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How to Improve & Protect Your Skin Health & Appearance | Dr. Teo Soleymani

In this episode, my guest is Dr. Teo Soleymani, M.D., a double-board-certified dermatologist and specialist in skin cancer and reconstructive surgery. We discuss science and clinically supported protocols to improve skin health and give your skin a more youthful appearance and structure, reducing premature aging and skin cancer risk.   We discuss the impact of sun exposure on skin appearance and aging and the surprising relationship between sun exposure and skin cancer. We explain how mineral-based (inorganic) sunscreens differ from chemical (organic) sunscreens, whether sunscreen can minimize premature skin aging, reduce cancer risk, and if there are any health risks associated with sunscreen use.   We discuss skincare routines to significantly improve skin appearance and how to select skincare products. We discuss how caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and stress impact the skin and describe how nutrition and anti-inflammatory diets can improve skin health. We also discuss the causes and treatments for common skin conditions, including dandruff, acne, rosacea, eczema, psoriasis, and vitiligo.   Our conversation also covers topics such as the use of retinoids, laser treatments, red-light phototherapy, supplements, and how to best monitor for skin cancer. This episode provides numerous actionable protocols, most of which are zero-to-low cost, for improving skin health and appearance, reducing cancer risk, and treating skin problems. Access the full show notes for this episode: https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-teo-soleymani-how-to-improve-protect-your-skin-health-appearance Pre-order Andrew's new book, Protocols: https://protocolsbook.com *Thank you to our sponsors* AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman ROKA: https://roka.com/huberman Joovv: https://joovv.com/huberman Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman *Huberman Lab Social & Website* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://www.hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter *Dr. Teo Soleymani* Clinical practice: https://www.californiadermatology.com/provider/teo-soleymani-md-faad- facms ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Teo-Soleymani Sol Sciences*: https://sunpowder.co/pages/about Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teosoleymanimd LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teo-soleymani-m-d-f-a-a-d-f-a-c-m-s-151a5941 *We have no financial relationship with Sol Sciences. *Timestamps* 00:00:00 Dr. Teo Soleymani 00:01:35 Sponsors: ROKA, Joovv & Helix Sleep 00:05:45 Skin Turnover; Skin Appearance & Stress 00:13:35 Caffeine, Vasoconstriction & Skin Redness 00:16:31 Nicotine, Vaping & Skin Appearance 00:18:37 Alcohol, Skin Health 00:24:33 Hydration, Fluid Intake & Genetics 00:26:19 Tool: Selecting a Moisturizer 00:29:28 Sponsor: AG1 00:30:40 Puffiness Under Eyes & Cause 00:32:14 Tool: Skin Cleansing; Frequency, Showers 00:41:57 Dry & Flaky Scalp, Dandruff 00:46:09 Cost & Skincare Products 00:50:20 Tool: Sun Exposure & Skin Health, Mood 00:56:24 Sponsor: LMNT 00:57:35 Sunscreens vs. Sunblocks; Mineral-Based (Inorganic) vs. Chemical (Organic) Sunscreen 01:02:45 Physical Barriers, Sunscreens, Oral Supplements & Skin Cancer 01:07:27 Skin Cancer, Genetics; Sunscreen, Premature Aging 01:12:11 Premature Aging & Skincare 00:15:56 Choose Mineral or Chemical Sunscreen? 01:20:24 Polypodium Supplement, Sun Exposure, Skin Redness 01:26:02 Tool: Selecting Mineral-Based Sunscreens 01:28:30 Chemical Sunscreens & Blood-Brain Barrier 01:30:13 Nutrition, Gut Microbiome & Skin Health 01:34:28 Tool: Nutrition for Skin Health, Protein, Anti-Inflammatory; Collagen; Omega-3 01:42:58 Retinoids vs. Retinol, Skin Appearance 01:49:45 Laser Resurfacing; Exfoliation, Microdermabrasion 01:56:52 Red Light Therapy & Phototherapy, Face Masks, Light Panels 02:04:10 Psoriasis, Phototherapy 02:10:03 Vitiligo, Immune System & Skin Cancer Risk 02:15:41 Acne, High Glycemic Index Foods, Dairy 02:19:38 Rosacea, Types & Treatments 02:23:00 Eczema, Immune System 02:25:37 Popping Pimples & Acne Scars; Corticosteroids 02:30:15 Tattoos; Tool: Monitoring for Skin Cancer, Moles, Annual Exams 02:36:28 HPV, Cancer & Warts; Vaccine & Cancer Risk 02:43:31 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter #HubermanLab #Science #SkinHealth Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

