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Tony Bellew: Nothing Made Me Happy Until I Found This | E156

Tony Bellew is a professional boxer and a former British, Commonwealth and World Champion. As well as this, he is also an actor, and the star of Creed with Sylvester Stallone, and the author of last year's bestselling book, Everybody Has A Plan Until They Get Punched in the Face. In this raw, honest and emotional interview, Tony breaks down exactly why people dedicate their life to fighting, and how it’s often because they have no other choice. Topics: 00:00 Intro 01:22 What are the most pivotal moments of your childhood? 09:05 Racism & its impact on you 13:48 Your relationship with your father & his prison years 23:06 Street life & lack of role models 30:36 The death of your first trainer & his prediction of your success 37:49 Becoming a world champion 50:49 How much boxers actually make 56:24: Chimp Paradox 01:00:58 Dealing with grief & depression 01:10:53 How to deal with hard moments 01:19:36 Our last guest's question Tony: https://www.instagram.com/tonybellew/?hl=en https://twitter.com/TonyBellew/ Tony’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Everybody-Plan-Until-They-Punched/dp/1841884707 Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsor: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven Craftd - https://bit.ly/3JKOPFx

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Jun 30, 20221h 25mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 2:00 – 24:10

    Growing Up in Wavertree: A Fighter Is Formed

    Bellew explains how his upbringing in Wavertree, Liverpool, with an absent but adored father, a mixed‑race identity, and a gay younger brother in a hostile 1990s environment, shaped his comfort with violence and protective instincts. He describes stepping into the role of man of the house, finding family in friends, and learning to fight without fear.

    • Father leaves home when Bellew is 10 due to infidelity; heartbreak for his mother but continued emotional support from his dad.
    • Younger brother’s sexuality becomes apparent around 13–14; being gay and Black in mid‑90s Liverpool makes him a target.
    • Bellew violently protects his brother from bullies, including turning up at school in his mum’s car and assaulting threats.
    • Mixed‑race identity leaves him 'not Black enough' for Black peers and 'not white enough' for white peers.
    • He pre‑emptively tells people he’s mixed‑race to block racist 'undertone' comments and will confront racism when it appears.
  2. 24:10 – 35:00

    Crime, Prison, And The Edge Between Two Futures

    Tony recounts his father’s imprisonments and the powerful lesson he learned visiting him, alongside his own expulsion from school and attraction to street life. He makes clear how easily he could have ended up in jail and how boxing became the key alternative.

    • Father jailed first time before Tony’s birth; second time when Tony is ~14–15 for kidnapping and threatening a man who stole £10,000.
    • On a prison visit, his dad calls jail 'the house of failure', a phrase that stays with Tony for life.
    • Tony admits to having done things that could have put him in prison but avoided getting caught.
    • Expelled from school at 15 for violently attacking a boy stabbing him with a compass.
    • At that point, he genuinely expects his future to involve being 'locked up', driven by desire for 'nice things' with no visible legal routes.
  3. 35:00 – 48:40

    Chasing Role Models: Fathers, Friends, And The Boxing Gym

    Bellew explores his deep desire to impress his dad, the lack of professional role models in his area, and the emergence of boxing as his path out. He shares how his father taught him to punch, how early kickboxing knockouts lit a fire, and how later he realised his school friends also broke the mould.

    • Strong need to impress his father and 'go further' than him; dad was a feared hard man who failed at boxing.
    • Initially dreams of being a footballer but lacks the talent to make it; instead discovers a natural gift for punching.
    • Father teaches him proper punching mechanics at 12–13; early kickboxing bouts end in knockouts and disqualifications.
    • He sees that people with 'nice things' in his area are almost all drug dealers; no doctors, solicitors or professionals as local models.
    • Later realises that he and three expelled school friends became a professor, leading sports journalist, pro footballer, and world champion—evidence that potential was there but invisible.
  4. 48:40 – 1:10:00

    Jimmy Albertina And The Life-Saving Power of Amateur Boxing

    Tony recalls meeting legendary Rotunda ABC coach Jimmy Albertina, initially being dismissed, then returning and thriving under his brutally high standards. He explains how Jimmy’s belief, tough love, and the culture of the amateur gym saved lives in their community and set him on a championship path.

    • First visit to Rotunda: Jimmy tells him it’ll be 12–18 months before he fights, so Tony leaves and boxes elsewhere.
    • After early knockout wins and a disqualification, he returns 'tail between his legs'; Jimmy has already identified his talent.
    • Jimmy never praises him directly—after a six‑second KO in a national final, calls it 'fucking shite' to his face—but secretly hails him as a future champion.
    • Jimmy’s death after coming back too soon from a quadruple bypass is Tony’s first major bereavement; he is devastated.
    • Bellew stresses amateur coaches aren’t paid, gyms like Rotunda save countless lives, and there used to be a street 'hierarchy' that respected boxing gyms as safe zones.
  5. 1:10:00 – 1:30:00

    From Street Kid to World Champion: Success Without Security

    Bellew charts his rise through three ABA titles, international amateur representation, and eventually professional world champion, while exposing how little money most fighters make. He details fighting with severe injuries, being financially on the edge, and cannibalising his body to chase a dream.

