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75 min read · 15,001 wordsFocus Toolkit
Andrew Huberman 0:00 (soft rock music) Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today, we are discussing focus and concentration and tools for improving your focus and concentration. This is a topic that I've covered previously on the Huberman Lab Podcast, but in different contexts. For instance, we had a very popular episode on ADHD, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, which of course relates to the topic of focus and how to improve focus. We've also talked a lot about dopamine motivation and drive. In fact, that's the title of your previous also quite popular episode of this podcast. But never before have we had a single episode solely devoted to the tools to improve focus and concentration. The rationale for recording this episode is to provide people one location where they can go and quickly access the specific tools for increasing focus and concentration that are known to be the most powerful tools and the most up-to-date tools. In fact, today's episode is going to include description of several peer-reviewed studies and the tools that emerged from those scientific peer-reviewed studies that point to new and, fortunately, even briefer protocols that I've described before. So what I'm basically describing here is tools that, in a very short amount of time, will allow you to significantly increase your focus and concentration abilities. Those tools will include behavioral tools, nutrition-based tools, supplement-based tools, brain-machine interface based tools, and, for those of you that are working with a physician, prescription drug tools. Today's episode ought to benefit anybody, young or old, or anything in between, whether or not you have ADHD or not. Today's episode is going to give you tools that you can apply in your daily life, most all of them are completely zero cost, and those tools will allow you to tap into the neurochemistry and the neural circuits within your brain and body that peer-reviewed science has reliably shown can significantly improve your focus and concentration abilities. Just to give you a little teaser of the kinds of tools that I'm going to provide you on today's episode, a previous guest on the Huberman Lab Podcast was Dr. Wendy Suzuki. Dr. Suzuki is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at New York University, or NYU as it's commonly referred to. She's also the dean of arts and sciences at NYU. Her laboratory made a very important discovery, which was that a very brief, just 12, actually 13 if you really count the, the intro, but 13-minute daily meditation performed for a period of about eight weeks significantly increased people's focus and concentration abilities. And the great news is, you didn't need all eight weeks, it was just that's how long that you ran the study. So during today's episode, I will describe that protocol in detail. I'll also provide you an even briefer alternative to that protocol that you can use if, for instance, you find yourself with only three minutes or four minutes or five minutes a day to meditate. The great news is, there's quality peer-reviewed science to support that form of meditation for improving focus and concentration. And that falls under the bin of these zero-cost tools that you can really use to tap into the neurochemistry and neural circuits that really allow you to take control of your cognitive abilities and improve them over time. I'll also provide you important details about that protocol and other protocols. For instance, contrary to popular belief, it is not, I repeat, it is not a good idea to do a focus-based meditation within the four hours before bedtime. Many people, including some of the subjects in that study performed by the Suzuki lab, found that when they did a focusing meditation protocol, even if it was very calming, it led to difficulties in falling and staying asleep. So that runs counter to a lot of what we've heard about meditation being great for sleep. It turns out meditation might be great for sleep, it certainly is great for improving focus capacity, but I highly recommend that if you're going to apply a focus meditation tool in order to improve your focus and concentration, that you make sure that that's performed not within four hours prior to bedtime. So that's just a brief example of the sorts of tools and protocols and details about the tools and protocols that I'll provide on today's episode. I should mention that we have provided links in the show note captions so that you can quickly go to the studies that we describe, as well as some of the behavioral tools and other tools that we'll cover. Things like the use of binaural beats, supplements, et cetera. Our goal here, again, is to provide you the maximum number of tools for focus and concentration that you can pick from and choose from and apply in your life and try and eliminate as much of the legwork required to seek out and apply
Momentous Supplements
Andrew Huberman 4:25 those tools. I'm pleased to announce that the Huberman Lab Podcast is now partnered with Momentous Supplements. We partnered with Momentous for several important reasons. First of all, they ship internationally, because, uh, we know that many of you are located outside of the United States. That's valuable. Second of all, and perhaps most important, the quality of their supplements is second to none, both in terms of purity and precision of the amounts of the ingredients. Third, we've really emphasized supplements that are single ingredient supplements and that are supplied in dosages that allow you to build a supplementation protocol that's optimized for cost, that's optimized for effectiveness, and that you can add things and remove things from your protocol in a way that's really systematic and scientific. This is really hard to do if you're taking blends of different supplements or if the dosages are such that you can't titrate or, that is, adjust the dosages of a given supplement. So by using single ingredient supplements, you can really build out the supplement kit that's ideal for you and your specific needs. If you'd like to see the supplements that we've partnered with Momentous on, you can go to live momentous.com/huberman. There, you'll see those supplements, and just keep in mind that we are constantly expanding the library of supplements available through Momentous on a regular basis. Again, that's live momentous.com/huberman.
Thesis, LMNT, Eight Sleep
Andrew Huberman 5:38 Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford. It is, however, part of my desire and effort to bring zero cost to consumer information about science and science-related tools to the general public.In keeping with that theme, I'd like to thank the sponsors of today's podcast. Our first sponsor is Thesis. Thesis makes custom nootropics, and to be quite honest, I don't like the word nootropics because the translation of nootropics is smart drugs, and as a neuroscientist, I can tell you, there is no neural circuit in the brain for being smart. Rather, there are neural circuits that are responsible for focus, neural circuits for creativity, neural circuits for task switching, and so on and so on. Fortunately, Thesis understands this and has developed custom nootropics that are tailored to your specific goals and your specific needs. They use only the highest quality ingredients, things of the sort that we'll talk about in today's podcast, things like Alpha GPC, phosphatidylserine, Ginkgo biloba, et cetera, however, I should mention that they are customized to you. So, you can go to Thesis, take a brief quiz, and you can get a nootropic starter kit that will allow you to try various nootropics and determine which ones you like and work for you and which ones don't. I've been using Thesis nootropics, customized for me, for close to six months now and can confidently say that their nootropics have been a total game changer. My go-to formula is the Clarity Formula. I like to use that before cognitive work, and I use the Energy Formula before my workouts. To get your own personalized nootropic starter kit, go online to takethesis.com/huberman, take that three-minute quiz, and Thesis will send you four different formulas to try in your first month. Again, that's takethesis.com/huberman and use the code Huberman at checkout to get 10% off your first box. Today's episode is also brought to us by LMNT. LMNT is an electrolyte drink that has all the things you need and none of what you don't. That means the electrolytes salt, magnesium, and potassium are in there, but it does not have sugar. Electrolytes are key to cellular function, in particular neuronal or nerve cell function. In fact, for your nerve cells to be able to fire action potentials, those are the electrical signals that allow your brain and body to work and move and think, et cetera, you need sodium. A lot of people don't realize that. And while, of course, there are people out there that need to reduce their sodium intake, these would be people with pre-hypertension or hypertension, many people actually don't get enough sodium, especially people that are following low carbohydrate diets, drinking a lot of caffeine, or eating extremely clean. Oftentimes, those people feel better when they increase their sodium intake and their health can actually improve when they increase their sodium intake. LMNT contains a science-backed electrolyte ratio of one gram of sodium, 200 milligrams of potassium, and 60 milligrams of magnesium. If you'd like to try LMNT, you can go to drinklmnt, that's lmnt.com/huberman to claim a free LMNT sample pack with any purchase. Again, that's drinklmnt, lmnt.com/huberman. Today's episode is also brought to us by Eight Sleep. Eight Sleep makes smart mattress covers with heating, cooling, and sleep tracking capacity. The reality is that sleep is the foundation of mental health, physical health, and performance. Now, I've talked before in this podcast about the fact that there's a direct relationship between temperature and our ability to fall and stay asleep. In fact, our body temperature needs to drop by about one to three degrees in order to fall asleep and then there are further decreases in our body temperature that allow us to get into the deepest stages of sleep and the so-called rapid eye m- movement sleep, all the aspects of sleep that really restore our brain and body. And then waking up actually involves a heating up of core body temperature. By sleeping on an Eight Sleep mattress cover, you're able to control the temperature of your sleeping environment precisely. I've been sleeping on an Eight Sleep mattress cover for many months now, and I can tell you, it has completely changed my sleep. I thought I was sleeping pretty well before, and now, frankly, I don't even want to travel because I don't want to be away from my Eight Sleep. I can't wait until hotels and Airbnbs include Eight Sleep. If you want to try Eight Sleep, you can go to eightsleep.com/huberman and check out their new Pod 3 cover to save $250 off as a special Labor Day offer now through September 11th. Eight Sleep currently ships within the USA, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Again, that's eightsleep.com/huberman to save $250 off an Eight Sleep cover now through September 11th.
