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At the top of her career, Melinda French Gates started doubting herself in meetings she'd run a hundred times before. The causes turned out to be chronic insomnia, undiagnosed perimenopause, and a habit she'd picked up years earlier of overriding her own signals. Dr. Becky sits down with Melinda, founder of Pivotal Ventures, to talk about how women learn to stop trusting themselves, and what it takes to rebuild that trust. They get into new Gallup research from Pivotal Ventures, where half of respondents who'd been pregnant said they struggled with their mental health during or after pregnancy. They also cover the "10,000 paper cuts" that teach girls and women to question their gut, and a simple phrase that helps kids trust what they notice. Plus: what Melinda's granddaughters are teaching her about "I'm not ready yet," and why perfect is creepy. Chapters 0:00 – Intro: how women learn to trust themselves (or don't) 2:21 – Meeting her daughter at the back door in yoga pants 7:41 – Half of women struggle with mental health during or after pregnancy 9:13 – Why we screen for gestational diabetes but not mental health 12:27 – Having to push to be taken seriously by doctors 14:07 – Perimenopause, insomnia, and doubting herself at work 15:23 – The "10,000 paper cuts" 17:58 – "You were right to notice that" 21:15 – Raising girls who trust themselves 23:10 – Paid family leave and what Nordic countries get right 26:32 – Empty nest and a new chapter of identity 29:15 – Learning to trust herself again 31:48 – A college relationship, Microsoft, and coming back to herself 34:00 – Her granddaughters and "I'm not ready yet" 39:35 – Good enough parenting and why perfect is creepy 41:19 – Three phrases that build self-trust in kids Thanks to Carter's, Good Inside's new Confidence Program is free for every family for the next six months. Click here to learn more. https://www.goodinside.com/program/raising-confident-capable-kids/?utm_source=podcast_gi&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=confidence_program&utm_content=shownotes_20260929 Thank you to our partners for making this episode possible: Frida: Shop Frida at Amazon, Target, and Walmart today Perelel: Use code GOODINSIDE for 20% off your first order at perelelhealth.com/GOODINSIDE Yoto: Get 15% off your order with the code DRBECKY15 at YotoPlay.com. New customers only, ends October 31, offer valid on select products only. Terms apply. Care.com: For a limited time, you can use the code BECKY35 to save 35% on a Care.com Premium Membership.**Offer applies to initial term of http://Care.com membership subscriptions. Not applicable to add-on features or non-renewing access fees or services. Expires 10/31/26. Care.com does not employ or place any caregiver. Background checks are an important start, but they have limits. Visit www.care.com/safety. #goodinside #drbecky #melindafrenchgates #womenshealth #perimenopause #maternalmentalhealth #parenting

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:22

    “Good enough” as the foundation of self-worth and self-trust

    Melinda French Gates and Dr. Becky open with a shared mantra: being “good enough” and worthy as-is. Dr. Becky frames the episode’s central theme—how girls often learn to distrust their own perceptions, which later affects everything from relationships to healthcare.

    • •Self-worth as an internal baseline rather than something granted by others
    • •How repeated minimization (“you’re fine,” “too sensitive”) erodes self-trust over time
    • •Adult consequences: doubting your own feelings in parenting and medical settings
    • •The episode’s guiding question: what changes when women learn to trust themselves?
  2. 2:22 – 4:14

    The yoga-pants doorway lesson: switching from “work mode” to connection

    Melinda shares a formative parenting moment: her daughter’s chilly reaction to “business suit mom” arriving home. She learns to deliberately transition into her daughter’s world—literally changing clothes and pace—to signal presence and emotional availability.

    • •Kids quickly detect “work mode” vs “home mode” energy
    • •Changing clothes as a cue for a deeper mindset shift
    • •Connection requires slowing down and entering a child’s world
    • •Parenting is less about performance and more about attunement
  3. 4:14 – 7:54

    Transitions, anxiety, and the efficiency trap in parenting

    They explore how efficiency and relationship-building often conflict, especially for high-achieving parents. Melinda describes her own transition anxiety and how naming it (“Mommy’s in a transition time”) helped her children—and herself—navigate shifts more calmly.

    • •Efficiency can be rewarded at work but undermines relational presence at home
    • •Transitions can trigger anxiety and shortness even in loving parents
    • •Using explicit language to externalize the “transition” state
    • •How kids learn patience and perspective when parents narrate internal states
  4. 7:54 – 9:14

    New data on perinatal mental health: half of women struggle

    Melinda discusses Pivotal Ventures’ Gallup survey of 5,000 U.S. adults and the startling finding: about half of women report mental health struggles during pregnancy or in the year after birth. The conversation emphasizes that the burden can’t rest solely on mothers; the healthcare system must be designed to detect and respond.

    • •Gallup + Pivotal Ventures survey scope and purpose
    • •Staggering prevalence of perinatal mental health challenges
    • •Mental health as a public health and systems issue, not an individual failing
    • •Using data to identify gaps and drive change
  5. 9:14 – 12:27

    Why we screen for gestational diabetes but ignore mental health

    Dr. Becky contrasts robust gestational diabetes screening (8–10% prevalence) with the lack of systematic mental health screening despite much higher prevalence. Melinda shares an example from an Alabama clinic that screens every patient for mental health first, showing a practical model already working.

