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#1 CONFIDENCE Coach: The hidden secret that has been holding you back from being CONFIDENT...

What’s been making you doubt yourself lately? What do you think triggered that feeling? Today, Jay welcomes back his friend Roxie Nafousi to unpack what confidence actually looks and feels like, not the glossy, loud, performative version, but the quiet inner knowing that you are enough as you are. They start by breaking down how much of our insecurity comes from the stories we tell ourselves: the overthinking before we walk into a room, the mental replay after we walk out, and the way we let validation, or the lack of it, shape our worth. Roxie then opens up about something she’s never shared publicly: her long struggle with body dysmorphic disorder. She talks honestly about the thoughts that dominated her life, the fear of being seen, and the belief that changing her appearance would quiet the constant self-criticism. Jay meets her with compassion as they unpack how these patterns form, how they shape the way you move through the world, and how healing begins with learning to speak to yourself with empathy instead of judgment. Jay and Roxie offer a roadmap that anyone can follow: mastering your inner voice, letting go of the pressure to be liked by everyone, celebrating the small wins, and choosing to show up as the version of yourself your higher self would be proud of. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Redefine Confidence From the Inside Out How to Stop Seeking External Validation How to Manage Comparison Before It Controls You How to Think Like Your Higher Self How to Break Free From People-Pleasing How to Handle Rejection Without Blaming Yourself How to Replace Self-Criticism With Self-Awareness When you start choosing compassion over judgment, intention over fear, and growth over perfection, you slowly reconnect with the part of yourself that’s always been there. The journey isn’t about becoming someone new, it’s about finally seeing who you’ve been all along. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 04:21 Is External Validation Ever Healthy? 08:25 A 7-Step Path to Rebuilding Confidence 10:57 How Men and Women Show Confidence Differently 12:29 Mastering the Thoughts That Shape Your Reality 17:19 Self-Awareness vs. Self-Criticism 22:28 Meet the Best Version of You 26:26 Stop Trying to Be Liked by Everyone! 31:49 How Encouragement Boosts Performance 34:07 You Can’t Be Everyone’s Favorite and That’s Okay 38:42 People-Pleasing vs. Making People Happy 42:57 Practicing Radical Acceptance After Rejection 44:54 Your Mind Creates Stories That Aren’t True 47:16 Taking Responsibility Without Blaming Yourself 50:44 Why Feeling Worthy Now Matters Most 53:18 Healing the Roots of Deep Self-Loathing 01:06:27 Why Vulnerability Is a Form of Confidence 01:10:25 Your Mind Is More Powerful Than You Think 01:13:10 Are We Too Exposed to Our Own Reflection? 01:17:18 Managing BDD With Compassion and Awareness 01:22:04 The Importance of Celebrating Ourselves 01:24:09 What’s the Difference Between Confidence and Arrogance 01:27:45 How to Make Self-Celebration a Daily Habit 01:29:51 Catch People Doing Things Right Episode Resources: https://www.roxienafousi.com/ https://www.instagram.com/roxienafousi/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057924825815 https://twitter.com/roxie_n https://www.linkedin.com/in/roxienafousi7/ https://www.tiktok.com/@officialroxienafousi https://www.instagram.com/jayshetty https://www.facebook.com/jayshetty/ https://x.com/jayshetty https://www.linkedin.com/in/shettyjay/ https://www.youtube.com/@JayShettyPodcast http://jayshetty.me

Jay ShettyhostRoxie Nafousiguest
Dec 1, 20251h 35mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 4:21 – 10:57

    External validation: when motivation turns into a measure of worth

    They explore whether external validation can ever be healthy, recognizing that some validation can encourage growth and social harmony. The problem arises when others’ opinions become the primary “measuring stick” for self-worth—intensified by social media’s quantified feedback loops.

    • Some validation supports growth and social belonging
    • Evolutionary need to belong gets distorted into self-worth scoring
    • Social media turns validation into public, numeric comparison
    • Others’ opinions can start to matter more than your own
  2. 10:57 – 12:29

    Why confidence issues are universal—and why men and women express them differently

    Roxie shares that lack of confidence shows up across love, career, and personal goals, often as fear and doubt that blocks potential. She notes women may face more pressures while men may struggle more to express insecurities openly, making confidence challenges feel heavier and more hidden.