The “Arrow Model” of Focus: Epinephrine, Acetylcholine & Dopamine
Andrew Huberman 9:37 Okay. Let's talk about focus and concentration and how you can improve your focus and concentration using science-based protocols. Now, because today's episode is mainly focused on tools and not so much the underlying mechanisms, I'm mainly going to focus on what to do and when and how to do it. But I just want to take about three minutes and briefly describe a model, that is a visual image that you can put in your mind, that will help you incorporate the tools that I'll provide and that generally will help you understand at a mechanistic level how focus and concentration work. So, what I want you to imagine is an arrow, and an arrow, of course, has an arrow head and it has the shaft of that arrow. And in the context of the neuroscience of focus and concentration, the neurochemical system that really represents the shaft of that arrow, right, the straight line, is epinephrine, also called adrenaline, and today I'll refer to adrenaline and epinephrine interchangeably. Turns out that epinephrine/adrenaline are released within your brain from a little location, a little cluster of neurons called locus coeruleus, but you do not need to remember that name, and from your body from the adrenal glands, and the release of epinephrine from those two locations overall increases energy, it increases alertness. It does not alone increase focus. Okay? So, the reason I've assigned epinephrine, adrenaline, as the shaft of the arrow is that if focus is the arrow, there is no focus without epinephrine. So, things, whether or not they're behavioral or psychological or supplements or drugs that increase epinephrine, allow focus to occur. They are necessary for focus, but they are not sufficient for focus. That is, they are required, but they are not enough to create focus. So, we're going to need epinephrine in the equation. Without epinephrine, there is no focus or concentration. Now, the arrow head on this metaphorical arrow head that represents focus and concentration is going to be represented or related to the mechanisms of acetylcholine, a different neurochemical that also exists in the brain and body. In fact, in the body, it's responsible for the contraction and movement of your muscles, but today we're talking about acetylcholine not in that context, but rather in the context of its release within the brain. Acetylcholine is released from a couple of different locations in the brain, and the best way to think about it is it's like a spotlight. It...... highlight specific neurons, nerve cells that should be active, or more active I should say, than the other neurons in the environment. So the reason I've assigned the arrowhead to acetylcholine and acetylcholine to the arrowhead is that if you have an arrow with a very big arrowhead that's really broad, really blunt, imagine a mile-wide arrowhead, that's not very focused on any one location. It's not really pointing to any one location, is it? But with a narrow, really tightly focused arrowhead, well, that's focused on one location. So we have alertness, epinephrine, and then we have the actual direction in which our concentration and focus is placed, and that's, at least in this mental model I'm creating, acetylcholine. And then in order to have ongoing focus, we need another neurochemical, and it turns out that that third neurochemical is dopamine, a molecule often associated with pleasure and reward, but it's really the molecule of motivation. So here, I want you to imagine in your mind an arrow with an arrowhead, think acetylcholine and the arrowhead, a shaft or a line behind that arrowhead, which is epinephrine, also called adrenaline, and then behind it, a sort of an engine that keeps that focus moving forward, right? Because we don't just want to be focused for a moment. We want to be able to focus for 10 minutes or for an hour or maybe even for two hours. Turns out, there's an optimal duration to focus. I'll teach you that in just a little bit. But these three neurochemicals together, acetylcholine, epinephrine, and dopamine, really allow you to get focused, to focus very precisely, and in fact, increasingly precisely over time to really narrow and narrow and narrow your focus progressively within a single bout of focus, and to continue to do that and to be able to do that repeatedly whenever you want. So here, I'm purely talking in- in metaphor and in models and mental models of arrows, but in a moment or two, I'll start transitioning to discussing tools in which I'll talk about increasing dopamine and acetylcholine or increasing epinephrine and dopamine in various combinations with various approaches. And what I'd like you to conceptualize is how those are contributing to creating a very narrowly pointed arrow that has the capacity to continue moving forward over and over so that you can focus as sharply and as long as you like. And of course, for those of you that want to get really down in the weeds of how dopamine works, we have an entire episode about dopamine motivation and drive that really gets into neurotransmitter release and dopamine baselines and thresholds and all of that sort of thing. We also have episodes on focus, much longer episodes, I should say, on focus that incorporate a lot of the biology of acetylcholine. Turns out, acetylcholine is also involved in neuroplasticity, et cetera. And epinephrine, of course, relates to stress and our capacity to deal with and buffer stress and on and on. Those episodes are all available to you in their long form at hubermanlab.com. You can find them very easily. They are all timestamped, so you can navigate to the particular topics most of interest to you. I mention this all not as a diversion from what we want to cover today, but I know that some of you are hungry for a lot more mechanism, but today's episode is really mainly focused on the tools. I will, of course, touch on mechanism, but if you really want to do the deep dive on mechanism, go to hubermanlab.com, and you'll have more than you ever could want
Modulation vs. Mediation, Importance of Sleep
Andrew Huberman 15:15 about those mechanisms. Let's jump into the tools for concentration and focus. If you want to think about tools of any kind to modify your biology or physiology in any way, whether or not it's for cognitive function or you want to get better at exercising, or you want to build muscle, or you want to improve your hormones, you need to think and understand tools in the context of modulation and mediation. What do I mean by that? Well, it's quite simple, really. Mediation is how specific types of chemicals and cells and circuits and organs control very specific things in your brain and body, whereas modulation is the ability of chemicals and cells and circuits to adjust how different things change, how different things work in your brain and body, but to do it more broadly. What do I mean by this? Let me give an example. For instance, I'm going to tell you now that one of the most important things to build and maintain your focus and concentration is to optimize your sleeping behavior, that is to get enough quality sleep, I would say 80% of the nights of your life. Not everyone can get optimal sleep 100% of the nights of their life. Nobody, truly nobody achieves that. However, sleep has been shown to relate to cognitive performance, physical performance, hormone output, and so many other things, including immune system function. What we can reliably say is that sleep modulates just about every process in your brain and body. So you have to get great sleep. There's simply no tool that's going to allow you to overcome chronic sleep deprivation and allow you to remain focused. No pill, no device, no supplement, no protocol whatsoever. There are tools to overcome one night or maybe two nights of sleep deprivation, and we'll talk about those, but at a fundamental level, we need to do the things that modulate our focus and attention in powerful ways, and sleep really is that thing. So we've done two episodes, one called Master Your Sleep, and the other episode is Perfect Your Sleep. The Perfect Your Sleep is a little bit more like this episode, more focused on protocols. Master Your Sleep includes protocols and mechanism. Again, you can find those at hubermanlab.com. We also have a sleep toolkit, a distilled list of things to do in order to optimize your sleep. I highly recommend that you download that. You can go to hubermanlab.com, go to the Neural Network Newsletter. It is listed there. If you want, you can sign up for the newsletter, but you don't have to. You can simply download the PDF of that toolkit for zero cost. Why do I say sleep modulates focus and attention? Well, I'll give an analogy. If right now, someone pulled a fire alarm in this building, or if we had a fire in this building, my attention would drift. It would not be on recording this podcast. It would be on something else. But would I say that the fire alarm mediates attention? I mean, fire alarms are not really involved in attention. No. Rather, they modulate my attention. The noise in the room modulates my attention. That's quite a bit different than a tool that
Tool: Binaural Beats to Improve Concentration