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Aug 19, 20242h 46mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 5:50 – 9:45

    Skin as a Dynamic, Regenerating Organ

    Soleymani lays out basic skin anatomy (epidermis, dermis, subcutaneous fat) and explains its 28-day turnover and regenerative capacity. He introduces the idea of skin as both barrier and biosensor, and sets up later discussions on disease modeling and repair.

    • Skin is the largest dynamic organ and regenerates fully at the surface about every 28 days.
    • Epidermal stem cells persist and continually generate new keratinocytes.
    • Skin’s regenerative ability makes it ideal for studying diseases and testing therapies.
    • Dermis houses vessels, nerves, hair follicles, oil and sweat glands—where most biologic activity resides.
  2. 9:45 – 22:45

    Stress, Hormones, and Their Visible Impact on Skin

    They explore acute versus chronic stress and how both rapidly and gradually change skin appearance and structure. Cortisol-driven collagen and elastin breakdown, hair loss, and changes in color and texture demonstrate how closely skin reflects internal state.

    • Acute stress alters blood flow, causing pallor or flushing via vasoconstriction/vasodilation.
    • Chronic cortisol breaks down collagen and elastin and thins vessel walls, accelerating aging.
    • Hair loss after finals, illness, or pregnancy illustrates stress effects on skin appendages.
    • Reducing stress reliably improves skin’s look and feel, even if hard to quantify in labs.
  3. 22:45 – 42:00

    Caffeine, Nicotine, Alcohol, and Hydration Myths

    Huberman asks how common substances affect skin health. Soleymani distinguishes caffeine’s mild, transient vascular effects from nicotine’s clearly harmful chronic vasoconstriction, and unpacks alcohol’s diuretic, inflammatory, and lifestyle-mediated damage to skin.

    • Normal caffeine intake causes minimal, transient vasoconstriction; effects on skin are largely neutral, though some may notice oiliness or rosacea sensitivity.
    • For rosacea, hot beverage temperature—not caffeine—more strongly drives flushing.
    • Nicotine via smoking or vaping meaningfully constricts skin vessels, hastens aging, and impairs wound healing; gums/patches are less harmful but not ideal.
    • Alcohol dehydrates, increases sebum, disrupts sleep and gut health, and correlates with worse skin; zero or minimal intake is best for skin and systemic health.
    • Drinking lots of water beyond normal hydration does not meaningfully increase skin moisture; transepidermal water loss is more genetics- and barrier-driven.
  4. 42:00 – 50:00

    Cleansing, Moisturizing, and Scalp Care Without Wrecking the Microbiome

    The conversation moves to everyday routines: face/body washing, moisturizer choice, and shampooing. Soleymani emphasizes minimal, fragrance-free products, warns against over-cleansing and preservatives, and clarifies dandruff and scalp treatments.

