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World Leading Life Coach: 3 Steps To Figuring Out ANYTHING You Want: Marie Forleo | E184

Marie Forleo is a New York Times bestselling author, and the biggest life coach in the world. She offers world leading advice in how to communication in relationships, how to overcome fear, and how to bring a growth mindset to everything that you do. Topics: 0:00 intro 02:08 Early years 05:26 The cost of having money as a motivator 09:16 Did you know this is what you wanted to do? 12:22 The voice inside 18:07 Following your intuition 23:39 How do I know to tune into the voice and know where to go 27:35 How do we get better at quitting? 29:14 Aspirations 30:54 Perfectionism 34:04 The three stages of figuring anything out 35:50 People that want something but don’t do anything about it 41:13 Being honest 43:45 Romantic love 49:17 “I’m too busy” is bullshit 52:02 Redefining your sucess 57:53 Stigma of being a woman and saying all of this 01:00:46 Time genius 01:04:34 ADHD 01:11:10 What do you struggle with? 01:11:10 Do you feel fake? 01:25:55 The last guest question Maria: Instagram - https://bit.ly/3T2ztkH Youtube - https://bit.ly/3RFgc7y Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: BlueJeans - https://g2ul0.app.link/NCgpGjVNKsb Huel - https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb Craftd - https://g2ul0.app.link/gZ8in6Dsvsb

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Oct 6, 20221h 33mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 3:00 – 9:00

    Childhood Money Trauma and the Birth of a Drive

    Marie recalls a defining memory of her mother post‑divorce, sobbing on the phone and repeating, “I have nothing,” then grabbing Marie and warning her never to let anyone control her money. As a child she equated lack of money with loss of love and family, unconsciously vowing to make enough to protect everyone. This fear-driven equation became the hidden engine of her ambition and overwork.

  2. 9:00 – 18:00

    Overwork, Self‑Punishment, and the Cost of ‘Never Enough’

    She describes years of working seven days a week, missing life events and ignoring her partner’s reassurances that she wasn’t lazy. Internally, nothing she did felt sufficient; she was harsh and unforgiving with herself, seeing rest as weakness. Only in her 40s did she begin shifting from lack and self‑criticism to a stance of gratitude for what she’d built and excitement about what’s next.

  3. 18:00 – 28:00

    From Wall Street Misfit to Discovering Coaching

    Marie recounts landing a coveted Wall Street job surrounded by people making millions, only to feel a persistent inner voice telling her, “This isn’t who you are.” After a breakdown call, her father urged her to quit and keep searching for work she loved. A stint in magazine publishing triggered the same inner dissonance, and a random article about life coaching lit her up, leading her back to bartending while building a coaching practice on the side.

  4. 28:00 – 37:00

    What the ‘Inner Voice’ Really Is and How to Hear It

    Forleo identifies the inner voice as intuition or a ‘higher self’—gentle, persistent, and often counter to societal expectations. She believes everyone has it but many are untrained in recognizing it, drowned out by external voices (family, culture, social media). She suggests tuning into it through small daily choices, reflecting on past times you ignored it, and creating space via meditation and movement to reduce mental noise.

  5. 37:00 – 46:00

    Intuition vs Fear: The Expansive–Contracted Test

    She offers a practical way to differentiate intuition from fear: notice whether a decision feels expansive or contracted in your body. They discuss grey areas where money or convenience tempt you into saying yes to things that feel heavy, and how thought‑generated dread (e.g., about travel logistics) is different from a deep bodily ‘no.’ Marie emphasizes paying attention to physical sensations, not just mental stories.

  6. 46:00 – 55:00

    Finding Your Path: Engagement Over Endless Thinking

    Addressing people stuck in jobs they hate, Marie argues that clarity comes from action. You’ll never figure out your ideal path by only thinking or scrolling; instead, follow curiosities through classes, assisting others, or low‑stakes experiments. She debunks “I don’t have time” as the dominant excuse and prescribes a detailed seven‑day time audit to expose how much time leaks into social media and passive consumption.

