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Matthew Hussey: The Secret To Building A Perfect Relationship | E142

This episode is part of our USA series, over the coming weeks you will get to see some incredible conversations with guests the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Bringing more value, more incredible stories, and more world-beating expertise. Matthew Hussey is one of the world’s most renowned experts on relationships and human connection. He’s not only helped thousands of people be more ready to meet the love of their life, but also how to have a meaningful relationship with them when you do. Topics: 0:00 Intro 01:07 Your insecurities 09:55 How do we know when our ego is driving? 22:32 What makes people feel disconnected 27:49 The positive impact of personal responsibility 39:44 The value of lessons learnt from previous trauma 50:58 How to control emotions to bring yourself to a place of peace 00:55:30 Learning to show vulnerabilities 01:05:43 Why do partners try to change us? 01:12:39 Are you scared of being bored in your relationship? 01:18:29 Do we have to be in the right place personally for a successful relationship? 01:29:59 The last guest's question Matthew: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9HGzFGt7BLmWDqooUbWGBg https://www.instagram.com/thematthewhussey/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven Craftd - https://bit.ly/3JKOPFx Location courtesy of The Nightfall Group: www.nightfallgroup.com

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May 12, 20221h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 1:00 – 10:20

    Control, Scarcity, and the Making of an Overachiever

    Hussey recounts his financially unstable childhood, his teenage years DJing instead of partying, and how fear and insecurity fueled a relentless need for control and achievement. He also describes early shyness with girls and how self‑development books opened his eyes to social skills as a learnable craft.

  2. 10:20 – 19:40

    Ego, Achievement, and the Emptiness of Arrival

    The conversation turns to ego, fame, and the psychological crash that can follow big wins. Hussey and Bartlett dissect why external success often leaves people numb or panicked, and Hussey shares how he felt disconnected from his own life even while running a massive dating brand.

  3. 19:40 – 29:40

    Emotional Buttons and Reconnecting to What Matters

    Hussey introduces his concept of 'emotional buttons' and how he systematizes states like peace, motivation, and joy. He explains his morning routine of activating these buttons, the importance of writing things down when you feel good, and how this counters ego‑driven living and autopilot workdays.

  4. 29:40 – 36:00

    Choice, Rat Experiments, and Reframing Your Career

    Using a study with two rats on exercise wheels, Hussey illustrates how choice versus compulsion shapes stress. They link this to career burnout, golden handcuffs, and the illusion that happiness always lies in changing jobs instead of reconnecting with agency in your current role.

  5. 36:00 – 48:40

    Ownership, Confidence, and the Chef vs. Ingredients Analogy

    They examine personal responsibility, victimhood, and the injustices of confidence and privilege. Hussey’s 'Chopped' analogy reframes life’s unequal distributions as ingredient baskets and urges people to focus on becoming better chefs who create extraordinary things despite or even because of their limitations.

  6. 48:40 – 59:00

    Mortality, Chronic Pain, and Learning Self‑Compassion

    Hussey shares an intimate account of chronic head and ear pain that led to his darkest moments and flirtation with suicidal thoughts. He describes the cycles of hope and despair around treatments, how the pain destroyed everyday joy, and the profound humility and empathy he gained by learning to live with what he couldn’t fix.

  7. 59:00 – 1:07:20

    Regulating Emotion: Stress, Illness, and Daily Criteria for a Good Life

    Building on the pain story, Bartlett and Hussey discuss how emotional stress manifests physically and how Hussey adjusts his life on high‑pain days. He then outlines his six daily criteria—create, move, learn, connect, appreciate, contribute—as a minimalist formula for a meaningful life, independent of external metrics.

  8. 1:07:20 – 1:18:20

    Vulnerability, Masculinity, and Being 'Fixable' in Relationships

    The focus shifts to romantic relationships: Hussey explains how Audrey helped him practice real vulnerability after earlier partners had shamed his openness. They discuss how men fear losing their 'alpha' image, how and when to reveal vulnerabilities, and the dynamics of partners trying to 'fix' each other instead of accepting who they chose.

  9. 1:18:20 – 1:24:40

    Alignment, Acceptance, and Curiosity About Differences

    They explore how inauthentic early behavior and unspoken compromises create resentment later in relationships. Hussey advocates genuine curiosity about a partner’s differences—why they love certain activities—before judging them, and highlights how often couples misinterpret the intentions behind each other’s behavior.

  10. 1:24:40 – 1:30:00

    Fear of Boredom, Casual Dating, and Choosing to Build

    Bartlett raises the fear of long‑term boredom, and Hussey contrasts the empty 'hangover' of casual flings with the deeper fulfillment of building with one person. Hussey emphasizes that chemistry still matters, but that stacking bricks in one place (rather than constantly resetting) is what creates lasting meaning.

  11. 1:30:00 – 1:40:00

    Timing, Self‑Work, and the Myth of 'The One'

    They discuss whether success in love is just about 'meeting the right person' or also being the right person at the right time. Hussey disassembles the soulmate narrative, reframes commitment as an active creation process, and introduces the powerful distinction between 'settling for' and 'settling on'.

  12. 1:40:00

    Dark Side, Trust, and Letting People Be Kind

    In the final segment, Hussey answers a question from the previous guest about his 'dark side.' He identifies his deep suspicion that everyone has an agenda and shares how genuine friendships and acts of generosity—especially during his health crisis—have helped dissolve this belief and taught him to trust more.

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