    • •Mismatch between prevalence and screening priorities
    • •The value of proactive screening before crises escalate
    • •Clinic example: universal mental health screening at intake
    • •Responsibility shifts from “women should cope” to “systems should detect and support”
  6. 12:27 – 14:07

    Being dismissed in healthcare—even as a powerful woman

    They turn to another survey finding: one in three women have had to push to be taken seriously by a provider. Melinda relates this to her own experience seeking perimenopause care, emphasizing that women shouldn’t have to self-advocate repeatedly just to be heard.

    • •Survey finding: 1 in 3 women report needing to push for seriousness
    • •Status and power do not fully protect women from dismissal
    • •Perimenopause/menopause often treated as invisible or “unspeakable”
    • •Need for better training and norms across women’s full lifespan
  7. 14:07 – 15:24

    Perimenopause symptoms: insomnia, anxiety, and self-doubt at the peak of career

    Melinda describes entering perimenopause in her early 40s and not recognizing it. Chronic insomnia and rising anxiety began affecting her confidence—even in high-stakes global meetings—prompting her to keep seeking care until someone connected the dots.

    • •Common but under-discussed symptom cluster: chronic sleep disruption
    • •How insomnia can intensify anxiety and depressive symptoms
    • •Cognitive and confidence impacts: doubting yourself despite competence
    • •Persistence in seeking care until getting an accurate framing
  8. 15:24 – 17:46

    The “10,000 paper cuts”: how women learn to untrust their gut

    Melinda links healthcare dismissal to a broader cultural pattern of undermining girls’ and women’s perceptions. Small invalidations accumulate, teaching women to second-guess themselves—especially in authority-heavy environments like medicine—highlighting why both individual confidence and systemic reform are needed.

    • •Cultural messages: “too emotional,” “too sensitive” as chronic invalidation
    • •Accumulation effect: self-doubt becomes default
    • •Authority dynamics in medicine make self-advocacy harder
    • •Not just “trust your gut”—the system must also change to listen
  9. 17:46 – 21:01

    Language that builds self-trust: “You were right to notice that”

    Dr. Becky introduces a powerful validation phrase and explains how it strengthens a child’s internal authority without removing boundaries. Melinda expands on the idea: “I’ve noticed…” language can surface power dynamics and help women advocate effectively with doctors or others in authority.

    • •Validating perception builds lifelong internal authority
    • •Distinguishing validation from permission (feelings aren’t decision-makers)
    • •Using “I’ve noticed…” to challenge dismissal respectfully and clearly
    • •Self-trust includes taking action (e.g., finding a new doctor)
  10. 21:01 – 22:40

    Raising girls (and boys) who can name feelings—and changing workplaces too

    They discuss how emotional literacy in younger generations supports healthier development for all kids. Melinda connects this to gendered workplace design and argues that family-supportive policies help parents and children thrive—and reinforce women’s power and health.

    • •Emotional language benefits both girls and boys
    • •Workplaces historically built around men’s lives and needs
    • •Women’s health is linked to women’s power and opportunity
    • •Normalization starts at home but must be reinforced by institutions
  11. 22:40 – 26:17

    Paid family leave and what Nordic countries normalized for dads

    Melinda describes how long-standing paid leave policies in countries like Sweden and Norway reshape expectations for fathers, families, and even product design. Dr. Becky underscores that the most powerful interventions are often systemic, not just individual advice like “sleep when the baby sleeps.”

    • •Paid leave for both parents changes cultural norms and father involvement
    • •Policy shapes behavior: what dads expect of themselves and kids expect of dads
    • •System supports make common parenting advice realistic (rest, logistics, care)
    • •Social design ripple effects: workplaces, commuting patterns, family products
  12. 26:17 – 29:01

    Empty nest as identity shift—and a surprisingly vibrant stage

    Melinda reflects on children leaving home and how it changes a mother’s daily identity. She shares reframes from her family: launching kids means you’ve done your job—and having a career helped stabilize her sense of self during the transition into more open time and new relationships.

    • •Emotional difficulty of kids leaving vs pride in their independence
    • •Reframing: “giving them wings” is success, not loss
    • •Career identity can provide continuity through family transitions
    • •Post-parenting-at-home life can be vibrant and intentional
  13. 29:01 – 33:46

    Returning to yourself: therapy, self-abandonment, and “I’m worthy as I am”

    Melinda answers that she trusts herself far more now than at 30, attributing it to deep internal work and therapy. She recounts experiences—an abusive relationship and a male-dominated work culture—that shaped self-doubt, and how she chose to reclaim her values and identity, culminating in her “I’m good enough” declaration.

    • •Self-trust can be rebuilt through reflection and therapy
    • •How verbal abuse and external belief systems distort self-worth
    • •Recognizing and resisting value drift in high-pressure cultures
    • •Reclaiming identity: refusing to accept someone else’s worth overlay
  14. 33:46 – 43:35

    Grandparenting, “I’m not ready yet,” and three phrases to give kids lifelong confidence

    The conversation turns to granddaughters and the practice of attunement—meeting children where they are without taking their moods personally. Dr. Becky closes with three practical lines that validate children’s inner signals while maintaining boundaries, tying the entire episode back to self-trust and the “good inside” message.

    • •Attunement over performance: letting a child approach when ready
    • •“I’m not ready yet” as an early boundary skill (far beyond manners)
    • •Good-enough parenting reduces pressure on both parent and child
    • •Closing tools: “I believe you,” “You’re right to notice that,” “That doesn’t feel good—you're sensing that”

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