  7. 55:00 – 1:00:00

    Quitting as a Skill and Respecting Risk Tolerance

    They reframe quitting as an essential counterpart to starting, not a moral failure. Marie explains her own financial risk aversion, rooted in scarcity growing up, and why she chose to keep bartending while slowly building her coaching practice. She cites data showing entrepreneurs who keep their day job while launching are significantly less likely to fail, encouraging people to design realistic runways rather than romanticize ‘burn the boats’ stories.

  8. 1:00:00 – 1:09:00

    Perfectionism, Messy Beginnings, and ‘Everything Is Figureoutable’

    Marie shares how her first workshop had five attendees—two were her parents—and a clip‑art workbook, yet that imperfect start was essential. She argues that perfectionism, often fueled by online ‘gurus,’ paralyzes people who believe they must have a flawless plan and brand before acting. She introduces the three rules of “Everything Is Figureoutable,” emphasizing that rule three—admitting you may not care enough—is what frees you from fake goals.

  9. 1:09:00 – 1:22:00

    ‘Can’t’ vs ‘Won’t’: Getting Honest About What You Really Want

    They unpack how people frequently pursue goals they don’t truly want—like a six‑pack or starting a business—because they “want to want” them or feel they should. Forleo’s distinction between ‘can’t’ and ‘won’t’ becomes a central tool for honesty and agency. Applied to both self‑talk and relationships, it dissolves excuses about time and prevents inauthentic commitments that quietly poison trust.

  10. 1:22:00 – 1:39:00

    Relationships, Attachment Wounds, and Almost Losing Josh

    Marie explains how her need for freedom (from childhood smothering) collided with Josh’s abandonment wounds, a classic opposites‑attract Imago pattern. Workaholism and refusal to take holidays left him feeling neglected and unloved. Discovering Harville Hendrix and Helen LaKelly Hunt’s Imago therapy, especially structured dialogue, helped them hear each other’s needs, soften the freedom‑vs‑closeness battle, and integrate love with ambition instead of pitting them against each other.

  11. 1:39:00 – 1:47:00

    Choosing Not to Have Children and Honoring Women’s Choices

    Marie shares that she has always known she didn’t want marriage or children, in stark contrast to many of her peers’ fantasies. When she discussed this on MarieTV, she was flooded with responses from women who felt pressured into motherhood or hadn’t realized they had a choice. She emphasizes that women must be free to define family and legacy for themselves, whether that’s birthing children or ideas.

  12. 1:47:00 – 1:56:00

    Time Genius: Escaping Time Stress and Redesigning Your Days

    After severe burnout in 2020, Marie developed Time Genius, a framework for shifting from chronic time stress to intentional time use. It centers on the belief that there is always time for what truly matters, ruthless clarity about priorities, environmental design to support focus, and systems that don’t rely on fleeting motivation. As she and students apply it, they report more spacious days, lower stress, and higher output in less time.

  13. 1:56:00 – 2:10:00

    Multi‑Passionate Entrepreneurship, ADHD, and the Power of Range

    Diagnosed with ADHD, Marie rejects the one‑thing‑only dogma and embraces being a ‘multi‑passionate entrepreneur.’ She shares how trying to solely be a coach felt like cutting off a limb, so she added dance and fitness instruction, eventually becoming a Nike athlete. Those disparate experiences later enriched her brand and on‑camera presence, illustrating how seemingly tangential passions can become core creative ingredients.

  14. 2:10:00 – 2:21:00

    Social Media, Comparison, and Designing Healthier Digital Habits

    Marie admits social media makes her compare and feel ‘not enough,’ so she largely delegates posting and minimizes her own exposure. Together, she and Steven discuss muting accounts, hiding likes, and curating feeds as acts of self‑protection rather than weakness. She offers the mantra “Create before you consume” to prevent beginning each day in reactive mode and letting other people’s content hijack your mood and priorities.

  15. 2:21:00

    Imposter Feelings, Being ‘Enough,’ and Trusting Inner Wisdom

    Even after two decades of coaching, Marie still feels like a fraud at times—especially with public speaking—and judges herself for not being able to “crush any stage” on demand. She manages this by reducing comparison inputs (especially social media) and practicing self‑kindness when the harsh inner voice appears. In her lowest relational moment—when Josh said he didn’t think he loved her anymore—she chose to listen to a deeper voice urging her to fight humbly for the relationship instead of reacting defensively.

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