    • Unscented Dove bar, Cetaphil, and CeraVe are dermatologist favorites for sensitive skin, including children.
    • Fragrances and many preservatives commonly trigger or worsen eczema and “sensitive skin.”
    • Over-cleansing and antibacterial/harsh products disrupt the skin microbiome, promoting disease.
    • Showering frequency should match sweat/oiliness; many older or dry-skin individuals can wash less.
    • Scalp flaking usually reflects seborrheic dermatitis or psoriasis; medicated shampoos and anti-inflammatories target yeast and immune overactivity, not hair shafts.
    • Hair shafts are dead; topicals affect scalp skin, not hair growth directly.
  5. 50:00 – 1:04:50

    Simple, Cost-Effective Skincare and the Beauty Industry Problem

    Soleymani pushes back on the idea that expensive, multi-step routines are better. He explains why most over-the-counter actives are under-dosed versus prescription thresholds and stresses that dermatologists overwhelmingly use and recommend inexpensive basics.

    • Price and efficacy are poorly correlated; luxury products often have more irritants (fragrances, complex ingredient lists).
    • Most over-the-counter actives are below the concentration needed to be regulated as drugs—and often below therapeutic efficacy.
    • Dermatologists routinely recommend cheap, simple moisturizers and cleansers for their own families.
    • More steps mean more exposure to potential allergens and irritants; minimal routines are safer and usually sufficient.
  6. 1:04:50 – 1:16:20

    Sun Exposure: Benefits, Risks, and Why Total Avoidance Is Unwise

    They tackle the controversial topic of how much sun is healthy. Soleymani argues that moderate sun contributes to vitamin D, mood, and overall wellness, and that fear-based total avoidance is misguided, especially since many lethal skin cancers are not clearly UV-driven.

    • Roughly 15–20 minutes of sun on forearms can generate adequate vitamin D for many people.
    • Outdoor daylight improves mood, lowers stress markers, and visibly enhances skin ‘glow.’
    • Redness is a clear sign of overexposure; avoid burning but don’t avoid all sun.
    • Epidemiologically, many aggressive melanomas and squamous cell carcinomas arise on low-sun or non-sun-exposed sites.
    • UV clearly contributes mutations and photoaging, but it’s not the sole ‘trigger’; genetics and immune function are critical.
  7. 1:16:20 – 1:30:00

    Sunscreens: Mineral vs. Chemical and Internal Photoprotection

    They dissect how sunscreens work, regulatory changes, and concerning data on chemical filters. Soleymani explains why he and pediatric bodies prefer mineral sunscreens and introduces polypodium and nicotinamide as internal strategies to reduce burns and skin cancer risk.

    • Terminology is shifting: everything topical is now labeled ‘sunscreen’; old ‘sunblock’ vs. ‘sunscreen’ distinctions are being removed by the FDA.
    • Mineral (zinc, titanium) sunscreens act as physical shields, absorbing and scattering UV without undergoing chemical transformation.
    • Chemical filters (oxybenzone, octocrylene, octinoxate, etc.) are absorbed systemically, often at 100–500x the FDA’s testing threshold; they resemble bisphenol A and can show endocrine/neuroactivity in preclinical work.
    • FDA has moved many chemical filters from ‘GRASE’ to ‘not-GRASE’ pending more safety data; they’re found in blood, urine, breast milk, and amniotic fluid.
    • Mineral sunscreens and physical barriers (clothing, hats, shade) are preferred, especially for children and those concerned about systemic exposure.
    • Polypodium leucotomos (fern extract) increases minimal erythema dose and helps conditions like melasma, particularly in combination with topicals.
    • Nicotinamide (vitamin B3 amide) has randomized-trial evidence for ~30% reduction in non-melanoma skin cancers; Soleymani uses a combined nicotinamide+polypodium supplement (Sun Powder).
  8. 1:30:00 – 1:46:40

    Diet, Microbiome, Collagen, and Omega-3s in Skin Health

    They explore how the gut microbiome and diet shape inflammatory skin diseases and aging. Soleymani endorses a high-protein, anti-inflammatory diet, gives a nuanced view on collagen, and touches on omega-3 benefits and downsides.

