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How to Understand Emotions | Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett

In this episode, my guest is Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett, Ph.D., a distinguished professor of psychology at Northeastern University and a world expert in the science of emotions. She explains what emotions are and how the brain represents and integrates signals from our body and the environment to create our unique emotional states. We discuss the relationship between emotions and language, how the specificity of language impacts emotional processing, the role of facial expressions in emotions and how emotions relate to sleep, movement, nutrition and the building and reinforcement of social bonds. We also share actionable tools to regulate feelings of uncertainty and to better understand the emotional states of others. This episode will interest anyone curious about the neuroscience and psychology underlying emotions and those who seek to better understand themselves and relate to others and the world in richer, more adaptive ways. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Levels: https://levels.link/huberman InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman Huberman Lab Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett Website: https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com Academic Profile: https://cos.northeastern.edu/people/lisa-barrett "How Emotions are Made: The Secret Life of the Brain": https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made "Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain": https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/seven-and-a-half-lessons-about-the-brain TED Talk: https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/2018/01/13/ted-talk-you-arent-at-the-mercy-of-your-emotions-your-brain-creates-them X: https://twitter.com/lfeldmanbarrett TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@professor.lisa LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-feldman-barrett Articles Emotional Expressions Reconsidered: Challenges to Inferring Emotion From Human Facial Movements: https://bit.ly/46R3XNq Books "Not by Genes Alone: How Culture Transformed Human Evolution": https://amzn.to/3QirDEZ "The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma": https://amzn.to/3rUQyVO "An Immense World: How Animal Senses Reveal the Hidden Realms Around Us": https://bit.ly/3QhMFU9 "I Contain Multitudes: The Microbes Within Us and a Grander View of Life": https://amzn.to/3M2CY9B Other Resources Dr. Karl Deisseroth: Understanding & Healing the Mind: https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/karl-deisseroth-understanding-and-healing-the-mind Counterintuitive Ideas About How the Brain Work (Lex Fridman Podcast): https://lexfridman.com/lisa-feldman-barrett Love, Evolution, and the Human Brain (Lex Fridman Podcast):: https://lexfridman.com/lisa-feldman-barrett-2 Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett 00:03:01 Sponsors: Eight Sleep & Levels 00:05:46 Core Components of Emotions 00:10:42 Facial Movement & Interpretation, Emotion 00:19:33 Facial Expressions & Emotion, Individualization 00:31:03 Emotion Categories, Culture & Child Development 00:36:53 Sponsor: AG1 00:37:50 Legal System, ‘Universal’ Emotions & Caution 00:41:07 Language Descriptions, Differences & Emotion 00:48:18 Questions & Assumptions; Language, Emotions & Nervous System 00:53:40 Brain, Uncertainty & Categories 01:02:51 Sponsor: InsideTracker 01:03:57 Brain & Summaries; Emotions as “Multimodal Summaries” 01:14:45 Emotional Granularity, Library Analogy 01:19:40 Brain & Compression, Planning 01:29:04 Labels & Generalization 01:34:29 Movement, Sensation, Prediction & Learning 01:42:44 Feelings of Discomfort & Action 01:50:32 Tool: Feelings of Uncertainty, Emotion, “Affect” 02:01:18 Tool: Experience Dimensions & Attention; Individualization 02:08:36 Affect, Allostasis & Body Budget Analogy 02:15:41 Depression, “Emotional Flu” 02:20:20 Tool: Positively Shift Affect; Alcohol & Drugs; SSRIs 02:27:40 Relationships: Savings or Taxes, Kindness 02:36:50 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

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Oct 15, 20232h 39mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rethinking Emotions: How Your Brain Actively Constructs Every Feeling