Andrew Huberman 18:11 I'll provide later and I'll just give you a little hint of now. In fact, I'll give it to you now, which is that 40 hertz binaural beats have been shown in a number of peer-reviewed studies to increase focus and concentration. And if you'd like to access 40 hertz binaural beats in order to improve your focus and concentration, you can do that. You can actually get it at zero cost. You can go into the App Store...... for instance, the Apple App Store. Uh, this is also available for Android phone. There's an app called BrainWave, and you can go there. You can dial in 40 hertz, and it'll play these binaural beats. It's been shown in multiple quality peer-reviewed studies that playing a pattern of sound waves to one ear, do-do-do-do-do, and the other ear, which is slightly offset in frequency, meaning not quite the same frequency, so more like do-do-do-do, that that combination of frequencies played to the different ears actually get integrated within deep brain centers and can increase focus and concentration in part by increasing levels of the neurochemical dopamine and acetylcholine, which we talked about a little bit earlier in this arrow model of focus. So, we'll provide a link to that app. I don't have any relationship to that app, I should mention. Uh, but it's an excellent one. It's one that I've used for many years. There are also additional f- functions within the app, such as for sleep and for other things. But the 40 hertz, 4-0-H-Z is the way it reads out, 40-hertz stimulation has been shown to improve focus and concentration. Here is my recommendation and the way that I use it. I would not use 40 hertz binaural beats every time I'm doing a bout of work. What I tend to do is use it for about five minutes prior to that work, and then turn it off and then do the work. And I'll talk about other tools to use during that work, whether or not it's reading or math or even just emailing or something where I require a bunch of focus for a while. However, there are times in which I'm in an area or I'm in a state of mind where I'm feeling very distractable, and then I'll keep the 40-hertz binaural beats on the entire time I'm doing that bout of cognitive work. I'll also sometimes use the 40-hertz binaural beats prior to a workout, in particular weight workouts, where I really want to be able to focus on and contract specific muscles. So it's a very useful tool, again, supported by quality peer-reviewed science, zero cost, available out there, not just in the BrainWave app, but in multiple apps. I think many of you will benefit from it. Some of you might not experience it immediately as a total dropping into a tunnel of focus in the same way that you might with, say, uh, the sorts of neurochemicals that we'll talk about later, like alpha-GPC and some of these other things that change neurochemicals directly. But nonetheless, 40-hertz binaural beats are a very powerful tool, again, zero cost, non-pharmacologic tool that tap into your own endogenous, meaning within you or exists within you, physiology in order to increase acetylcholine and some other neurochemicals. And they have been shown to work quite
Tool: White, Brown & Pink Noise, Transition to Focused State
Andrew Huberman 20:54 well. Okay, so assuming that you are sleeping well 80% of the nights of your life, or at least working on the various protocols and tools to sleep well and sufficiently long 80% of the nights of your life, and you are interested in additional tools that are sound-based in order to improve your ability to concentrate and focus, there are quality peer-reviewed studies supporting the idea that white noise or pink noise... And believe it or not, there is something called pink noise. It has to do with the (laughs) specific frequencies of sound that are in the noise. Well, white noise and pink noise have been shown to not improve concentration per se, but to improve people's ability to transition into concentrated states. So, I don't tend to use white noise and pink noise while I work, but I know a number of people that do. I know people that also use what's called brown noise. Um, (laughs) the folks I know from the engineering and computer science side get really into these details of white noise, pink noise, brown noise. You can find white noise, pink noise, or brown noise and listen to it through headphones or in the room. There is indeed some data to support the fact that white noise, and to some extent, pink noise and brown noise, can support the release of particular neurochemicals but more data showing that they can amplify the activity of neurons in the so-called prefrontal cortex, this front area, sort of the bumper behind your forehead, (laughs) uh, that is directly related to your ability to direct your own focus and remain focused on certain things. So, you have the option of either using binaural beats before, but not during your work, that is 40-hertz binaural beats, or 40-hertz binaural beats throughout your attempt to focus. You also have the option of not using binaural beats, but using white noise, pink noise, or brown noise. Again, there are a lot of zero-cost apps. You can find also white noise, pink noise, and brown noise on YouTube. Again, these are tools that really have been shown over and over in humans to allow people to focus with more depth and to decrease the transition time into focus.
Warm-Up for Cognitive Work, Refocusing Attention & Neuroplasticity
Andrew Huberman 22:55 This is a really key point. A lot of people are challenged with getting into a mode of focus. None of us, however, should be expected to just sit down and drop directly into a state of focus. I think that's completely an unfair request of ourselves. I mean, for instance, you wouldn't expect yourself to go out on the track or go out for a run and not warm up. You might jog for a few minutes or even walk before you would jog and then jog before you would run, right? I would hope you would do that. And if you're doing resistance training, I doubt that you go over and load up the bar or the machine with the maximum amount of weight that you can move and then just drop right in that. You always do a warmup. And I think it's very important to understand mental work, focus, and concentration as requiring that warmup. What is that warmup? Well, you know what that warmup is. That warmup is the ramping up or the increase of epinephrine, adrenaline, acetylcholine, and dopamine, right? The way that neurochemicals work is we don't just get to flip switches in our brain because we decide to. That's a fantasy. That's sort of, of the, The Limitless movie or, um, you know, movies and ideas that suddenly, you know, you're gonna flip a switch on your arm, and all of a sudden you're going to be in a laser focus. That is just not the way that your nervous system works. There's a gradual dropping into any state, whether or not that state is sleep, right? You go from shallow sleep to deep sleep and then out eventually. Focus, too, you go from shallow focus to increasingly deep focus. That is, in our metaphor of the arrow, it's very broad. It's pointed at a lot of things. And over time, as we drop into focus, that arrow is narrowing and narrowing and narrowing. In fact, probably better t- to think about it narrowing and then sometimes oscillating and getting wider again. You know, we might hear something down the hallway, or more typically, our phone will buzz, or we'll think, "Oh, I wonder what so-and-so is doing," or, "I had to contact them about something." Your focus is dynamic. It is not what we call a step function. It's not like you go from unfocused to focused and then you drop into your maximal focus.By understanding this dynamic, by understanding that you are going to be continually going in and out of m- progressively but varying levels of focus, you will greatly release the pressure on yourself to feel focused all the time when you want to be. This is very key. People who are very good at focusing understand this and understand that they can't expect themselves to just immediately focus and then snap into or out of focus. Okay? So be patient with yourself and also understand that focus is an ability, that you can improve your ability to focus by engaging the neural circuits responsible for focus repeatedly over time, through so-called neuroplasticity, the ability of your nervous system to change in response to experience, and that has a couple of different components. But put very simply, what we repeat gets etched into our nervous system and becomes easier over time, and the more emotionally important or vital something feels to us, the more likely it is to trigger neuroplasticity. We're going to talk a little bit more about how to increase neural circuits for focus later, but right now, what you have in hand is the key importance of sleep, and I, again, will direct you to hubermanlab.com and the Neural Network Newsletter to really work on optimizing your sleep. We've also got two auditory sound-based tools for improving focus. There's 40 hertz binaural beats used before or during bouts of focus and concentration, and if you don't like those, or even if you do, you might alternate them with or occasionally use white noise, pink noise, or brown noise, also readily
Tool: Ultradian Cycles: Warm-Up, Maintaining Focus & Deliberate Defocusing
