world wrong.'

Mary Portas

Think of a time when you’ve never had enough. I’ve had very little money, but I’ve always lived. When has the world never truly looked after you?

Mary Portas

The trivial things are what make up our lives. Take away those little human contacts and we squeeze our souls.

Mary Portas

Childhood, parental loss, and unprocessed griefEgo, public persona, and losing oneself in successCoping with crisis: pandemic, business collapse, and fearRemote work, community, and the social function of officesConsumerism, social media, and status-driven cultureIntuition, spirituality, and meditation as life toolsThe Kindness Economy: redefining business around people and planet

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