Daniel Yergin — Oil destroyed Hitler, fracking destroyed Putin

𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 * Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/daniel-yergin * Apple Podcasts: http://apple.co/3RFuS7b/ * Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3APeQ3L * Me on Twitter: https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp Buy The Prize: https://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power/dp/1439110123 Buy The New Map: https://www.amazon.com/New-Map-Energy-Climate-Nations/dp/0143111159/ 𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒 * This episode is brought to you by Stripe, financial infrastructure for the internet. Millions of companies from Anthropic to Amazon use Stripe to accept payments, automate financial processes and grow their revenue. Learn more here: https://stripe.com/ * This episode is brought to you by Suno.com - they’re building the world’s best AI-generated music, and they need the help of amazing researchers. If you’re an ML researcher who wants to work on a killer team with lots of GPUs, leverage a ton of unique data, and study the ultimate frontier of beauty, email your resume to dwarkesh@suno.com. If you’re interested in advertising on the podcast, check out this page: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/advertise 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 00:00:00 – Beginning of the oil industry 00:14:21 – World War I & II 00:25:50 – The Middle East 00:47:48 – Yergin’s conversations with Putin & Modi 01:05:20 – Writing through stories 01:11:10 – The renewable energy transition Buy The New Map: https://www.amazon.com/New-Map-Energy-Climate-Nations/dp/1594206430 Buy The Prize: https://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power/dp/1439110123