Andrew Huberman 26:14 available at zero cost. A question I often get is, how long should I try to focus? Well, the research literature point to the key importance of so-called ultradian cycles. You've all probably heard of circadian cycles or circadian biology. Circa the day, circadian, is about 24-hour cycle. Well, our brain and body operate within that day, or within each and every day I should say, with 90-minute ultradian cycles. So my suggestion would be, any time you're going to sit down and try and focus, you're going to try and do a focused bout of physical exercise or skill learning or musical learning, or maybe you're even just having a conversation, maybe you're a therapist or you're attending therapy or a class, how long should it be? And the ideal duration is about 90 minutes. Not exactly 90 minutes, but we can reliably say 90 minutes or less. Okay? It doesn't have to be the full 90 minutes. But trying to push yourself to be able to drop into two hours of focus or three hours of focus, while possible, is not really in line with what we know about the underlying biology. Everything from our sleep states or the different stages of sleep and our waking states is divided into these 90-minute cycles or so-called ultradian cycles. So what I like to do is set a timer for 90 minutes. I acknowledge and accept the fact that under most conditions, unless I'm really pressed for a deadline and I'm optimally caffeinated, et cetera, the first 5 to 10 minutes of that 90 minutes are a transition time. It's like the warmup for focus, but I do include it in that 90 minutes, and then I really try and drop into doing focused mental work or learning of some sort. Again, this could be physical as well, motor skill learning, or anything from running or lifting weights, et cetera, and really try and drop into that across the full 90 minutes, again, accepting the fact, okay, it's not just an idea, the fact that occasionally our focus will flicker. It will jump out of focus and then a big part of being able to focus is to go back to focusing. The way I'd like you to conceptualize this perhaps is that arrowhead suddenly getting very, very broad, that you're focusing on many things, or that arrow shifts to a different location in the room. The key is to be able to shift it back and to narrow it once again. And that's an active process, so much so that it requires a lot of metabolic energy. Your brain is the chief consumer of metabolic energy. Uh (laughs) , the calories that you consume, your so-called basal metabolic rate, most of that isn't related to movement or heartbeat or breathing. It's related to brain function. Your brain is a glutton with respect to caloric need. So understand that at the end of 90 minutes or maybe even after 45 minutes, you might feel rather tired or even exhausted, and it's very important that after a bout of focus, that you take at least 10 minutes and ideally as long as 30 minutes and go through what I call deliberate defocus. You really want to focus on somewhat menial tasks or things that really don't require a ton of your concentration. This is starting to become a little bit of a movement out there in the kind of pop psychology and optimization world, this idea of not looking at your phone as you walk down the hall to the bathroom, certainly not looking at your phone in the bathroom. And I should mention, by the way, uh, this is a, a particular annoyance of mine, have you noticed that wait times for restrooms in public places has increased substantially in the last 10 years? The reason for that is not digestive, okay? It's not the gut microbiome. I mean, it might be the gut microbiome. But chances are, it's because people are on their phones in the bathroom, so you're doing yourself and everybody else a favor by staying off your phone in the restroom, staying off your phone (laughs) while walking down the hall. Try and give yourself some time to deliberately decompress, to let your mental states idle, to not be focused on any one thing. That period of idling is essential for your ability to focus, much in the same way that rest between sets of resistance training or rest between exercise is vital to being able to focus and perform during the actual sets or during the actual bouts of running or cycling or whatever, uh, your particular form of exercise might be. So deliberate decompression is key, and I know this is hard because we're all being drawn in by the incredible, uh, rich array of sensory information available on our phones and other devices, but I can't emphasize this enough, our ability to focus is not just related to what happens during the entry and movement through those focused bouts, but after those focused bouts we really need to deliberately decompress. And of course, the ultimate decompress, the time in which we are not directing our thinking and our action, is during sleep. And so it's no wonder, or I should say it holds together logically that that deep, long-lasting duration of not controlling where our mind is at is in fact the ultimate form of restoration, even if we have very intense dreams. So take that period after each...90-minute or less focus bout, right? Remember, those focus bouts don't have to be full 90 minutes. Let's say you do 45 minutes of work, you're just done with it, set it down, and go do something for maybe five, 10, maybe even 30 minutes that is functional for your day, right? Just- not just walking around in circles or staring up at the sky, although if you can do that, do that. Most of us have other things to do, but do things that are rather automatic or reflexive for you, and try not to do any focused reading, try not to bring your vision into a tight location such as your phone, and try and deliberately decompress, because that will allow you to drop into intense bouts of focus again repeatedly and repeatedly throughout
How Many Daily Ultradian Cycles Can One Perform?
Andrew Huberman 31:22 the day. I'm often asked how many ultradian cycles one can perform throughout the day. That depends on how well you've slept, how well you are nourished, which we'll talk about in a moment, and how well trained up your focus capacity is. And here's the paradox. If you are very trained at focusing, if you're very good at dropping into focus, you're actually going to need more deliberate decompression and defocus, and I recommend only doing about two, maybe three deep work sessions per day. So not one 90-minute session then expecting yourself to do another one, another one, another one, but rather, one deep work 90-minute session, and maybe another in the afternoon. A lot of people get surprised by this and say, "Wait, how many people can afford to just work three hours a day?" I'm not saying just work three hours a day. I'm really talking about the hard mental work. And again, somewhat paradoxically, the more you can concentrate, the more deeply you can concentrate, the fewer deep work concentration bouts you can actually perform each day. It makes sense, however, if you think about it in the context of, say, resistance training. If you are stronger and stronger in the gym, or you're an endurance athlete and you can run, you know, ultra-marathons, 100 miles or so, you are essentially cutting a deeper cut into your recovery capacity than somebody who's not very skilled at those things or can't perform as much intense work. So, the intensity of the work scales directly with how long you need to rest after that work. I, at this stage of my life, am pretty good at dropping into and maintaining focus bouts of concentration, provided the landscape of my life is right, you know, I don't have some burning stressful thing that's essential, or an emergency that I'm tending to, and that I put my phone away or turn it off. I can do three 90-minute focus bouts per day, but that's about it, and then in between those focus bouts, I'm doing other things that require less focus. Some of you may be able to perform four. What I highly recommend is that you try doing at least one, that is one 90-minute or less bout of focused concentrated work per day, and yes, that means the weekends too, and on the weekends I like to read a book with my phone nowhere in sight, not on a device. That's what I do. Or I'll listen to an audiobook sometimes while taking a walk, but really concentrating on what I'm trying to learn, what I'm hearing, and what I'm seeing. So again, a daily 90-minute bout is one to start with, and then I would say after about four weeks of that, if you're able to stay concentrated and work through the agitation, then I would consider increasing the number of focus bouts. Again, this is not to say that you should go to your teacher or your, um, PhD advisor or your parent or your friends and say, "Listen, I- I can't really concentrate or think about anything for more than 90 minutes per day." That's not what I'm saying. These are deep focus bouts. These are bouts of work, or I should say mental work or physical work, where you're really forcing yourself to focus and refocus, to sharpen the head of that arrowhead, to redirect it to what you're trying to concentrate on, and it is indeed hard work. I would even think about it more or less like a workout
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Virtusan: Mental & Physical Health Journeys
Andrew Huberman 35:35 that special offer. I'd like to call your attention to a new and extremely useful tool for learning and applying science-based protocols for mental health, physical health, and performance. It's called Virtusan, V-I-R-T-U-S-A-N, and it's an app, and inside the app, you'll find what are called Journeys. Each Journey is aimed at a specific goal, such as improving your sleep, or tracking your sleep, or improving your ability to focus and concentrate, or improving your nutrition, or specific exercise programs. The Virtusan app makes a lot of the protocols that you've seen here on the Huberman Lab Podcast and elsewhere very easy to understand and access and practice, and in fact, it tracks your progress with each of these protocols. I and several other researchers have been directly involved in developing the specific Journeys and protocols that you'll find within the Virtusan app. In fact, a lot of it involves direct video tutorials from me and others that you'll recognize from social media and from podcasts. Everything that you'll find within the Virtusan app is geared towards giving you the latest science in simple, straightforward protocols to allow you to improve your mental health, physical health, and performance. If you want to check it out, you can go to the App Store under Virtusan, again, that's spelled V-I-R-T-U-S-A-N, or you can go to virtusan.com/huberman. Again, that's virtusan.com/huberman.
