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What Boys and Dads Really Need with Richard Reeves

Gender roles are shifting—and as they do, the needs of boys and men are changing too, impacting how we raise boys and understand modern fatherhood. In this conversation, Dr. Becky and Richard Reeves explore how evolving expectations around masculinity and fatherhood are leaving many boys and dads without the support they need, and why rethinking those roles is key to helping all kids—and parents—thrive. Get the Good Inside App by Dr. Becky: https://bit.ly/4fSxbzk Follow Dr. Becky on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbeckyatgoodinside Sign up for our weekly email, Good Insider: https://www.goodinside.com/newsletter For a full transcript of the episode, go to [goodinside.com/podcast](http://goodinside.com/podcast). Today’s episode is brought to you by Skylight Calendar. As parents, the mental load is real—to-do lists, doctor’s appointments, sports practices, work events, birthday parties… Should I keep going? If your family is anything like mine, it can feel like there are a thousand things to remember and your brain is running on overdrive. What if I told you there's a way to bring a little more calm and clarity to your chaotic, always-changing family schedule? Meet Skylight Calendar. It’s a central, easy-to-see touchscreen with clear colors, so everyone in your family can stay in the loop. As someone obsessed with efficiency, it almost feels like magic how seamlessly it syncs with all of the calendars you're already using—Google Calendar, Apple Calendar, Outlook, and more. I truly see this tool as your partner in sharing the mental load with your kids AND partner. And because life doesn't stop when you leave the house, Skylight offers a free companion app. You can add or update events, check off to-do lists, and stay in sync with your family no matter where you are. Another great feature: If you're not completely thrilled within 120 days, you can return it for a full refund. Ready to say goodbye to calendar chaos and hello to a more organized and connected family life? Right now, Skylight is offering our listeners $30 off their 15-inch Calendars. Just go to [skylightcal.com/BECKY](http://skylightcal.com/BECKY) for $30 off. This offer expires December 31, 2025. Today’s episode is brought to you by Sittercity. We talk a lot about support at Good Inside—emotional support, community, not having to figure out parenting on your own. Sometimes, you also need logistical support. Like, someone to watch your kid so you can make that meeting, run those errands, or finally catch up with a friend. That’s where Sittercity can be a really helpful tool. Their platform gives you a trusted way to find sitters who are kind, experienced, and show up when you need them. You can read reviews from other parents, message sitters directly, and set up interviews—all in one spot. If you’ve been meaning to find a sitter but didn’t know where to begin, this is going to make it feel a whole lot easier. Go to [Sittercity.com](http://sittercity.com/) and use the code “goodinside" for 25% off the annual or quarterly premium subscription plans. Today’s episode is also brought to you by Coterie. I remember when my own kids were learning to use the potty… so many mixed emotions: pride, stress, excitement, and a lot of mess. It really is a process. That’s why I’m always looking for tools that make it feel easier. Coterie gets that. They’ve created thoughtful products that support how kids actually learn, like The Flush Wipe and The Pant. The Pant is a diaper-training pant hybrid with a stretchy, tabbed waistband for easy pull-down or diaper-style changes. It’s absorbent enough to make it the only product you need for day and night. You can pair The Pant with the new Flush Wipes. They’re soft, durable, and designed for independent wiping - made with 99% water and 5 clean ingredients, safe for sensitive skin. Plus, they're sewer and septic safe, so they disintegrate like toilet paper when flushed.  ****Think of them like a dynamic duo, designed to grow with your kid through this process and make potty learning feel a little better for everyone. Get 20% off your first order with the code DRBECKY20.

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Jun 10, 202533mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:14

    Father’s Day framing: boys, masculinity, and why this conversation now

    Dr. Becky sets the stage for a timely Father’s Day discussion about modern fatherhood, boys’ development, and masculinity. She introduces Richard Reeves and emphasizes a “two things can be true” lens: caring about boys’ struggles doesn’t negate girls’ and women’s challenges.

