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Curing All Human Diseases & the Future of Health & Technology | Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan

In this episode my guests are Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta (formerly Facebook), and his wife Dr. Priscilla Chan, M.D., co-founder and co-CEO of the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI). We discuss how CZI plans to cure all human diseases by the end of this century by funding transformative projects and technologies at the intersection of biology, engineering and artificial intelligence (AI). They describe their funding and development of Biohubs and the progress already underway to accelerate the understanding of cell function, pathways and disease. Then Mark discusses social media, its impact on mental health and new tools for online experiences. We also discuss Meta’s virtual reality (VR), augmented and mixed reality tech and how AI will soon completely transform our online and physical life experiences. This episode will interest anyone curious about biology, medicine, mental health, AI and the future of technology and humanity. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman The Brain Body Contract Tickets: https://www.hubermanlab.com/events Pre-sale password: HUBERMAN Huberman Lab Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://www.hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter Mark Zuckerberg Meta Website: https://about.meta.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zuck Threads: https://www.threads.net/@zuck Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zuck Meta profile: https://about.meta.com/media-gallery/executives/mark-zuckerberg LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-zuckerberg-618bba58 Dr. Priscilla Chan Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/priscilla LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/priscilla-chan-907181a3 Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI) CZI website: https://chanzuckerberg.com CZI Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chanzuckerberginitiative CZI Threads: https://www.threads.net/@chanzuckerberginitiative CZI X: https://twitter.com/ChanZuckerberg Other Resources CELLxGENE: https://cellxgene.cziscience.com Chan Zuckerberg Biohub Network: https://www.czbiohub.org CZI Biohub San Francisco: https://www.czbiohub.org/sf CZI Biohub Chicago: https://www.czbiohub.org/chi CZI Biohub New York: https://www.czbiohub.org/ny Adam Mosseri: https://www.instagram.com/mosseri Dr. Jeremy Bailenson: https://profiles.stanford.edu/jeremy-bailenson Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses: https://www.ray-ban.com/usa/ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses Timestamps 00:00:00 Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan 00:02:15 Sponsors: Eight Sleep & LMNT; The Brain Body Contract 00:05:35 Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI) & Human Disease Research 00:08:51 Innovation & Discovery, Science & Engineering 00:12:53 Funding, Building Tools & Imaging 00:17:57 Healthy vs. Diseased Cells, Human Cell Atlas & AI, Virtual Cells 00:21:59 Single Cell Methods & Disease; CELLxGENE Tool 00:28:22 Sponsor: AG1 00:29:53 AI & Hypothesis Generation; Long-term Projects & Collaboration 00:35:14 Large Language Models (LLMs), In Silico Experiments 00:42:11 CZI Biohubs, Chicago, New York 00:50:52 Universities & Biohubs; Therapeutics & Rare Diseases 00:57:23 Optimism; Children & Families 01:06:21 Sponsor: InsideTracker 01:07:25 Technology & Health, Positive & Negative Interactions 01:13:17 Algorithms, Clickbait News, Individual Experience 01:19:17 Parental Controls, Meta Social Media Tools & Tailoring Experience 01:24:51 Time, Usage & Technology, Parental Tools 01:28:55 Virtual Reality (VR), Mixed Reality Experiences & Smart Glasses 01:36:09 Physical Exercise & Virtual Product Development 01:44:19 Virtual Futures for Creativity & Social Interactions 01:49:31 Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses: Potential, Privacy & Risks 02:00:20 Visual System & Smart Glasses, Augmented Reality 02:06:42 AI Assistants & Creators, Identity Protection 02:13:26 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter #HubermanLab #Science #Technology Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Andrew HubermanhostMark ZuckerbergguestDr. Priscilla Changuest
Oct 22, 20232h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Mark Zuckerberg, Priscilla Chan Map Radical Future Of Curing Disease