Tool: Fasted vs. Fed States & Focus, Prevent an Afternoon Crash, Ketosis
Andrew Huberman 36:53 I mentioned the topic of nutrition a little bit ago, and of course, nutrition is a complicated topic. In fact, one of the quickest ways to get yourself (laughs) into a battle online is to say something definitive about nutrition. I just want to clearly state my stance about nutrition.I fully support and applaud those of you that are vegans for whatever reason, those of you that are pure carnivore for whatever reason, and those of you that are omnivores for whatever reason. I happen to be an omnivore. My goal is always to eat high-quality, minimally or non-processed foods, and to eat things in moderation, so I do eat some meat from sustainable sources or from organic sources. I eat, uh, some starches, and I eat vegetables, and I eat fruits. I try not to eat sugars, and I don't really like highly processed foods at this point in my life. That's me, that's what I do, but I'm certainly not dictating what people should eat. I know certain people are ketogenic, and I can say that for people who achieve ketosis and can get into ketosis, yes indeed, there is a mental state associated with ketosis that will allow your brain to function and to think really clearly that many people find very attractive and keep them going back over and over again to a ketogenic diet. I'm somebody who, for instance, has not been in ketosis many times in my life, at least not deliberately so, but I actually will ingest liquid ketones from time to time because of the further cognitive enhancement or physical enhancement that I experience on top of nutrition that does include some carbohydrates. So, there are a lot of different ways to approach all this. Whether or not you're a vegan, omnivore, vegetarian, carnivore, et cetera, the point is this, your ability to focus and, in fact, your ability of neurons to encode specific information in your environment, that is to represent what's out there in the world, is actually related to your blood glucose level. Now, here I'm setting aside the discussion of ketosis and- and ketogenic diets for the moment, but there's a beautiful study that was published in Neuron not long ago that showed that the tuning, that is the precision with which neurons in the brain represent things in our environment, is actually much greater when there is sufficient glucose in the brain. Translated into English, this means that when we are fasted or when our blood glucose is very low, we aren't able to perceive and think about things as clearly. Now, there's a twist to this, however. Many people who practice intermittent fasting, and I should say, I practice a sort of pseudo-intermittent fasting. I generally eat my meals between the hours of 11:00 AM and 8:00 PM, although sometimes there's some wiggle around that. Occasionally I have an early breakfast. I'm not super rigid about it. But I know there are a number of people who are doing longer fasts or they're eating in a six-hour window. We did an entire episode about fasting. You can again find that at hubermanlab.com. We'll likely have Satchin Panda, who's an expert in intermittent fasting, on the podcast. Intermittent fasting has a lot of different potential benefits. For some people, it's a convenient way to restrict their calories. For other people, it's a convenient way to avoid eating, that is, it's easier to not eat than to eat a small portion, so they opt for intermittent fasting, and so on and so forth. But one of the things that you hear very often is that some people like being fasted because they like the clarity of mind that it provides. Here's the situation. Neurons, unless you're in a ketogenic diet, really thrive on glucose. They love glucose. And as I mentioned before, your ability to think and perceive things is actually enhanced by having sufficient glucose in your bloodstream. So, why would it be that some people experience a heightened state of mental clarity when they are fasted? I've certainly experienced that before. Well, I should say that provided you're well-hydrated enough and you have enough electrolytes in your system, what tends to happen is that when you ingest food, there's a shift in your nervous system towards so-called parasympathetic mode. That is, the more relaxed, you probably heard it as rest and digest, although it does other things, a more relaxed mode that can indeed make us very sleepy. If we have too many carbohydrates, it actually can make us quite sleepy. However, if we have any food, if we have enough of it, that is if our gut is full, it diverts blood to our gut, and we become sleepy and we can't focus as well. So, a lot of people really like fasting and the state of being fasted for focus and concentration because they don't have as much of that s- parasympathetic activation. They're just not as sleepy. And in fact under those conditions, half as much caffeine will give you just as much lift as twice as much caffeine will give you on a full belly of pasta. And that's just the way that caffeine interacts with blood glucose. So, what I'd like you to imagine is if you had a measure of focus from 0 to 10, these are arbitrary units, 10 being maximally focused and 0 being not focused at all, imagine a U-shaped function, right, where if you're very fasted, you're going to have a high degree of focus and concentration, but then if you ingest some food and your belly is full, your focus and concentration is reduced. But having enough blood glucose and maybe even elevated blood glucose will increase cognitive function. So, there are two ends of the spectrum. On one end of the spectrum, blood glucose is relatively low and you're fasted and you can think and behave in a very concentrated way, and on the other end of the spectrum, you have a lot of blood glucose, or I should say sufficient blood glucose, you never want your blood glucose to be too high, and that allows your neurons to encode and perceive and basically allow you to think really clearly. So, you sort of have to pick your condition. What do you want for your bouts of focus and concentration? I actually do both. So, what I do is, as I mentioned before, I eat my meal sometime around 11:00 AM, my first meal typically, unless I'm very hungry when I wake up, and so I will do my workout and one bout of focused work. I always th- think of this as my hard work early in the day, and I do that fasted. I'll be consuming water with electrolytes, maybe LMNT or other electrolytes, maybe some caffeine as well in the form of yerba mate or coffee. That's my first focus bout of 90 minutes or less. That is essentially done fasted. And then I'll eat and then I do notice after I eat, I actually have a diminished capacity to focus, but then again in the afternoon, I will do another 90-minute bout of focus. And I'll talk about some of the tools I use to make sure that that bout of focus is optimal for getting the most amount of focused work done, whether or not it's mental work or physical work, although I tend to do my physical work early in the day and my mental work both early and late in the day. So, to make this very simple, or as simple as I can for you, being fasted is great for focus and concentration provided you're not thinking about food the entire time, and being fed is terrific for focus and concentration, actually can improve neuronal function provided that you didn't eat too much food. So, one way to manage this is if you're going to have a lunch, to make sure that you don't stuff yourself at lunch (laughs) , that you're not overeating and to not get q-... quite so full that you push your nervous system into this para-sympathetic mode and make it hard to focus in the afternoon. I know a lot of people experience a dip or even a crash in energy in the afternoon that make it really hard to focus. For that reason, I'll just remind people of a tool I've talked about many times before, which is based on the biology of adenosine and caffeine, et cetera, which is to delay your first caffeine intake to 90 to 120 minutes after waking up. I know that can be painful for certain people. I violate that rule when I'm working out very early in the morning. I'll drink my caffeine before my workout, which often occurs within, you know, 30 to 60 minutes of waking. But, in general, unless I'm working out very early, I will ingest my caffeine 90 to 120 minutes after I wake up. So again, I want to emphasize that if you hear somebody out there say, "Being fasted is optimal for focus and concentration," well, that is true in one context, and perhaps ideal for a certain part of the day. And other people will say, "No, you know, neurons run on glucose. You need glucose in your bloodstream in order to get those neurons to be tuned, that is, to respond with electrical activity in the optimal way when you're reading something or when you're trying to perform exercises." Well, that's also true, and of course, you can incorporate both. I, in fact, as I just described, incorporate both fasted states and fed states in order to optimize my concentration and focus. And as a brief note about ketosis, for those of you that actually manage to transition into ketosis and are maintaining a ketogenic state, that, as I mentioned earlier, can enhance brain function, concentration, and focus because of the way in which ketones can be used as a so-called optimal fuel for neurons. The ketogenic diet was originally designed, if you will, for epilepsy. It has a whole relationship to epilepsy and controlling epileptic seizures, and it can, in fact, allow people to achieve focused, concentrated brain states. So in the future, I'll do an episode about ketosis and be sure to circle back on how to optimize ketosis for focus and concentration, although I have to believe that most of the people listening to this are probably not in ketosis or following a ketogenic diet, so that's why I mainly focused on fasted states and fed states. And just to make sure that I'm thorough, a fasted state to me would be a state in which you haven't ingested any calories, but may have ingested caffeine or maybe even a small amount of artificial sweetener or something like that, but really haven't ingested any significant number of calories in the previous four to eight or maybe even 12 hours. And again, there's tremendous variation here depending on how long people have fasted, whether or not we're talking about the state right after people wake up, et cetera. Again, if you're interested in intermittent fasting both for sake of mental and physical health and performance, check out our episode on fasting at hubermanlab.com. I also want
Tool: Foods to Improve Focus & Regulating Food Volume
