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She Cheated On Me and Thats Not All - Dr. Aria | E56

The topics we talk about in this weeks episode titled - 'She Cheated On Me and Thats Not All - with Dr. Aria': 0:00 Intro 1:10 The Story 14:19 Processing the emotions 41:19 Adapting my opinion of marriage and monogamy 01:00:04 How I Lost an intrinsic part of who I was 01:07:57 My Ideal relationship structure 01:23:00 Why unhappiness stems from conformity 01:40:42 Outro Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ZqNiWb7GMap7jUVXKS3I6?si=uiz2b-h4QbaDxWJI2HKBsA Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/e56-she-cheated-on-me-and-thats-not-all-with-dr-aria/id1291423644?i=1000497733261 My book pre-order: (UK, US, AUS, NZ Link) - http://hyperurl.co/xenkw2 (EU & Rest of the World Link) https://www.bookdepository.com/Happy-Sexy-Millionaire-Steven-Bartlett/9781529301496?ref=grid-view&qid=1610300058833&sr=1-2 Special thanks to my good friend Dr. Aria, you can find him at: Instagram - @dr._aria Website - dr-aria.com Sponsor - https://uk.huel.com/

Steven BartletthostDr. Ariaguest
Nov 9, 20201h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 3:30 – 7:50

    The Shock: Affair Revealed and Life Shattered

    Dr. Aria recounts the car journey home where his wife abandoned their brunch plans to confess she’d been having an affair with a colleague and was pregnant with his child. He describes the instant collapse of his sense of identity and future—losing not just a partner, but the life, home, and family system that defined meaning for him.

    • Wife diverts from planned brunch, insists on going home because she has “something to tell” him.
    • In the car she refuses his touch, saying he won’t want her after he hears what happened.
    • At home she reveals the affair and pregnancy; he feels motionless as tears stream down.
    • He experiences the news as losing his wife, home, in‑laws, dog, and envisioned future all at once.
    • Two weeks later he records a previous Diary of a CEO episode where Steven unknowingly asks about cheating and monogamy.
  2. 7:50 – 12:20

    Eye of the Hurricane: Inner Stillness Amid Catastrophe

    Despite the devastation, Aria explains why he appeared eerily calm when first discussing betrayal on the earlier podcast. Drawing on years of Buddhist practice and psychological work, he frames his approach as standing in the ‘center of the hurricane’—feeling pain fully while anchored in a deeper certainty that he will ultimately be okay.

    • Shares a life philosophy of cultivating stillness at the center of life’s storms.
    • Describes an inner voice repeating “All will be well” immediately after the revelation.
    • Credits 10–15 years of spiritual and psychological work for that inner resource.
    • Explains viewing his experiences as if happening to someone else to gain perspective.
    • Holds simultaneous compassion that both he and his ex-wife will face a hard road but be okay.
  3. 12:20 – 18:00

    Sadness, Not Rage: Love, Empathy, and the Missing Anger

    Steven challenges how Aria’s first concern was his wife’s wellbeing rather than his own. Aria unpacks why overwhelming sadness—about her likely regret and their shared loss—dominated his initial reaction, while anger only flared briefly when his ego felt threatened.

    • He was habituated to prioritising his wife’s emotional wellbeing at least equal to his own.
    • Initial dominant emotion was profound sadness and loss, not fury.
    • Describes one intense night of rage where he paced shouting “My wife, my house” for minutes.
    • Later realises anger arose when he fused the situation with his ego and notions of ownership.
    • Highlights how seeing partners as “mine” amplifies suffering; detaching from that eased anger.
  4. 18:00 – 24:30

    Grief Work: A Step-by-Step Process to Survive Betrayal

    Prompted by Steven, Aria outlines the deliberate process he used to move from raw shock to functional acceptance. It centres on allowing emotions, dismantling false narratives about the relationship, and architecting guidelines for how he wanted to behave through the crisis.