    • Fatherhood today: aspirations, missing models, and worries about sons
    • Introducing Richard Reeves and his work on boys and men
    • No “either/or”: acknowledging boys’ issues alongside girls’ issues
    • Invitation to reflect and share the episode with a dad
  2. 2:14 – 2:57

    Early school gaps: language, self-regulation, and readiness

    Reeves outlines consistent developmental differences on average—boys lag in language and self-regulation and are less likely to be school-ready. These early gaps show up across schooling in grades, discipline, and performance distribution.

    • Boys are about a year behind in early language development on average
    • School readiness gaps begin in pre-K and persist through school
    • Higher exclusion/discipline rates for boys
    • Achievement distribution: girls overrepresented in top GPA decile; boys in bottom decile
  3. 2:57 – 3:31

    Schools becoming ‘female-default’: environment, staffing, and expectations

    The conversation shifts from individual kids to systems: schools have become less adapted to typical boy development. Reeves argues the risk is treating boys like ‘malfunctioning girls’ rather than designing environments that fit different developmental trajectories.

    • Decline in male teachers and fewer boys in sports/structured outlets
    • No conspiracy—cultural shifts produced unintended school mismatch
    • Risk of assuming a female behavioral ‘default’ in classrooms
    • Policy blind spot: known differences rarely shape education decisions
  4. 3:31 – 5:10

    Kindergarten shock for parents: ‘What’s wrong with my son?’

    Dr. Becky describes a common family comparison—sons seeming less organized and less independent than daughters entering kindergarten. Reeves reframes this as predictable developmental timing differences rather than a defect.

    • Parents compare siblings’ readiness (organization, focus, independence)
    • Typical gaps in planning, deferred gratification, and executive skills
    • The ‘imaginary sister’ comparison and unfair internal benchmarks
    • Need for more scaffolding and realistic timelines for skill-building
  5. 5:10 – 6:59

    Replacing blame with skill-building: shame, patience, and scaffolding

    Dr. Becky and Reeves unpack how ‘fault-based’ thinking triggers anger and shame in both parents and kids. They argue for treating executive-function tasks like skills (like learning a layup) that require practice, sequencing, and support—often more support for boys.

    • Blame reflex: ‘What’s wrong with him?’ and ‘What’s wrong with me?’
    • Shame drives overreaction and performative parenting
    • Reframing: skills develop via practice, not punishment or lectures
    • Morning routines and transitions are complex, not ‘simple tasks’
  6. 6:59 – 9:44

    Reeves’ parenting regrets: the morning rush and learning grace

    Reeves shares personal stories of losing patience during chaotic school-morning routines and how he now views those moments as missed opportunities for support. The takeaway: kids aren’t failing; they may not be ready yet—and parents can provide calm structure.

    • Morning chaos as a pressure cooker (work schedules, sibling dynamics)
    • Tactics like threats and yelling backfire and create fear/shame
    • Developmental readiness differs child-to-child
    • Scaffolding and patience build competence over time
  7. 9:44 – 11:37

    How boys share feelings: shoulder-to-shoulder connection over face-to-face

    Reeves explains that many boys and men communicate emotions more easily while doing an activity, not via direct ‘interrogation.’ He suggests shifting from face-to-face questioning to side-by-side time (drives, sports, hikes, games) where sharing can emerge naturally.

    • Different emotional expression styles; feelings often emerge indirectly
    • ‘Shoulder-to-shoulder’ contexts: driving, fishing, gaming, sports
    • Avoid intense ‘how was your day?’ face-to-face pressure
    • Fathers may intuitively use activity-based bonding; therapy parallels (walking/talking)
  8. 11:37 – 14:41

    Side-door strategies and vulnerable storytelling to open emotional doors

    Dr. Becky links Reeves’ idea to her ‘deeply feeling kids’ framework: direct approaches can trigger shame and shutdown, while side-door approaches invite connection without overwhelm. She highlights the power of parents sharing their own age-appropriate vulnerable stories to reduce isolation and defensiveness.