Andrew Huberman 45:52 to touch back on this idea of which foods can increase focus. You know, in the episode on ADHD that I did, I touched on this quite a bit as it relates to elimination diets. You know, there's a whole industry and a ton of interest, for obvious reasons, into what sorts of things kids and adults should and shouldn't eat in order to reduce symptoms of ADHD. I think that the sum total of those data point to the fact that reducing simple sugar intake and certainly highly processed foods, so ice cream, candy, chips, et cetera, those sorts of things really does seem to improve symptoms of ADHD in both children and adults. But once you move past that and you start to say, "Well, which foods can improve concentration and focus?" Well, foods that, for instance, include a lot of tyrosine, which is a precursor to dopamine, and now you know why dopamine is important in this context, are certainly going to increase concentration and focus, so things like Parmesan cheese, certain meats, certain nuts. You can look up which foods, uh, contain high amounts of tyrosine. There are also some fruits and vegetables that include high amounts of tyrosine. But, to be quite direct, it doesn't matter whether or not you're ingesting foods that are rich in the precursor amino acids to dopamine, acetylcholine, et cetera if you are consuming large amounts of those foods. That is, one can look and see, for instance, that a steak includes a lot of the precursors to acetylcholine. It has amino acid precursors to dopamine as well, and there are other foods that will do that as well. But if I were to ingest, say, two rib eye steaks, that's a lot of meat, and it will direct a lot of blood to my gut, and it will cause me to be sleepy, and that will create challenges in me being able to achieve states of focus and concentration. So the simple way to put this is, if you eat too much or you eat a very large volume of food, you are going to diminish your focus and concentration. Okay? The key is to eat enough that you're nourished for the certain activities, mental and physical, that you need to perform. But if you're eating large meals, you are going to diminish your concentration and focus,
Tool: Caffeine & Focused Work, Dopamine Efficacy, Alertness
Andrew Huberman 47:53 period. I know many people are curious as to whether or not caffeine can improve focus and concentration, and indeed it can. There is an immense amount of data supporting the idea that caffeine, provided it's consumed in the appropriate dosages, can improve mental performance and physical performance, and it largely does that through improvements in focus and concentration. The dosage of caffeine, of course, is going to depend on how caffeine-adapted you are, how much caffeine tolerance you have, and that is going to vary tremendously.... depending on whether or not you ingest that caffeine with or without food, as I mentioned earlier. But there is a kind of general range in which we can talk about caffeine as being useful for focus and concentration, and the range is basically from 100 milligrams to 400 milligrams. I want to caution everybody out there, if you're somebody who suffers from anxiety or panic attacks and you're not used to ingesting caffeine and you run out and ingest 400 milligrams of caffeine in the form of espresso or yerba mate or an energy drink or in pill form, that is going to be very uncomfortable for you. You're going to be sweating profusely, your heart rate is going to increase, you're going to be quite panicked, uh, in fact, or at least anxious. So be cautious with your use and adopting of caffeine if you're not already caffeine-adapted. But most people do quite well to ingest 100 to 200 milligrams of caffeine prior to doing some focused work. And again, I recommend delaying your caffeine intake to 90 to 120 minutes after waking, unless you are using that caffeine to really jolt your system, uh, before a workout. Caffeine can, of course, be ingested in various forms, even pill form. But most people ingest it in the form of coffee, or my particular favorite way to ingest caffeine is yerba mate. Um, it is important, and I should note, that you should a- actively avoid the smoked versions of yerba mate, as they contain a lot of carcinogenic, cancer-promoting compounds. There's some great yerba mate brands out there that most cost-effective way to consume it would be to use the loose leaf tea and to, to pour water over that. There's one particular brand that I like, I don't have any affiliation to them whatsoever, but I've been using it for years, it's Anna Park. It's an organic brand that is sold, I buy mine on Amazon, you can find it elsewhere on the internet as well. Again, I don't have any affiliation to them, it's just very cost-effective, very clean, it doesn't have the smoked flavor, at least the one that I buy is not the smoked variety, so none of the carcinogenic compounds are in there, at least that I'm aware of. And I like the way it tastes, and it provides a very even lift and, and stimulant, uh, that I think certainly works for me and that a number of people I know that I've suggested it to also enjoy. Yerba mate or caffeine also have other additional benefits. In particular, the caffeine in yerba mate and coffee and other sources of caffeine are known to increase the density and efficacy, that is, the number and the function of dopamine receptors. And this has been shown in humans several times. So by ingesting caffeine pretty regularly, you're actually increasing the ability of dopamine to have this effect of increasing motivation and drive. I tend to ingest caffeine only early in the day. I tend to cut off my caffeine intake somewhere around 1:00 or 2:00 PM to ensure that I can get into a good night's sleep. But I realize that there are people out there that ingest caffeine as late as 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon and can still sleep fine. I will caution those of you that think that you can drink caffeine in the evening or nighttime and still fall asleep, all of the research points to the fact that the architecture of your sleep and the depth of your sleep is disrupted. Even if you're able to s- fall and stay asleep, the sleep you're getting is simply not as good as the sleep you would get if you were to shut off your caffeine intake at least eight hours before bedtime, and ideally more like 10 or even 12 hours before bedtime. But of course, there are practical s- constraints as well. Okay, so caffeine is increasing dopamine's function by changing the number and efficacy of dopamine receptors. But of course, it also increases our wakefulness, our alertness, and that is largely through the neurochemical systems related to adenosine, which is a molecule that builds up in our brain and body the longer we are awake. It's part of the sleepiness system, if you will, makes us feel fatigued or tired. And caffeine also operates on the epinephrine, the adrenaline system. In fact, if we ingest too much caffeine, we'll sometimes get the jitters. Those jitters are really the sympathetic, as it's called, nervous system's bias toward movement, and our pupils will dilate, they actually get broader. Now, somewhat paradoxically, when our pupils get bigger, the pupils of our eyes, that is, our visual world actually narrows, it becomes more tunnel-like. A lot of people don't realize this. When our pupils are really small, that means we are relaxed. So if you ever see someone with really tiny s- or, you know, pin-sized pupils, they are very relaxed. If their pupils are very big, they're very dilated, well then, they are very amped up. They're v- they are very, very alert. Caffeine increases alertness by increasing epinephrine, adrenaline release both in the brain and within the body. And so that's another way that it facilitates focus and concentration.
Tool: Stress & Improved Concentration
Andrew Huberman 52:55 Now, there are other ways to increase epinephrine in the brain and body besides caffeine or other stimulants, and in fact, that has been studied. There's an excellent study that was carried out not that long ago on how stress itself can increase our ability to focus and concentrate. That's right, how stress itself can increase focus and concentration. You know, most people think of stress as impairing our ability to focus, but that's actually not true. When we are stressed, it involves the deployment, the release of adrenaline, epinephrine, and that adrenaline both changes our visual field, in other words, it narrows our vision to a more tunnel-like focus, that is, it makes the arrow in our metaphor of the arrow more sharp, and it improves our concentration. This makes sense given what we know about stress. When we're stressed, we tend to be stressed about a specific thing. We start anticipating or wondering or thinking about what's going to happen next, what led up to this, how is this going to impact me, how do I feel right now? It really narrows the context of our thinking and our behavior. So one of my favorite studies that really illustrates how stress can improve concentration and performance is one that was published not that long ago, and I will provide a link to this in the show notes. It's a p- paper published in the journal Experimental Psychology in 2020. The title of the paper is, not surprisingly, Acute Stress Improves Concentration Performance. First author, de Groot, D-E-G-R-O-O-T-E. And this study involved taking a number of subjects and stressing them out, or not, prior to a cognitive or concentration task. And there are a lot of data in this paper, but I'm just going to home in on one specific set of data. And I should mention as I go there that they measured things like cortisol, a stress hormone, they measured anxiety. Uh, it was a quite thorough study. And what they found was that concentration performance improved many fold...... I should say, from- there was a greater than doubling of concentration and performance in the stress group. And stress in this context was provided using a standard way of inducing stress. What they basically do is they bring subjects into the laboratory, and they have to, uh, either do something fairly mundane in the control group, or they have to do a simulated job interview, an arithmetic task, and they're being evaluated as they're doing this. So this isn't, you know, intense psychosocial stress. You know, they're not watching anything disturbing. They're not being traumatized in any kind of way. This is fairly low levels of stress that raise their levels of epinephrine, and we know this, uh, from this study, and their levels of cortisol, another stress hormone, modestly within their brain and blood. But that even modest increase in these stress hormones and their reported psychological levels of stress really enhanced their focus and concentration. This may come as surprising 'cause you- like many people think, "Gosh, stress really diminishes cognitive performance." But that's absolutely wrong. Stress improves cognitive performance.