    • Warns that bypassing or boxing away pain leads to it “biting you later.”
    • Commits to living only one moment at a time, avoiding overwhelm by distant worries.
    • Step 1: Awareness and acceptance—letting sadness, tears, and mood swings fully surface.
    • Step 2: Reality reminders—consciously dismantling his internal story of a lifelong, faithful marriage.
    • Writes down facts (“It’s over. There’s no going back”) and perspective insights.
    • Defines success as maintaining integrity, not speed of recovery.
  5. 24:30 – 29:30

    Using Written Principles to Outthink Your Future Self

    Aria reads from the notes he wrote during calm periods to steer himself when emotions spiked. These mantras helped him reject undeserved guilt, resist vengeful behaviour, and stay aligned with his spiritual frame that suffering can be a catalyst for growth.

    • Examples of notes: “Hold yourself to the highest standard,” “You aren’t responsible,” “You need nothing from her anymore.”
    • He only wrote these in moments of clarity and wisdom, then revisited them when triggered.
    • Uses these notes as a ‘best friend’ when his mind tries to create shame or self-blame.
    • Affirms belief that deep suffering can be an opportunity to become stronger, wiser, more compassionate.
    • Frames his standard as being able to look back in 12–18 months with a clear conscience.
  6. 29:30 – 34:10

    The Terrorists in the Cockpit: Ego, Impulse, and Self-Control

    Steven shares his own story of jealousy after an ex slept with someone three days post-breakup, using a metaphor of terrorists hijacking the cockpit of his rational mind. They explore how bruised ego, not love, often drives the urge to lash out—and how to wrestle control back before ‘crashing the plane.’

    • Steven describes wanting revenge and to abandon his integrity after his ego was hurt.
    • He consciously delays action—going for runs, to the gym—to let reason catch up.
    • A friend’s reframing (that his ex was reacting to rejection) soothed his ego and calmed him.
    • They link emotional hijacking to impaired decision-making (“crashing the plane”).
    • Connect this to astronauts training repeatedly so they can stay calm under acute threat.
  7. 34:10 – 38:00

    Dark Thoughts, No Judgment: Redefining Your Relationship to the Mind

    Aria reveals the extremity of some of his thoughts—kidnapping and torturing the other man, imagining suicide—and explains why he didn’t see these as evidence of being evil or broken. Instead he frames them as the mind’s clumsy attempts to escape suffering, which can be safely observed without enacted.

    • He emphasises: “We are not our thoughts; we have thoughts.”
    • Demonstrates automatic thought generation with Steven (“don’t think… birthday”).
    • Describes elaborate revenge fantasies like a Hollywood film, and suicidal ideation without intent.
    • Interprets such thoughts as the mind searching frantically for an exit from pain, not as moral failings.
    • Maintains zero judgment of these thoughts, which prevents shame spirals and impulsive behaviour.
  8. 38:00 – 45:00

    Choosing Forgiveness to ‘Travel Light’ Emotionally

    A year after the breakup, Aria decides he doesn’t want to carry resentment toward his ex or her new partner. He patiently works on genuine forgiveness, particularly for the man he only knows through his worst action, using repeated beach-run affirmations until the emotional knot finally dissolves.

    • He dislikes owning many things, including emotional baggage; wants to be light enough to ‘pass through the eye of a needle.’
    • Recognises forgiveness is largely for his own wellbeing; it may not affect their lives.
    • Finds forgiving his ex relatively easy after understanding how the affair likely emerged.
    • Struggles with forgiving the other man, repeatedly feeling tension when saying “I forgive you… I’m sending you my love.”
    • After 5–6 weeks of practice, he suddenly feels no resistance; he can sincerely wish them and their baby well.
    • Now feels essentially neutral toward them, as if they’re just unknown people on their own journey.
  9. 45:00 – 53:00

    Is Monogamy Natural? Evolution, Agriculture, and the Invention of Marriage

    The discussion zooms out to interrogate monogamy and marriage from evolutionary and historical angles. Aria outlines how prehistoric humans likely lived in egalitarian, sexually sharing bands and how agriculture, private property, and religious institutions later constructed the modern nuclear model—one that is now visibly straining.