  1. Andrew Huberman and psychologist-neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett dismantle the classic idea that emotions are hardwired, universal states with fixed facial expressions and bodily signatures. Instead, Barrett explains that the brain is a prediction and budgeting machine that constantly constructs emotions from past experience, bodily state (affect), and context.
  2. They show that there is no dedicated “emotion system” in the brain, no universal facial expressions of emotion, and that language and culture profoundly shape how we experience and categorize feelings. Emotions are not things we have, but categories of instances the brain builds as plans for action.
  3. Affect—simple feelings of pleasant/unpleasant and worked up/calm—reflects the brain’s ongoing regulation of the body’s energy budget, and can be turned into very different emotions depending on how it is interpreted. By increasing emotional granularity, caring for sleep, nutrition, movement, and relationships, and by flexibly re-labeling bodily sensations, people can change their emotional lives in practical and powerful ways.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

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Emotions Are Constructed, Not Hardwired Reflexes

Barrett argues that emotions like anger, fear, and sadness are not fixed circuits or “things” in the brain, but categories the brain constructs on the fly. The brain is constantly solving an inverse problem: given noisy sensory signals from the body and world, it guesses what’s happening and what to do next by reassembling bits of past experience. “Anger” is not a single state but a highly variable category of instances—sometimes you scowl, sometimes you cry, sometimes you sit quietly and plan.

There Is No Universal Emotion-Face Map

The popular idea that each basic emotion has a universal facial expression (e.g., fear = widened eyes, anger = scowl) is not supported by data. Large meta-analyses and a consensus paper Barrett co-authored show that people scowl in anger only about 35% of the time and scowl frequently when not angry; specificity and reliability are both low. Across cultures, including more isolated groups, many facial movements are not even interpreted as emotional. Treating faces as direct readouts of emotion is scientifically wrong and socially dangerous, especially in legal contexts.

Affect Is the Brain’s Barometer of the Body-Budget

Affect (feeling pleasant/unpleasant and worked up/calm) is a low-dimensional summary of the brain’s regulation of the body’s metabolic resources (the “body-budget”: glucose, oxygen, salt, etc.). When the budget is in good shape, you tend to feel okay or good; when you’re running a deficit (poor sleep, illness, chronic stress), you feel fatigued, distressed, or off. Crucially, affect is always present—foreground or background—and not specific to emotion; it underlies all conscious experience.

Language and Emotional Granularity Change What You Feel and Do

Words are compressed, multimodal summaries of many past instances (like “pizza” standing in for dozens of sensory details). Emotion words work the same way: saying “bad” bins many different states into one huge, unhelpful category; labeling the same feeling as “frustrated,” “lonely,” or a culturally specific term (e.g., German word for ‘a face that begs to be punched,’ Polynesian ‘ligut’ for exuberant group aggression) narrows down possible actions. Building a richer emotional vocabulary—even borrowing from other languages—increases emotional granularity and gives your brain more precise “recipes” for what to do next.

The Brain Predicts First, Then You Experience

The brain is not primarily stimulus-driven; it is predictive. Based on past experience and current context, it issues motor plans (visceral and skeletal) and sends efference copies of those commands to sensory areas as predictions of what you’re about to see, feel, or hear. Incoming sensory signals mainly confirm or adjust those predictions (prediction error = learning). Your conscious experience is largely a “controlled hallucination” constructed from these predictions, not a direct readout of the world.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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There is no emotion system in your brain, and a movement is not the same as an expression.

Lisa Feldman Barrett

Facial movements are facial movements. People move their faces, and those movements have meaning, but they're not always to express an internal state.

Lisa Feldman Barrett

Anger isn't one thing. It's a category of things, a grouping of things. It's not a noun, it's a verb and it's a process.

Lisa Feldman Barrett

Your body doesn’t keep the score. Your brain keeps the score. Your body is the scorecard.

Lisa Feldman Barrett

Sometimes when something feels bad, it doesn’t mean something is wrong. It might just mean you’re doing something hard.

Lisa Feldman Barrett

Constructed theory of emotion vs. classical basic emotion theoryAffect, interoception, and the brain’s body-budget (allostasis)Debunking universal facial expressions and emotion-reading mythsPrediction, categorization, and the brain as a guessing machineRole of language, culture, and emotional granularityMovement, bodily state, and their bidirectional link with emotionPractical emotion regulation: sleep, exercise, nutrition, relationships and meaning-making

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