Tool: Deliberate Cold Exposure & Focus, Dopamine & Epinephrine
Andrew Huberman 55:46 Now, of course there are other ways to increase stress levels and to do that in healthy ways to improve concentration and performance. And one of the best ways to do that, because it's so surefire and it's generally safe, provided you do it safely, is deliberate cold exposure. This is something I've talked about on the podcast before. But deliberate cold exposure can be achieved by getting into a cold shower for one to five minutes. If you're not used to it, you probably want to start with one minute. Uh, or you can get into an ice bath, or in nowadays, there are a number of different commercial sources of circulating cold water, or if you have access to a body of cold water, like a lake or a pool or an ocean. We know that getting into cold water or under cold water greatly increases epinephrine levels and dopamine levels in the brain and blood. There's a beautiful study that was published in the European Journal of Physiology that showed that the increases in dopamine are massive, you know, uh, uh, near doubling or more of dopamine levels that are very long-lasting, for hours. And epinephrine and, indeed, cortisol levels are also increased, and in ways that support not just immune system function because they do that but- and mood because it does that, but they can really improve concentration and focus. I touched on this a little bit in an episode about memory, that there is an age-old practice, really dating back to medieval times, of putting people into cold water right after they learn something in order to spike, to increase their epinephrine as a way to consolidate those memories. For sake of today's discussion, if you're interested in ways to improve focus and concentration, you need to in- increase your epinephrine, your adrenaline levels. Cold water exposure is one of the most efficient ways to do that. This is not a biohack. Uh, I don't like the word hack. Uh, I know it's commonly used. But a hack is something where you're using one thing for a different purpose than it was originally intended for. And here, I'm not referring to the shower, the cold bathroom. I'm referring to epinephrine. Epinephrine is a neurochemical that will place your vision into more of a tunnel mode, which will allow you to focus on cognitive work or physical work in a more specific way. You're not going to be as distractable. And it's very easy to achieve by getting into a cold shower or cold body of water for a brief period of time. People always ask how long to get under or into cold water and how cold to make it. Here's the thing. It should be uncomfortably cold but safe to stay in for one to five minutes. Okay? So uncomfortably cold that you really want to get out but safe to stay in, not so cold that it's going to give you a heart attack and not so warm that it's comfortable, that it doesn't create that adrenaline release. Cold water exposure, I should say deliberate cold water or non-deliberate cold water exposure, reliably increases epinephrine levels. It is incredibly useful as a tool for this. And it is, in fact, zero cost or even negative zero cost. How can it be negative zero cost? Well, you can certainly save on your heating bill by taking a cold shower. So that's one way. And for those of you that have access to devices or locations where you can get into cold water, you can submerge, well, then that can work. For those of you that don't, maybe you take a cold bath, you get in up to your neck. That's going to be most efficient. For those of you that can't do that, you'll get under a cold shower. Again, it should be uncomfortably cold to the point where you want to get out but that you can safely stay in for one to five minutes. How long should you do it before a work bout? Well, if you get into really cold water, it's uncomfortably cold, and get out after about three minutes, you're probably good to go. Dry off and get to work. Some of you might think this is a little bit silly as a tool for focus and concentration. But if you look at the data on epinephrine and how powerfully it can increase focus, I think you'd be very impressed. I mean, it certainly can increase one's ability to attend to specific visual stimuli. So for reading or math work, et cetera, it's going to be very useful. Now, of course, you don't want to make it so cold that you're shivering and chattering the whole time. And of course, you could, if you like, combine this with 40 hertz binaural beats. There's no reason why you couldn't combine the two protocols. But the point here is that a lot of people would love to, and I think ought to, leverage the health promoting and powerful effects of increasing epinephrine on focus and concentration. And running out and getting stressed by a life event or getting into an argument or something like that simply as a way to increase focus and concentration doesn't seem that adaptive to me. So deliberate cold exposure is a straightforward way to do that. It doesn't involve anyone else. I suppose you could do it with somebody else, but it doesn't require anyone else. And again, there are zero, low, and even negative cost ways to approach that. If you'd like to know how long the positive effects of epinephrine last toward improving focus and concentration, well, if we look to that study from de Groot et al., the Acute Stress Improves Cognitive Performance study, they measured concentration before and 30 minutes after the stress was induced.And there does appear to be a quite long-lasting, really up to an hour or more, effect of increasing epinephrine.
Layer Focusing Tools & Design Your Own Protocols
Andrew Huberman 1:00:39 So, how might you apply these sorts of protocols early in the day or later in the day? Well, one suggestion or one potential protocol would be if you're going to sit down and do some work, i- if you're already feeling alert and focused, no need to reach to this tool. But if you're feeling like your focus and alertness isn't quite where you'd like it to be, you could take a three-minute very cold shower or submerge yourself in cold water for three minutes. You might have a cup of coffee as well, and then sit down and do that work, maybe even throw in the 40 hertz binaural beats. All of that would be layering in the different systems, the different neurochemicals, such as acetylcholine, epinephrine, and dopamine that are going to lend themselves to a really terrific 90-minute or less workabout.
Tool: Short Meditation & Improved Ability to Refocus
Andrew Huberman 1:01:19 Now, I'd like to discuss some of the purely behavioral tools that quality peer-reviewed science say can improve focus and concentration significantly. At the beginning of today's episode, I talked about the study from Dr. Wendy Suzuki's lab, where they explored a 13-minute meditation done every day for a period of eight weeks. That meditation led to significant improvements in focus and concentration ability, as well as other aspects of cognitive performance. It also improved mood and reduced stress. So, you might be wondering, "What exactly is this meditation?" The meditation is very simple, and it's one that anyone can perform. What you would want to do is set a timer for about 13 minutes. I don't think it has to be exactly 13 minutes, but since that's what they included in the study. You would set a timer for 13 minutes. You would sit or lie down, close your eyes, and you would simply focus on your breathing. Most people are going to benefit from only doing that breathing through their nose. But if you have some sort of obstruction or inability to breathe just through your nose, you could probably also do it by breathing through your nose and mouth or just your mouth. But ideally, you would do just nasal breathing for a period of 13 minutes, concentrating on that breathing. And concentrating, meaning bringing your awareness, your so-called interoceptive awareness, if you wanted to get really, uh, technical about it, your interoceptive awareness to a point just about an inch inside of your forehead. Now, of course, that might sound kind of gory to some of you. You've never actually been inside your forehead. But just about an inch behind your forehead is where you would want to place your concentration while also concentrating on your breathing. Now, here's the thing about meditation that all studies of meditation show, which is that unless you are a very experienced meditator, your concentration, your focus will drift away from your breathing and away from that location about an inch inside your head, inside your brain about just behind your forehead. That will happen maybe every 10 seconds, every 20 seconds, maybe even every five seconds. But an important part of such a meditation practice to improve concentration and focus is that you are continually refocusing back to that specific location and refocusing back on your breath. This is something that, again, is not often discussed. People think that if you do a meditation and you're supposed to concentrate on your breath, that if your mind drifts, that somehow you failed in that meditation. But actually, that's not the case. A huge component of improving your ability to focus and concentrate by way of neural plasticity, rewiring of the circuits for focus and concentration, is the repeated return to a state of focus from a state of non-focus or diminished focus. Okay? So, think about it like trying to drive down the freeway and staying between the la- lane lines, excuse me. And every once in a while, because there's a bit of drift on the vehicle, that maybe the wheels aren't aligned correctly or there's something else wrong with the chassis or the steering device, it starts to drift right a little bit. Then you hit the rumble strip to... And then you pull back to the center. That's really what a focused meditation practice is about, as opposed to expecting yourself to stay between the mental lane lines, so to speak. So, if you're somebody who's going to do a practice of the sort that I described, you know, 13-minute meditation practice every day, you'd want to sit or lie down, close your eyes, start to concentrate on your breath, focus your attention on a location about an inch behind your forehead. And then fully expect that at some point, you'll be thinking about something else, and that's a cue to focus back to that location just about an inch behind your forehead and back to your breath. By doing that repeatedly over and over, what you're really training up is the network within your brain that indeed includes that prefrontal cortex that you're focusing on, as well as some other structures, the inferotemporal cortex, indeed the hippocampus, a structure associated with memory, and other components of the neural circuit that are involved in directing our mental focus and concentration. Again, I can't emphasize the importance of this practice being one of focusing and refocusing. In fact, I would prefer to call such a practice a refocus focus meditation (laughs) or a constantly refocusing. Or maybe you c- all can come up with a better name for it. I'm certainly not that good at naming things. But this sort of meditation practice has been shown in the study by the Suzuki lab and other studies to really improve people's ability to focus and remain focused. So much so that in the beautiful book, Altered States, they describe a number of different meditation practices, some a little bit longer than the one that I described, one that's 17 minutes, another one that's 30 minutes. Some people meditate as long as 60 minutes a day, although that's quite a long time, in my opinion. The point here isn't how long you focus or somehow trying to achieve total focus for the entire 13-minute or 17-minute or 60-minute bout of meditation. While that would be wonderful, and I think many people aspire to do that, that's a lot of hard mental work. I think for most people out there, including myself, a relatively short meditation practice of about...... 