    • Explains humans are great apes; for ~95% of our lineage we were hunter-gatherers.
    • Evidence suggests prehistoric groups shared food, childcare—and likely sexual partners—to reinforce group survival.
    • Agriculture introduced land, domesticated animals, private property, and male ‘ownership’ of women.
    • Biological paternity became crucial once property and inheritance mattered.
    • Traces marriage from Mesopotamia (~2350 BC) through Roman/Greek adoption, to Anglo-Saxon trade deals, medieval political alliances, and religious sacrament.
    • Modern legal divorce emerges only in the last ~150 years; liberalised in 1969.
    • Notes falling marriage rates, rising cohabitation, and ~42% divorce rates; questions whether the system is collapsing.
    • Adds cultural data: jokes about sex dying after marriage, high Viagra and porn use, Church sex scandals.
  10. 53:00 – 59:20

    Evolutionary Drives, Ego Hypocrisy, and the Desire for Asymmetrical Freedom

    Steven introduces evolutionary psychology around male jealousy and female need for stable partners, while Aria acknowledges his own double standard: being able to imagine himself non‑monogamous but recoiling at a partner doing the same. They explore how biology and social conditioning intertwine with deep-seated ego reactions.

    • Steven cites theory: men evolved to guard against raising another man’s child; women evolved to secure care during late pregnancy.
    • Aria notes more recent research on group survival and looser notions of paternity in some hunter-gatherer societies.
    • Steven counters with selection logic: even small advantages in securing fertilisation compound over generations.
    • Aria candidly admits he could imagine multiple partners for himself but “hell no” for his partner—recognising the hypocrisy.
    • Both suggest many people likely share this asymmetry but won’t admit it, often out of fear or social desirability.
  11. 59:20 – 1:07:20

    Losing Yourself in Love: Enmeshment, Change, and the Death of Desire

    Turning back to his own marriage, Aria realises he slowly became more like his wife—sensible, safe, and predictable—losing the mischievous, risk‑taking qualities she initially found attractive. He and Steven discuss how “changing” a partner into a safer version of themselves may secure stability yet unintentionally extinguish sexual chemistry.

    • Aria describes their original polarity: she was prudent and grounded; he was spontaneous and a bit dangerous.
    • He believes we often seek in partners the disowned parts of ourselves.
    • Over time he turned into a “sanitised, squeaky-clean” version of himself, losing his inner ‘wild child.’
    • This created a reliable but less erotic bond; he likens desire to a frog slowly boiled away.
    • He regrets not staying truer to his full self, and now sees truthfulness to identity as essential.
    • They critique the cultural trope of “Can I change him?” and warn that over-smoothing rough edges can kill attraction.
  12. 1:07:20 – 1:15:40

    Designing Bespoke Relationships: Space, Commitment, and Living Your Script

    Both men sketch how they now think about future relationships, rejecting off‑the‑shelf marriage scripts in favour of tailored arrangements. They emphasise the need for space, ongoing daily choice, and alignment with personal truth over religious or legal validation.

    • Steven values large amounts of alone time and creative focus; cohabitation 24/7 feels suffocating.
    • He dislikes religion and law having jurisdiction over love; sees their records on love as poor.
    • Advocates treating romantic relationships more like best friendships: deep love plus lots of space.
    • Reiterates Aria’s earlier idea: ask daily, “Am I happy to spend today with this person?” rather than pledging forever abstractly.
    • Aria expects to choose monogamy personally, but with much more space, adventure, and retention of his ‘edge’ (e.g., finally getting a motorbike).
    • Both acknowledge that children will complicate these ideals, and that they’ll need to re‑examine structures then.
    • They frame all this as first-principles thinking—starting from emotional needs and designing from there, not conforming by default.
  13. 1:15:40 – 1:36:59

    Questioning Scripts: First Principles, Success, and Trusting Life’s Detours

    In closing, they broaden the theme of rejecting inherited scripts beyond relationships to education, career, and life paths. Steven describes dropping out of school and university by questioning whether the standard route served his goals, while Aria stresses that life’s unexpected upheavals can be necessary redirections, not failures.

    • Steven argues many people try to answer invalid questions (“Are you in love?”) based on undefined concepts imposed by culture.
    • Urges asking what you actually want emotionally (connection, belonging, freedom, etc.) rather than blindly chasing marriage or titles.
    • Recounts leaving university after one day because it clearly didn’t serve his entrepreneurial aims.
    • Aria agrees each life solution must be bespoke; one-size-fits-all scripts misfit most people.
    • He sees his own betrayal as life shunting him from one track to a more authentic path.
    • Ends with a reflection on mortality and unpredictability—a colleague killed suddenly, a friend’s father’s stroke—arguing for gratitude, presence, and trusting that “the universe is unfolding as it should.”

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