    • Modulating the gut microbiome (diet, sometimes antibiotics) clearly improves psoriasis, eczema, and acne in controlled studies.
    • Some individuals’ microbiomes respond strongly to diet; others are relatively stable, complicating one-size-fits-all advice.
    • High-protein, low-sugar, anti-inflammatory nutrition (animal proteins plus fruits/vegetables) is the best general pattern for skin.
    • High-glycemic foods and emulsifiers in nonfat/skim dairy worsen acne via insulin and inflammatory mechanisms.
    • Collagen’s amino acids are non-essential; body can synthesize them. Benefits seen in studies may reflect correcting protein deficits and osmotic water shifts, not targeted trafficking to facial skin.
    • Excess powdered proteins and creatine can raise plasma osmolality, plumping tissues but sometimes raising blood pressure.
    • Omega-3s are mildly anti-inflammatory and may benefit skin but also thin blood; Soleymani stops them pre-surgery to reduce bleeding.
  9. 1:46:40 – 1:58:40

    Retinoids and Lasers: Proven Tools to Rebuild and Protect Skin

    This section covers prescription retinoids and laser resurfacing as the two highest-yield interventions for skin quality and cancer prevention. Soleymani details how they change gene expression, collagen, and mutation burden, and distinguishes them from weaker cosmetic products.

    • Prescription retinoids (tretinoin, adapalene, tazarotene) accelerate turnover and are histologically proven to increase dermal collagen and elastin.
    • They reduce actinic damage and non-melanoma skin cancer incidence; side effects are mainly early dryness/irritation.
    • OTC ‘retinol’ is a prodrug requiring conversion to retinoic acid, usually under-dosed and unstable; many products are essentially inactive within a year.
    • Everyone without contraindications could benefit from a prescription retinoid; see a dermatologist rather than relying on cosmetic retinol.
    • Laser resurfacing: ablative lasers vaporize epidermis/dermis with powerful rejuvenation but long downtime and risk; non-ablative fractional lasers (e.g., Fraxel) drill microscopic columns into dermis with lower downtime.
    • Non-ablative fractional lasers have been shown to reduce non-melanoma skin cancer by ~20% and reset gene-expression patterns toward youthful profiles.
  10. 1:58:40 – 2:08:40

    Red and Near-Infrared Light: Helpful, But Device Quality Matters

    They briefly examine red and near-infrared light for skin and hair. Soleymani is cautiously positive, noting improved blood flow and recovery, but emphasizes that most consumer masks are underpowered compared to wall panels used in studies.

    • Red and NIR light can improve vascular flow, support post-procedure healing, and may aid hair regrowth via enhanced blood supply to follicles.
    • Preclinical work shows pre-treating with red light can lessen UV-induced damage.
    • Evidence is strongest for high-energy, high-density panel devices; battery-powered face masks often lack sufficient power.
    • Blue + red combinations can help acne via antimicrobial effects and inflammation reduction.
  11. 2:08:40 – 2:28:40

    Major Inflammatory Skin Diseases: Psoriasis, Eczema, Rosacea, Vitiligo

    A substantial segment covers common immune-driven dermatoses, their mechanisms, and modern treatments. Soleymani explains why light, biologics, and JAK inhibitors are transforming care, and how diet and moisturization fit in.

    • Psoriasis: now understood as immune overactivity (interleukins) driving excessive skin turnover; biologics targeting specific cytokines can clear even severe cases with a few injections per year.
    • Mild psoriasis often improves with weight loss, anti-inflammatory diet, topical steroids/retinoids, and UV phototherapy; many patients clear in summer and flare in winter.
    • Eczema (atopic dermatitis): caused by a barrier defect (filaggrin), environmental allergens penetrating more easily, and an overzealous immune response.
    • Eczema management: heavy moisturization as ‘mortar’ between skin cells, fragrance/preservative avoidance, and topical steroids or new biologics/JAK inhibitors for severe cases.
    • Rosacea comes in redness/flushing, papulo-pustular (pimples), phymatous (bulbous nose), and ocular forms; triggers include heat, alcohol, spicy food, stress and UV.
    • Redness is best treated with vascular lasers (e.g., Vbeam); pimples with topical and oral anti-inflammatory/antimicrobial agents.
    • Vitiligo: autoimmune destruction of melanocytes, associated with other autoimmune diseases. Treated with topical immunomodulators, UVB/excimer laser, and now JAK inhibitors. Despite lack of pigment, patients have lower skin cancer rates due to heightened immune surveillance.
  12. 2:28:40 – 2:41:30

