Charles Murray - Human Accomplishment and the Future of Liberty | The Lunar Society #10

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Released

October 28, 2020

Duration

1h 52m

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Dwarkesh Podcast

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

I ask Charles Murray about Human Accomplishment, By The People, and The Curmudgeon's Guide to Getting Ahead. Podcast website + Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/charles-murray Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3QFnF76 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3A9z8of Follow me on Twitter to be notified of future content: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp Follow Charles Murray: https://twitter.com/charlesmurray Read Human Accomplishment: https://amzn.to/3pu6ZUd Read The Curmudgeon's Guide: https://amzn.to/3pvwFjl Read By the People: https://amzn.to/3PBRcx5 TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 1:00 Writing Human Accomplishment 6:30 The Lotka curve, age, and miracle years 10:38 Habits of the greats (hard work) 15:22 Focus and explore in your 20s 19:57 Living in Thailand 23:02 Peace, wealth, and golden ages 26:02 East, west, and religion 30:38 Christianity and the Enlightenment 34:44 Institutional sclerosis 37:43 Antonine Rome, decadence, and declining accomplishment 42:13 Crisis in social science 45:40 Can secular humanism win? 55:00 Future of Christianity 1:03:30 Liberty and accomplishment 1:06:08 By the People 1:11:17 American exceptionalism 1:14:49 Pessimism about reform 1:18:43 Can libertarianism be resuscitated? 1:25:18 Trump's deregulation and judicial nominations 1:28:11 Beating the federal government 1:32:05 Why don't big companies have a litigation fund? 1:34:05 Getting around the Halo effect 1:37:00 Future of liberty 1:41:00 Public sector unions 1:43:43 Andrew Yang and UBI 1:44:36 Groundhog Day 1:47:05 Getting noticed as a young person 1:50:48 Passage from Human Accomplishment

🎤 SPEAKERS

• Charles Murray

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• Dwarkesh Patel

  host

🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Dwarkesh Podcast, featuring Charles Murray and Dwarkesh Patel, Charles Murray - Human Accomplishment and the Future of Liberty | The Lunar Society #10 explores charles Murray on genius, religion, decadence, and rescuing liberty Charles Murray discusses his book *Human Accomplishment*, explaining how he quantified greatness in the arts and sciences and what patterns emerge about genius, hard work, and golden ages of creativity. He argues that cultural factors—especially Christian notions of purpose and individual autonomy—were central to Western achievement, and that contemporary secular humanism may lack equivalent moral staying power. Murray draws parallels between today’s institutional sclerosis and historical decadence, outlines his proposal for civil disobedience against overbearing regulation, and reflects pessimistically on the current state of American liberty. He closes with personal advice for young people about work, character, exposure to alien environments, and the moral lessons of *Groundhog Day*.

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