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Professor Green: How To Overcome Life’s Hardest Challenges & Find A Purpose | E80

This weeks episode entitled 'Professor Green - How To Overcome Life’s Hardest Challenges & Find A Purpose.' topics: 0:00 Intro 02:45 Most pivotal moments from your early years 21:07 Becoming self-aware - getting older 29:47 Your dads suicide - mental health 45:35 The last conversation you had with your dad 55:33 Finding success and leaving people behind 01:01:34 Getting stabbed in the neck 01:13:35 How did you manage to make it over others? 01:21:33 Your new phase of life 01:26:36 How have you found the business world Stephen (Professor Green): https://www.instagram.com/professorgreen/ https://twitter.com/professorgreen Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: https://uk.huel.com/ https://fiverr.com/ceo

Steven BartletthostProfessor Green (Stephen Manderson)guest
May 9, 20211h 35mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Professor Green On Trauma, Therapy, Fatherhood, And Finding Real Peace

  1. Professor Green (Stephen Manderson) shares an unflinchingly honest account of growing up amid generational trauma, poverty, abandonment and violence, and how these experiences shaped his mental health and identity. He explains how therapy, self‑reflection and actively ‘unlearning’ inherited patterns allowed him to move from bitterness and anxiety to a more grounded happiness and emotional resilience. The conversation ranges from his father’s suicide, being stabbed, career struggles and survivor’s guilt, to his new roles as father, entrepreneur and returning recording artist. Throughout, he offers practical insight into anxiety, gut health, resilience, boundaries, and why men must learn to be vulnerable without seeing themselves as victims.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Trauma is often cumulative, not a single event – and so is healing.

Manderson stresses that the most damaging experiences weren’t isolated incidents but a constant drip of instability: his father drifting in and out, arguments over money, generational conflict between the women in his family, and repeated disappointments. Likewise, what shaped the ‘good’ in him was cumulative too: years of daily nurturing and learning with his great‑grandmother. This lens helps reframe both pain and progress as long‑term processes rather than one‑off turning points.

Anxiety frequently manifests physically, especially in the gut, and needs proactive care.

As a child, he constantly complained of stomach aches and underwent invasive tests because of an early digestive condition and later IBS. Only much later did he realize that the ‘knot’ in his stomach was often anxiety. He describes how diet, movement, sleep and stress all interact with gut health, and how consistently improving gut care significantly stabilized his mood, energy, and sleep. His gut‑health brand A Gulp is built on feeding beneficial gut bacteria and supporting the gut lining, framed as proactive health rather than crisis response.

Letting go of bitterness requires compassion for others’ limitations without needing their validation.

Manderson explains that he reached a liberating point when he became compassionate not just toward his mother but toward everyone involved in his upbringing. Many of them still cling to self‑justifying narratives and can’t face their own mistakes, and he no longer expects them to. Instead of waiting for apologies, explanations or ‘closure’, he focuses on what he can control: his own reactions and boundaries. This shift allowed him to stop living in resentment and avoid repeating those patterns with his own son.

Resilience is built before crises, through honest self‑examination and, often, therapy.

He argues that resilience isn’t just surviving trauma; it’s the skill of tolerating how you feel without being overwhelmed. Waiting for a breakdown before starting therapy is like waiting to get seriously ill before ever seeing a doctor. He began by noticing patterns—defensiveness, an inability to finish things, repeatedly choosing similar partners—and acknowledging that he was the ‘common denominator’. Therapy then helped him explore his darkest insecurities honestly, understand his triggers, and transform anxiety into usable ‘nervous energy’ instead of paralysis.

‘Closure’ is a choice you give yourself, not something others grant.

On both family and romantic relationships, Manderson and Bartlett dismantle the idea that you must wait for explanations or apologies to move on. They frame the demand for closure as handing someone else the ‘keys’ to your self‑esteem. In practice, closure often means accepting you may never fully understand another person’s actions, deciding to stop seeking justification, and ‘closing the door’ yourself so you’re no longer emotionally hostage to their behaviour.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I can’t keep projecting my problems onto other people and blaming them. I’ve gotta do some work on myself here. Things need to change, and one thing needs to change: me.

Professor Green

Holding on to anger… becomes resentment, and that leads to bitterness, and bitter is not something I’m interested in being.

Professor Green

You push things down, they come at you sideways.

Professor Green

If you need closure, close the door.

Professor Green

I used to think becoming a successful musician would just make me happy and absolve me of everything in my past. What a stupid fucking idea that was.

Professor Green

Childhood, generational trauma and being raised by his grandmother/great‑grandmotherAnxiety, gut health, IBS and the gut–brain connectionAbsent parents, his father’s suicide and understanding suicidal ideationTherapy, unlearning defensive patterns and building resilienceBitterness, forgiveness, closure and setting boundaries in relationshipsViolence, being stabbed, the legal aftermath and street ‘codes’Career journey, persistence in music, new fatherhood and entrepreneurship (A Gulp)

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