  1. Andrew Huberman speaks with Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan about the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI) and its mission to help the scientific community cure, prevent, or manage all human disease by the end of the century.
  2. They explain CZI’s strategy: fund collaborative basic science, build advanced hardware and software tools (including AI and imaging), and operate cross-institutional Biohubs that tackle grand biological challenges like cell atlases, inflammation, and engineered immune-cell ‘endoscopes.’
  3. The conversation then shifts to Meta’s technologies—social media, VR, AR, and smart glasses—covering mental health impacts, safety and parental controls, and how mixed reality and AI assistants may transform education, exercise, and daily life.
  4. Throughout, Zuckerberg and Chan emphasize optimism, long time horizons, and using engineering plus philanthropy to accelerate discovery, while leaving drug development and commercialization to the broader ecosystem.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

CZI Focuses On Tools And Infrastructure, Not Owning All Discoveries

Chan and Zuckerberg are clear that CZI does not aim to personally cure every disease; instead, they want to greatly accelerate the entire scientific ecosystem by building tools (software, hardware, AI, Biohubs) and funding basic research. Their role is complementary to NIH: backing long-horizon, highly collaborative, engineering-heavy projects that are hard to fund through traditional, small-grant mechanisms.

Single-Cell Biology Plus AI Is Reshaping How We Understand Disease

CZI invests heavily in single-cell RNA sequencing and tools like CellxGene to map how each cell type in the body interprets DNA. This enables researchers to ask: in which cell types is a given disease gene active, and what other organs might be involved? Combined with large language models trained on cell atlas data, this approach can generate many testable hypotheses and eventually support in silico “virtual cells” to rapidly explore disease mechanisms before in vivo experiments.

Biohubs Show The Power Of Cross-Institution, Cross-Discipline Teams

CZI Biohubs force collaboration across at least three institutions and multiple disciplines. The Chicago Biohub embeds ultra-thin sensors in engineered tissues (like skin and neuromuscular junctions) to study cell–cell interactions and early inflammatory signals, while the New York Biohub engineers immune cells as ‘cellular endoscopes’ to detect—and ultimately act on—disease inside the body (e.g., coronary plaques, neurodegeneration, immune-privileged organs). These are 10–15 year bets that traditional models rarely support.

Modern LLMs Are Best Used As Hypothesis Generators, Not Oracles

Zuckerberg emphasizes that current large language models hallucinate and shouldn’t be treated as ground truth. Their strength is in exploring many possible states—e.g., protein folds or cell states under different conditions—and then having human scientists validate which of those are real. In life sciences, CZI is building a large nonprofit AI cluster to train models on massive cell and biology datasets precisely for this exploratory role.

Social Media’s Impact Depends Heavily On *How* It’s Used

Zuckerberg distinguishes between social media as connection versus passive consumption. Using platforms to maintain relationships and community correlates with better well-being; getting stuck in negative news loops or toxic interactions is harmful. Meta invests in safety tools (blocking, restricting, content filters), teen defaults (private accounts, parental supervision tools), and in-product nudges (e.g., suggesting a content break) rather than imposing a paternalistic limit on time or taste.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We don’t think at CZI that we’re going to cure, prevent, or manage all diseases. The goal is to give the scientific community the tools to accelerate the pace of science.

Mark Zuckerberg

Right now, say we have a recipe for a cake. We know there’s a typo in the recipe, and then the cake is awful. That’s all we know. We don’t know how the chef interprets the typo, we don’t know what happens in the oven… a lot of that is unknown.

Dr. Priscilla Chan

There’s this funny thing in basic science: we’ve basically cured every single disease in mice. But they are not humans.

Dr. Priscilla Chan

Optimists tend to be successful and pessimists tend to be right.

Mark Zuckerberg

My grandparents paired up their kids, one from each family, and sent them out on these little boats before the internet, before cell phones, and just said, ‘We’ll see you on the other side.’

Dr. Priscilla Chan

Chan Zuckerberg Initiative’s mission to cure, prevent, or manage all diseasesCell biology, single-cell atlases, and AI-powered “virtual cells”New scientific tools: imaging, software platforms, Biohubs, and AI clustersMeta’s social platforms and mental health, especially for teensVR, AR, and mixed reality for exercise, education, and workRay-Ban Meta smart glasses and always-available AI assistantsEthics, safety, and future of AI personas and digital identity

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