13 minutes, in which you fully expect your focus and concentration to drift but that you are continually refocusing, is going to be the most effective, yes, indeed the most effective at teaching yourself to focus and stay concentrated. In fact, I invite you to interpret every time that you focus off that location about one inch behind your forehead as an opportunity to refocus and think about the refocusing as the trigger for teaching your neural circuits how to focus for extended periods of time. And as a bonus to that sort of meditation practice, the study from Wendy Suzuki's lab also showed that people experienced improvements in sleep and improvements in memory. So not just improvements in mood, and reduction in stress, and improvements in focus and concentration, but all these other positive benefits from just doing that 13-minute-a-day meditation practice. It's one that I started to adopt and have felt tremendous benefit from and that I encourage many of you to try as well. The one cautionary note is the one that I mentioned at the beginning of the episode, which is because the refocus, as I'll call it, meditation does involve a significant amount of effort and engagement of these prefrontal cortical circuits, it is disruptive to sleep if performed too closely to sleep. So if you are going to do that practice, I recommend that you not do it within the four hours prior to
Tool: Yoga Nidra, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR) & Defocus Periods
Andrew Huberman 1:07:40 your bedtime. Earlier, I mentioned that I would talk about ways to improve focus if you are sleep-deprived. This is something that I'm all too familiar with. You know, I put a lot of effort into optimizing my sleep. That's something that with each passing year I put more and more effort into, again, because sleep is so vital for mental health, physical health, and performance of all kinds. But certainly in my role as a student, in my role as a professor, and in my role in life, I've had numerous times in which I simply did not get enough sleep or my sleep was terrible for whatever reason, and yet I still had work demands and social demands, et cetera. One practice that is very effective at allowing you to focus better than you would otherwise under conditions of sleep deprivation is so-called non-sleep deep rest, or NSDR. This is also referred to sometimes as yoga nidra. Yoga nidra actually means yoga sleep. Yoga nidra is a practice of lying down for about 10 to 30, sometimes even as long as 60 minutes. You listen to a script, it's an audio script that takes you through a progressive deep relaxation. It involves a body scan, some long exhale breathing. It is very restorative in the sense that one tends to emerge from yoga nidra or NSDR feeling greatly refreshed compared to how you felt prior to it. There is also terrific neuroimaging data from laboratories in Denmark showing that there's a restoration of dopamine levels in the so-called basal ganglia after NSDR, aka yoga nidra. Whether or not you call it yoga nidra or NSDR, which is what I refer to it as, non-sleep deep rest, you can find these scripts at zero cost multiple places. You can find, there are certain apps that are NSDR or yoga nidra apps. There is a NSDR protocol that was put out there by Madefor, which is on YouTube, that you can access for free. There is a NSDR, or I should say a number of NSDR protocols through the Virtusan app. There are, again, a number of different places that one can access NSDR protocols. I do NSDR for 10 to 30 minutes per day every single day, not just on days where I'm sleep-deprived. If I happen to be sleep-deprived, I would extend that NSDR to 30 or 60 minutes. And when you do that NSDR will depend on when you have time for that NSDR. When I haven't slept well, what I'll try and do is find a quiet place where I can do NSDR for 30 or ideally 60 minutes. Sometimes I will fall back asleep during that NSDR. That's fine if you do that. But most people will stay awake during the NSDR, and then I'll emerge from that and go about my day. If in the afternoon I'm very fatigued because of lack of sleep, I might do another NSDR of 10 to 30 or 60 minutes, and then another workout. Again, NSDR is something I do every day. I talk a lot about this in the episodes related to sleep, because it can help you get better at falling and staying asleep at night, in addition to feeling restorative in that immediate timeframe of the day in which you do n- NSDR. So it's immensely beneficial at various times and for various purposes. But here within the context of trying to concentrate and focus when you're sleep-deprived, NSDR, aka yoga nidra, is an immensely beneficial practice. There's growing amounts of quality science pointing to the neurochemical replenishing effects, as I mentioned before, dopamine, but also the potential for NSDR to replace sleep that you've lost. I would never want anyone to try and use NSDR as a total replacement for sleep, but under conditions in which you cannot control your sleep, NSDR is going to be the best way that I am aware of to restore your ability to focus and concentrate for whatever purpose. And if you emerge from your NSDR and then drink some caffeine, you'll notice an even greater capacity for focus and concentration for all the reasons directly related to caffeine. So again, NSDR is a general tool for enhancing your ability to sleep, and it's a tool that you can use in order to compensate for, at least to some degree, compensate for lost sleep when you need to focus and concentrate. One thing that really contrasts NSDR and yoga nidra with the sort of focus meditation that I talked about a few minutes ago, the 13-minute meditation, is that during the 13-minute meditation you're actively trying to refocus and focus, whereas during NSDR and yoga nidra you're actually trying to de-focus. So you can think of the 13-minute meditation for refocusing and focusing as directly tapping into and mediating improvements in the circuitry for focus and concentration, whereas you can think of NSDR and yoga nidra as modulating your brain and body state to allow you to focus and concentrate better. Now, another tool
Tool: Hypnosis & Focus/Deep Relaxation States
Andrew Huberman 1:12:13 that you can use to directly tap into the circuits for focus and concentration and to greatly accelerate neuroplasticity, the improvements, or I should say the changes in those circuits that will allow you to focus and concentrate better, is hypnosis. A lot of people hear hypnosis and they think stage hypnosis, you know, people squawking like chickens and doing things against their will. But actually hypnosis is a atypical but highly accessible brain state that's been studied with a lot of rigor.... at Stanford University School of Medicine by my colleague, Dr. David Spiegel. He's been a guest on this podcast previously. Hypnosis is a unique brain state because it's one in which you are deeply focused and yet deeply relaxed. So to just sort of set up the array of practices here so you can think about them logically, the focus refocus meditation is based on and focused on focus, no pun intended. NSDR and yoga nidra are aimed at deep relaxation. Hypnosis is this atypical, very powerful brain state in which you combine high levels of focus and deep relaxation. Now, it's a little bit of a tough one to just take oneself into, but fortunately, there's a tool based on a lot of quality peer-reviewed research from the Spiegel lab and other labs, and that is the Reveri app, R-E-V-E-R-I. The Reveri app is available for no cost, at least for a period of time, and then I think they place certain elements of it behind a pay wall. But you can try at zero cost. It's available for Apple soon, I think also to be available for Android, and they have specific hypnosis protocols that you listen to, and these are very brief protocols, follow the instructions. You're listening to a particular audio script of David Spiegel himself, and some progressive breathing and actually some eye movements that are directly linked to the neural circuits that allow for these highly focused, deeply relaxed states. And there are components within the Reveri app specifically geared towards improving focus and concentration. So again, there's meditation for focus, there's deliberate decompression, NSDR, yoga nidra, which take you into deep relaxation, and then hypnosis is this very special, very directed state of highly focused and highly relaxed, or I should say deeply relaxed, that allow access to the neural circuits for focus and c- concentration and allow you to tune those up and to improve those very significantly in a very brief amount of time. And again, some of those hypnosis scripts are as short as eight minutes, some are as long as 13 minutes. So what we're really talking about here are zero-cost tools that directly tap into the neural circuits, the components within your brain, that allow for deep relaxation, that allow for deep focus, and improve your ability to focus and concentrate over time simply by repeating these. How often do you need to repeat the Reveri hypnosis for focus and concentration before you see benefits? Well, that will vary from person to person. I tend to use it once every third or fourth day and have experienced tremendous benefits from it. I don't think I'm unique in that sense. They have a lot of data to support this, Reveri app and the protocols within it. How long do you have to do NSDR before you experience those benefits? There, I would say the first time and every time, because it's so deeply relaxing that you emerge from it feeling quite restored relative to how you went into it. And, as I mentioned earlier, in the study on meditation, it took about eight weeks to see the effects that they observed in tho- that study, but they didn't observe shorter time points. So I highly encourage people to explore meditation geared towards focus and refocus, also NSDR, non-sleep deep rest, AKA yoga nidra, and the Reveri app, specifically the hypnosis within the Reveri app that's geared towards improving focus and concentration. All of these have terrific science to support them. This is not woo science or hacks or just something that people came up with. This is all grounded in work from some of the best universities in the world, from excellent groups who've looked at underlying neural mechanisms and measured things with a lot of rigor, et cetera, et cetera. These tools are available to you. I highly recommend that you
Optimal Time of Day to Use Specific Tools
Andrew Huberman 1:16:07 use them. And if you're interested in the optimal time of day to do these, we already mentioned that the focus refocus meditation shouldn't be done too close to sleep. The Reveri hypnosis app can be done at any
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