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How to Optimize Your Hormones for Health & Vitality | Dr. Kyle Gillett

My guest is Dr. Kyle Gillett, MD, a dual board-certified physician in family medicine and obesity medicine and an expert in optimizing hormone levels to improve overall health and well-being in both men and women. We discuss how to improve hormones using behavioral, nutritional and exercise-based tools and how to safely and rationally approach supplementation and hormone therapies. We also explore testosterone and estrogen and how those hormones relate to fertility, mood, aging, relationships, disease pathologies, thyroid hormone, growth hormone, prolactin, dopamine and peptides that impact physical and mental health and vitality across the lifespan. The episode is rich with scientific mechanisms and practical tools for people to consider. For an up-to-date list of our current sponsors, please visit our website: https://www.hubermanlab.com/sponsors. Previous sponsors mentioned in this podcast episode may no longer be affiliated with us. Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab Website: https://www.hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3thCToZ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3PYzuFs Dr. Kyle Gillett Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylegillettmd YouTube: https://bit.ly/3v65nSQ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gilletthealth LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylegillettmd Clinic: https://gilletthealth.com Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Kyle Gillett, MD, Hormone Optimization 00:03:10 The Brain-Body Contract 00:04:10 Thesis, InsideTracker, ROKA 00:08:24 Preventative Medicine & Hormone Health 00:14:17 The Six Pillars of Hormone Health Optimization 00:17:14 Diet for Hormone Health, Blood Testing 00:20:21 Exercise for Hormone Health 00:21:06 Caloric Restriction, Obesity & Testosterone 00:23:55 Intermittent Fasting, Growth Hormone (GH), IGF-1 00:29:08 Sleep Quality & Hormones 00:35:03 Testosterone in Women 00:38:55 Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), Hair Loss 00:43:46 DHT in Men and Women, Turmeric/Curcumin, Creatine 00:50:10 5-Alpha Reductase, Finasteride, Saw Palmetto 00:52:30 Hair loss, DHT, Creatine Monohydrate 00:55:07 Hair Regrowth, Male Pattern Baldness 00:58:12 Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS), Inositol, DIM 01:04:00 Oral Contraception, Perceived Attractiveness, Fertility 01:10:31 Testosterone & Marijuana or Alcohol 01:14:27 Sleep Supplement Frequency 01:15:34 Testosterone Supplementation & Prostate Cancer 01:20:24 Prostate Health, Dietary Fiber, Saw Palmetto, C-Reactive Protein 01:24:05 Prostate Health & Pelvic Floor, Viagra, Tadalafil 01:30:54 Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) 01:35:17 Estrogen & Aromatase Inhibitors, Calcium D-Glucarate, DIM 01:39:28 Lifestyle Factors to Increase Testosterone/Estrogen Levels, Dietary Fats 01:45:34 Aromatase Supplements: Ecdysterone, Turkesterone 01:47:04 Tongkat Ali (Long Jack), Estrogen/Testosterone levels 01:52:25 Fadogia Agrestis, Luteinizing Hormone (LH), Frequency 01:56:44 Boron, Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) 01:58:13 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG), Fertility 02:04:18 Prolactin & Dopamine, Pituitary Damage 02:08:34 Augmenting Dopamine Levels: Casein, Gluten, Vitamin E, Vitamin B6 (P5P) 02:12:30 L-Carnitine & Fertility, TMAO & Allicin (Garlic) 02:18:19 Blood Test Frequency 02:19:41 Long-Term Relationships & Effects on Hormones 02:25:33 Nesting Instincts: Prolactin, Childbirth & Relationships 02:29:05 Cold & Hot Exposure, Hormones & Fertility 02:32:34 Peptide Hormones: Insulin, Tesamorelin, Ghrelin 02:37:24 Growth Hormone-Releasing Peptides (GHRPs) 02:39:38 BPC-157 & Injury, Dosing Frequency 02:45:23 Uses for Melanotan 02:48:21 Spiritual Health Impact on Mental & Physical Health 02:54:18 Caffeine & Hormones 02:56:19 Neural Network Newsletter, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify Review, Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Patreon, Thorne, Instagram, Twitter, Brain-Body Contract #HubermanLab #Health #Hormones Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com Audio Engineering: Joel Hatstat at High Jump Media

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Apr 10, 20222h 59mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Six Pillars To Optimize Hormones For Lifelong Health And Vitality

  1. Andrew Huberman interviews Dr. Kyle Gillett, a dual board‑certified physician in family and obesity medicine, about how to optimize hormones across the lifespan using lifestyle, nutrition, supplements, and, where appropriate, hormone therapies.
  2. Gillett outlines six major lifestyle pillars—diet, exercise, stress, sleep, sunlight, and spirit—that form the foundation for healthy levels of testosterone, estrogen, DHT, prolactin, and growth hormone in both men and women.
  3. They unpack nuanced topics including caloric restriction vs. testosterone, intermittent fasting, DHT and hair loss, PCOS, oral contraceptives, prolactin and relationships, prostate health, peptides, and targeted supplements like tongkat ali, Fadogia, L‑carnitine, and creatine.
  4. Throughout, they stress individualized approaches, lab testing, physician oversight, and the dangers of simplistic “boost testosterone” or “block estrogen” thinking, emphasizing ratios, receptor sensitivity, and long‑term health risks.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Anchor Hormone Health In Six Lifestyle Pillars Before Considering Hormone Therapy