    Acne Management and Why You Shouldn’t Pop Pimples

    They break down acne’s pathophysiology (sebum, bacteria, immune response) and practical treatment levers. Soleymani explains dietary triggers, topical/oral therapies, and why mechanical pimple-popping causes scarring via matrix metalloproteinases.

    • Acne is driven by excess sebum (hormone-related), Cutibacterium acnes overgrowth, and immune-mediated inflammation.
    • High-glycemic diets and skim/nonfat dairy with emulsifiers clearly worsen acne; high-protein, low-sugar diets improve it.
    • Treatments must address all three factors: reduce sebum (retinoids, isotretinoin), reduce bacteria (benzoyl peroxide, antibiotics), and modulate inflammation (topicals, systemic meds).
    • Pimple popping recruits extra immune cells and matrix metalloproteinases that eat collagen and elastin, leading to permanent scars.
    • If a pimple must be addressed, gentle warm compresses and minimal manipulation are safest; avoid hydrogen peroxide and OTC topical antibiotics which are often ineffective and allergenic.
    • Intralesional steroid injections can rapidly flatten lesions before big events but risk atrophic dents if overdone; should be done sparingly by experienced dermatologists.
  13. 2:41:30 – 2:59:40

    Tattoos, HPV, and Comprehensive Skin Cancer Screening

    In the final third, they discuss tattoos, HPV-related cancers, and the sobering burden of non-melanoma skin cancers. Soleymani outlines what proper annual skin checks entail and strongly endorses broad HPV vaccination.

    • Tattoos are not inherently harmful if sterile and using non-allergenic pigments, but make skin cancer surveillance harder, especially with heavy dark ink.
    • Red ink with cinnamates often provokes foreign-body or granulomatous reactions.
    • At least one in four Americans will develop a skin cancer (mostly non-melanoma); currently ~5 million cases/year in the U.S.
    • Squamous cell carcinoma now causes ~3x as many deaths as melanoma in the U.S., yet receives less attention.
    • Full-body annual exams by a board-certified dermatologist, including scalp, nails, and genital/oral areas, are critical; high-risk patients may need more frequent visits and mole-mapping/AI-assisted monitoring.
    • Many aggressive squamous cell carcinomas in younger adults are HPV-driven in genital/oral regions—not preventable with sunscreen.
    • HPV has dozens of strains: some cause benign warts, others cause cancers. Gardasil vaccination up through the late 40s (on-label) substantially reduces cervical, throat, and HPV-related skin cancers; it has also helped clear recalcitrant warts in immunosuppressed patients.
  14. 2:59:40

    Closing Reflections: Skin as a Biosensor and Future Therapies

    They end by reframing skin as a real-time indicator of internal health and stress, and preview future directions like cancer vaccines. Soleymani emphasizes evidence-based care, challenging dogma, and the importance of destigmatizing skin disease.

    • Skin, hair, and nails are early-warning biosensors for stress, nutrient status, systemic illness, and immune dysfunction.
    • Common examples: hair shedding after stress/illness, pallor with anemia, nail changes with systemic disease, and seasonal changes in rashes.
    • Emerging cancer immunotherapies and mRNA or dendritic-cell vaccines may soon target skin cancers after surgery/chemo to train immune surveillance.
    • Patients should not be shamed or guilted for skin cancers; genetics and immune factors play a major role beyond single sunburns decades earlier.
    • Soleymani advocates for rigorous, evidence-based practice while being open to revising long-held beliefs as new data emerge.

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