    • Low confidence appears in every life domain (love, work, goals)
    • Fear and doubt are deeply embedded belief patterns
    • Most people assume others are more confident than they are
    • Women may share insecurity more easily; men may conceal it more
  3. 12:29 – 17:19

    Master your thoughts: your mind as home or prison

    Roxie describes the inner critic as a major barrier and explains how repeated thoughts become beliefs that filter reality. Using examples (social cues at a dinner party) and a “comedian being heckled” metaphor, she shows how self-talk shapes behavior and becomes self-fulfilling prophecy.

    • Thoughts repeated become beliefs; beliefs shape perception
    • Negative beliefs distort interpretation of social cues
    • Brains seek evidence that confirms existing beliefs
    • The ‘heckling yourself’ metaphor explains performance collapse
  4. 17:19 – 26:26

    Self-awareness vs. self-criticism: compassionate improvement (and the higher-self journal prompt)

    They distinguish self-awareness (learning and improving with compassion) from self-criticism (shaming and attacking). Roxie offers a practical tool: writing a daily motivational message from your higher self to strengthen a supportive internal voice and guide decisions.

    • Difference is intention: growth vs. shame
    • Confidence is being a “masterpiece and work-in-progress”
    • Talk to yourself like you’d teach a child—gentle and effective
    • Daily prompt: a motivational message from your higher self
  5. 26:26 – 31:49

    Stop trying to be liked by everyone: four truths that break people-pleasing

    They dive into the addiction to being liked and how it creates masks, weak boundaries, and inauthenticity. Roxie shares four truths: people aren’t thinking about you much, you don’t know what they think, you can’t please everyone, and it’s often just an energetic mismatch—not personal.

    • Being liked by everyone often means wearing a mask
    • Truth 1: spotlight effect—others notice less than you think
    • Truth 2: you can’t accurately read others’ thoughts (pink tracksuit story)
    • Truth 3–4: nobody is universally liked; mismatch isn’t personal/it’s energy
  6. 31:49 – 38:42

    Encouragement, praise, and performance: from Cirque du Soleil to self-validation

    Jay shares how performers misread muted applause across cultures, illustrating how praise looks different and why misinterpretation can damage confidence. Together they emphasize that encouragement boosts performance—and that self-encouragement matters most when external validation doesn’t land.

    • Praise is culturally expressed in different ways (Cirque example)
    • Muted feedback doesn’t equal dislike or failure
    • External praise can’t override inner doubt when self-worth is low
    • Building self-encouragement creates stable confidence
  7. 38:42 – 42:57

    People-pleasing vs making people happy: intention, boundaries, and conflict avoidance

    Roxie distinguishes making people happy (coming from abundance and love) from people-pleasing (coming from low self-worth and needing approval). They discuss the false extremes—wanting everyone to like you vs not caring at all—and how conflict avoidance drives inauthenticity.

    • Making people happy can come from worth; people-pleasing from lack
    • People-pleasing is about managing how others see you
    • Caring what people think isn’t bad—connection depends on it
    • Avoiding friction can prevent deep, authentic relationships
  8. 42:57 – 47:16

    Rejection and radical acceptance: stop firing the “second arrow”

    They discuss handling rejection and disapproval without spiraling into rumination. Roxie advocates radical acceptance and not attaching meaning, while Jay adds the Buddhist concept of the second arrow—self-inflicted suffering from the story you add to painful events.

    • Rejection hurts, but rumination adds unnecessary suffering
    • Radical acceptance reduces overthinking and narrative-building
    • The “second arrow” = blaming yourself and creating meaning
    • Your mind fills blanks with worst-case fiction
  9. 47:16 – 50:44

    Responsibility without self-blame: divine timing, surrender, and compassionate growth

    Jay asks how to avoid making everything your fault while still taking responsibility for change. Roxie emphasizes trusting life’s unfolding (divine timing/universe) to loosen self-blame, alongside self-awareness and compassionate reflection to identify what you can improve and release what you can’t control.