Gillett emphasizes that long‑term hormone optimization depends far more on consistent lifestyle than on drugs or supplements. His “big six” are: (1) diet, with minimal ultra‑processed foods and appropriate caloric intake; (2) exercise, especially resistance training plus zone‑2 cardio; (3) stress optimization to keep cortisol in check, ideally as a household or family unit; (4) sleep optimization for mitochondrial and hormone health; (5) sunlight and outdoor exposure, including natural heat/cold; and (6) spirit, meaning some form of spiritual or existential grounding, which measurably affects mental and physical health.

Caloric Restriction Helps Testosterone Only In People With Obesity Or Metabolic Syndrome

Evidence from human and animal studies shows that caloric restriction improves testosterone primarily in obese or metabolically unhealthy individuals. In lean, young, healthy men, sustained caloric restriction generally lowers testosterone. Intermittent fasting is not inherently magical for fat loss—calories in vs. calories out still governs weight—but fasting can improve growth hormone output and metabolic markers when properly applied. Choice of approach should depend on body composition and metabolic status, not trends.

DHT Is Not Just A Villain: It’s Essential But Must Be Managed Thoughtfully

DHT is a potent androgen critical for motivation, effort feeling good, and cardiovascular and sexual function, but excess DHT activity in scalp follicles drives male‑pattern baldness. 5‑alpha‑reductase inhibitors (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, high‑dose curcumin/bioperine) can protect hair and prostate but may lower mood, libido, and neurosteroid‑driven calmness and sleep. Effects are usually reversible if stopped in time. Gillett prefers local approaches (e.g., topical or mesotherapy dutasteride to the scalp) when possible, and warns that widespread use of systemic 5‑AR inhibitors is often unnecessary and can create “post‑finasteride”–like syndromes.

Women’s Androgens Are Undervalued: Testosterone And DHEA Matter As Much As Estrogen

Women typically have more total testosterone than estradiol (in different units) and far more DHEA, and these androgens are crucial for libido, motivation, body composition, and wellbeing. PCOS is common (10–20% prevalence) yet underdiagnosed; it presents with androgen excess (acne, hirsutism, hair thinning), insulin resistance (high fasting insulin, HOMA‑IR >2), and/or menstrual irregularities. Tools like metformin, myo‑/D‑chiro‑inositol, DIM, body‑fat reduction, and carefully chosen contraceptives can improve PCOS, but oral contraceptives also raise SHBG and lower free androgens, blunting libido and cyclical attraction effects.

TRT Requires Precision: Dose, Frequency, Estrogen Management, And Sleep Apnea Risk

For clinically hypogonadal men, Gillett favors low, steady doses of injectable testosterone (often ~100–120 mg/week split 2–3 times) rather than large, infrequent injections that cause peaks, side effects (thick blood, anxiety), and crashes. Topical or oral undecanoate can work for some but have practical limits. He generally avoids routine aromatase inhibitors because low estrogen harms mood, connective tissue, and libido; he prefers lifestyle and mild supplements (e.g., calcium D‑glucarate, DIM in select cases). TRT increases sleep apnea risk in a dose‑dependent manner, for both low‑T and normal‑T users, so screening and sleep monitoring are critical.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Doing a little amount of lifestyle interventions over a long period of time is going to be far more helpful than doing a lot and then doing nothing.

Dr. Kyle Gillett

Women actually have significantly more testosterone than estradiol; we just measure them in different units.

Dr. Kyle Gillett

Testosterone is not going to cause a prostate cancer. However, normal aging causes prostate cancer, and testosterone will grow your prostate cancer.

Dr. Kyle Gillett

The best dose of something is often zero.

Dr. Kyle Gillett

You can’t have one healthy without the other healthy. Your body, your mind, and your soul form a Venn diagram; if one is off, the others suffer.

Dr. Kyle Gillett

The six lifestyle pillars for hormone optimization (diet, exercise, stress, sleep, sunlight, spirit)Testosterone, estrogen, DHT, and SHBG in men and womenCaloric restriction, intermittent fasting, metabolic health, and their impact on hormonesPCOS, oral contraceptives, female hormone balance, and fertilityProstate health, DHT, and medications/supplements affecting hair and libidoSupplements and peptides for hormone support (tongkat ali, Fadogia, creatine, L‑carnitine, BPC‑157, melanotan, etc.)Prolactin, dopamine, relationships, parenting, and sexual function

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