    • Wins multiple ABA titles and boxes around the world despite having an aggressive, KO‑oriented style not suited to amateur scoring.
    • Explains amateur boxing as a 'beautiful sport' versus professional boxing as a 'brutal, horrible business, not a sport.'
    • Early pro purses around £6,000 are largely eroded by trainer, manager, promoter cuts, expenses, and tax, leaving him nearly skint.
    • Breaks his hand in his fifth pro fight; spends entire purse on Christmas for his kids and can’t afford surgery without help.
    • Describes severe concussion, memory loss, blackouts, auto‑pilot drives from camp, and extreme dieting—'brutalizing' and 'cannibalizing' his body.
  6. 1:30:00 – 2:00:00

    David Haye, Big Money, And The Myth Of The Millionaire Moment

    Tony explains why he targeted David Haye as both a dangerous opponent and a walking pound sign, and how loyalty to Eddie Hearn led him to turn down a £1.6m rival offer. He finally becomes a multimillionaire after the Haye box‑office receipts land, only to feel unexpectedly empty.

    • Sparred Haye years earlier, took the hardest shot of his life without going down, and later dropped Haye—convinced ever since he could beat him.
    • After becoming WBC world champion at Goodison Park, his wife urges him to retire, but he knows they’re 'financially far from security.'
    • Rejects a £1.6m BT Sport offer to fight Haye with suitcase‑cash promised, out of handshake loyalty to Eddie Hearn.
    • Hearn later calls to say the box‑office money has landed and he is now a multimillionaire.
    • Bellew goes to a cash machine to see the zeros; experiences it as an anti‑climax and realises money doesn’t change who he is or bring automatic happiness.
  7. 2:00:00 – 2:20:00

    Ashley’s Death, Hidden Depression, And SAS: Who Dares Wins

    The conversation turns to the sudden death of Bellew’s brother‑in‑law Ashley in Mexico, which he calls the worst moment of his life. He describes leaving his grieving wife to honour the Haye rematch, crying alone every night in camp, and only later recognising on SAS that he was deeply burdened and possibly depressed.

    • Ashley, Rachel’s younger brother and like a brother to Tony, dies abroad on a trip to be a best man; circumstances remain unclear.
    • Bellew focuses more on his wife’s ongoing, unfixable pain than on his own grief; says he thinks about Ashley every day.
    • He regrets going through with the Haye rematch so soon, calling it selfish but bound by his word.
    • In Sheffield camp he spends 12–14 weeks largely alone, crying himself to sleep every night, knowing his wife is doing the same at home.
    • On SAS: Who Dares Wins, through Ant Middleton’s process, he realises he’s not 'completed life' but is carrying unresolved trauma and over‑focusing on 'fixing' his wife’s hurt.
  8. 2:20:00 – 2:30:00

    Walls, Therapy, And The Limits Of Looking Back

    Bellew acknowledges he built a protective wall to survive his early life and admits it’s still there. He remains resistant to therapy and to revisiting his past, arguing he can’t change it, while also learning—through SAS and self‑reflection—that unchecked emotional walls may be costing him.

    • Openly says there are parts of his past he’ll never talk about; sees no point in 'going back there' because it can’t be changed.
    • Admits he previously vowed never to see a psychologist or write a book about his life for that reason.
    • Uses a story about nearly missing a flight to illustrate his philosophy of not stressing over what he can’t control.
    • Simultaneously recognises he still thinks a lot about 'wrong things' and pain, suggesting some unresolved material behind the wall.
    • Sees himself as evolving rather than changing: learning from mistakes but not ready to fully dismantle his emotional defences.
  9. 2:30:00

    After Boxing: Purpose, Imperfect Happiness, And What Really Matters

    In the final segment, Bellew and Bartlett discuss happiness, purpose, social media illusions, and whether anyone ever feels 'complete'. Tony insists that only his wife and children truly matter, admits normal life bores him, and accepts he’ll probably always be chasing something he can’t quite define.

    • Says the only things that truly matter are his wife and kids within the four walls of his house; everything else is secondary.
    • Admits he struggled with retirement, spending a year 'enjoying getting fat' before realising he needs something to focus on.
    • Believes no one is fully, permanently happy; if someone claims to be, he jokes they’re as rare as a unicorn.
    • Recognises the 'insecure kid' in him that still occasionally fixates on expensive cars and higher financial targets.
    • Criticises social media for showing destinations without journeys, promoting illusions of instant success.
    • Says if he had unlimited money, he’d focus on securing his kids’ futures and showing others the journey, insisting he’s 'no one special'—just someone who never gave up.

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