    • Front-door questions can feel exposing; kids may slam the door
    • Side-door moments: car rides, bedtime, parallel play, distraction
    • Parent vulnerability can normalize feelings and lower shame
    • Titration: offer connection without forcing a conversation agenda
  9. 14:41 – 16:38

    Agenda-less parenting and ‘boomerang anxiety’ between parents and kids

    Reeves argues kids can detect when parents have an agenda, which can block authentic sharing. He also warns that parents’ visible worry can amplify children’s anxiety, creating a feedback loop where everyone becomes more distressed.

    • Kids sense ‘agenda’ and may shut down to protect themselves
    • Time together works best when the child controls what emerges
    • Parents should communicate confidence alongside concern
    • Anxiety contagion: parental worry increases child worry, which reinforces parental worry
  10. 16:38 – 19:54

    The ‘sturdy pilot’ model: validating feelings without transmitting panic

    Dr. Becky uses an airplane turbulence metaphor to distinguish between panicked leadership, dismissive leadership, and sturdy leadership. The goal is to acknowledge a child’s feelings while projecting calm confidence in their capacity to cope.

    • Bad options: leader panic or ‘stop freaking out’ dismissal
    • Sturdy pilot: ‘I see your fear’ + ‘I can handle this’
    • Problem-solving can sometimes signal parental anxiety
    • Core message: ‘This is hard, and you can get through it’
  11. 19:54 – 22:21

    Modern fatherhood: dads matter (even after separation) and dads’ unique strengths

    Reeves emphasizes that father involvement should remain central regardless of parents’ romantic relationship status. He discusses research suggesting dads often excel at helping kids explore the world—through play, controlled risk, and supporting ‘leaving the nest,’ especially in adolescence.

    • Post-separation risk: fathers get ‘benched’ from parenting
    • Dads’ strengths in adolescence: outward growth, exploration, risk calibration
    • Oxytocin differences: dads’ spike linked to play/throwing/catching vs cuddling
    • Reassurance to dads who don’t ‘feel it’ in infancy: your role grows over time
  12. 22:21 – 28:32

    Connection as the long game: secure base, independence, and the teen years

    Dr. Becky argues the ultimate parenting ‘strategy’ as kids age is connection—built through early deposits of attunement and reliability. She links secure attachment to healthy independence: kids explore more when they know they can return to a safe base, and dads can be vital anchors in adolescence.

    • Independence grows from dependable connection (secure base)
    • Explorer vs nomad: teens need an anchor to take healthy risks
    • Early-stage connection prevents later resentment/distance
    • Connection is what makes guidance and influence possible in adolescence
  13. 28:32 – 31:37

    Healthy distance and relational ‘tissue’: why dads’ presence and confidence matter

    They explore the paradox that strong relationships require some distance, especially as kids mature. Reeves underscores that children shouldn’t feel responsible for parents’ emotional stability, and he reiterates the broader cultural message: every dad matters—within families and communities.

    • Healthy distance supports autonomy and a real relationship across a ‘gap’
    • Kids shouldn’t carry responsibility for parents’ wellbeing
    • Dads may feel like ‘malfunctioning moms’—a harmful narrative
    • Fatherhood’s societal role: dads matter to other people’s kids, too
  14. 31:37 – 33:55

    Closing invitation: discomfort as growth and welcoming dads into the community

    Dr. Becky closes by normalizing discomfort as a sign of learning rather than wrongdoing and encourages listeners to talk about the episode to reduce isolation. She explicitly invites dads into the Good Inside community, asking for feedback on what resonates and what doesn’t.

    • Discomfort signals novelty and growth, not failure
    • ‘We can’t change the hard, but we can change the alone’
    • Encouragement to share and discuss these topics with others
    • Direct call for dads’ perspectives, critiques, and needs in parenting conversations

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