    • Surrender to what you can’t control; reflect on what you can
    • Spiritual trust can reduce shame and obsessive meaning-making
    • Self-awareness enables responsibility without self-attack
    • Confidence supports resilience after breakups, losses, and setbacks
  10. 50:44 – 53:18

    Why feeling worthy now matters: goals don’t create confidence

    They challenge the belief that riches, fame, marriage, or promotions automatically create confidence. Roxie explains that people attach ‘enoughness’ to outcomes, but lasting confidence requires feeling loved, valued, and worthy now—so achievements can be enjoyed rather than used to fill a void.

    • You can be successful and still insecure
    • Goals are helpful, but not a substitute for self-worth
    • Emotional attachment: “I’ll be enough when…” drives suffering
    • Worthiness now enables joy when outcomes arrive
  11. 53:18 – 1:13:10

    Healing deep self-loathing and body dysmorphia (BDD): a vulnerable personal journey

    Roxie shares her history of severe self-hate from childhood, addiction as a coping mechanism, and later a debilitating experience of BDD intensified by pregnancy and camera exposure. She describes BDD as an anxiety/OCD-related disorder, discusses therapy and medication as tools, and underscores that changing the outside won’t heal inner patterns without internal work.

    • Early self-loathing shaped beliefs; addiction used to numb inner pain
    • BDD described as obsessive fixation on perceived flaws (often face/body)
    • Surgery/filters didn’t resolve the underlying thought patterns
    • CBT/medication + inner work helped; flare-ups still managed with awareness
  12. 1:13:10 – 1:24:09

    Overexposed to our reflection: reclaiming identity beyond the body

    Jay and Roxie reflect on how modern life forces constant self-viewing (Zoom, FaceTime, phones), amplifying appearance-based anxiety. They argue confidence deepens when identity shifts from body to soul/values—remembering people care more about how you make them feel than how you look.

    • Modern tech increases mirror exposure and self-scrutiny
    • Less reflection can support inward focus (monastery/no mirrors)
    • Reframe: people remember how you made them feel
    • Soul-first identity reduces body-based inadequacy
  13. 1:24:09

    Celebrate yourself daily: humility vs self-deprecation, and confidence vs arrogance

    They explain why many struggle to accept compliments and celebrate wins—often due to cultural conditioning around humility, fear of envy (evil eye), and confusing confidence with arrogance. Roxie defines arrogance as ‘I am the best’ versus confidence as ‘I’m working to be my best,’ and offers daily practices to recognize small wins and everyday qualities.

    • Humility can turn into self-deprecation and compliment rejection
    • Cultural fears (envy/evil eye) can discourage celebration
    • Arrogance vs confidence: superiority vs self-mastery and growth
    • Practical habit: track small wins + list everyday strengths and quirks
  14. Confidence as self-worth (not loudness): walking in unapologetically you

    Roxie Nafousi defines confidence as self-worth—knowing you are enough exactly as you are—rather than being extroverted, charismatic, or the loudest in the room. Real confidence is quiet, grounded, and stable, and it shows up as not obsessing over others’ opinions before and after social situations.

    • Confidence = self-worth and feeling “enough” as you are
    • Confidence isn’t the same as extroversion or being loud
    • A confident person can enter/leave a room without rumination
    • Social overthinking is a common confidence drain
  15. How validation rewires self-perception (likes, algorithms, and identity)

    Roxie explains how external metrics can change what we think about ourselves—like doubting a photo you loved once it gets fewer likes. They unpack the idea that we often become “who we think others think we are,” outsourcing self-judgment to reactions and engagement.

    • External feedback can override your internal opinion
    • Low engagement can trigger self-doubt and self-editing
    • “I am who I think you think I am” dynamic
    • ‘Felt cute, might delete later’ reflects insecurity conditioning
  16. Meet your higher self: a one-year vision and the question that guides every decision

    Roxie frames the higher self as your most empowered version and suggests visualizing yourself one year ahead without fear and doubt. She recommends using one question—“What would my higher self do?”—to transform daily choices, habits, boundaries, and body language.

    • Higher self = most empowered, best-you version
    • Visualization: one year ahead with fears set aside
    • Use the guiding question before decisions: “What would my higher self do?”
    • Identity shifts through repeated choices and rehearsal

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