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#1 CONFIDENCE Coach: The hidden secret that has been holding you back from being CONFIDENT...

What’s been making you doubt yourself lately? What do you think triggered that feeling? Today, Jay welcomes back his friend Roxie Nafousi to unpack what confidence actually looks and feels like, not the glossy, loud, performative version, but the quiet inner knowing that you are enough as you are. They start by breaking down how much of our insecurity comes from the stories we tell ourselves: the overthinking before we walk into a room, the mental replay after we walk out, and the way we let validation, or the lack of it, shape our worth. Roxie then opens up about something she’s never shared publicly: her long struggle with body dysmorphic disorder. She talks honestly about the thoughts that dominated her life, the fear of being seen, and the belief that changing her appearance would quiet the constant self-criticism. Jay meets her with compassion as they unpack how these patterns form, how they shape the way you move through the world, and how healing begins with learning to speak to yourself with empathy instead of judgment. Jay and Roxie offer a roadmap that anyone can follow: mastering your inner voice, letting go of the pressure to be liked by everyone, celebrating the small wins, and choosing to show up as the version of yourself your higher self would be proud of. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Redefine Confidence From the Inside Out How to Stop Seeking External Validation How to Manage Comparison Before It Controls You How to Think Like Your Higher Self How to Break Free From People-Pleasing How to Handle Rejection Without Blaming Yourself How to Replace Self-Criticism With Self-Awareness When you start choosing compassion over judgment, intention over fear, and growth over perfection, you slowly reconnect with the part of yourself that’s always been there. The journey isn’t about becoming someone new, it’s about finally seeing who you’ve been all along. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 04:21 Is External Validation Ever Healthy? 08:25 A 7-Step Path to Rebuilding Confidence 10:57 How Men and Women Show Confidence Differently 12:29 Mastering the Thoughts That Shape Your Reality 17:19 Self-Awareness vs. Self-Criticism 22:28 Meet the Best Version of You 26:26 Stop Trying to Be Liked by Everyone! 31:49 How Encouragement Boosts Performance 34:07 You Can’t Be Everyone’s Favorite and That’s Okay 38:42 People-Pleasing vs. Making People Happy 42:57 Practicing Radical Acceptance After Rejection 44:54 Your Mind Creates Stories That Aren’t True 47:16 Taking Responsibility Without Blaming Yourself 50:44 Why Feeling Worthy Now Matters Most 53:18 Healing the Roots of Deep Self-Loathing 01:06:27 Why Vulnerability Is a Form of Confidence 01:10:25 Your Mind Is More Powerful Than You Think 01:13:10 Are We Too Exposed to Our Own Reflection? 01:17:18 Managing BDD With Compassion and Awareness 01:22:04 The Importance of Celebrating Ourselves 01:24:09 What’s the Difference Between Confidence and Arrogance 01:27:45 How to Make Self-Celebration a Daily Habit 01:29:51 Catch People Doing Things Right Episode Resources: https://www.roxienafousi.com/ https://www.instagram.com/roxienafousi/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057924825815 https://twitter.com/roxie_n https://www.linkedin.com/in/roxienafousi7/ https://www.tiktok.com/@officialroxienafousi https://www.instagram.com/jayshetty https://www.facebook.com/jayshetty/ https://x.com/jayshetty https://www.linkedin.com/in/shettyjay/ https://www.youtube.com/@JayShettyPodcast http://jayshetty.me

Jay ShettyhostRoxie Nafousiguest
Dec 1, 20251h 35mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:26 – 2:56

    Confidence as self-worth (not loudness): quiet, grounded, unapologetic

    Jay and Roxie define confidence as self-worth—knowing you’re enough—rather than charisma or extroversion. Roxie frames true confidence as being yourself in any room and leaving without obsessing over others’ opinions.

    • Confidence is rooted in self-worth and internal stability
    • Extroversion/charisma aren’t reliable indicators of confidence
    • A practical definition: walk in as yourself; walk out without rumination
    • Social overthinking before/after interactions erodes confidence
  2. 2:56 – 5:09

    When external validation helps—and when it becomes your “worth meter”

    They explore whether validation can ever be healthy and why humans evolved to seek belonging. Roxie explains the modern shift: validation is no longer guidance but the measuring stick for self-value, amplified by social media metrics.

    • Some validation supports growth, accountability, and social harmony
    • Evolutionary belonging needs get distorted into worth-dependence
    • Social media turns approval into public, numerical scoring
    • Other people’s opinions can begin to outweigh your own
  3. 5:09 – 7:22

    How likes reshape self-perception: outsourcing your opinion of yourself

    Roxie describes how external feedback can override your original self-judgment, using social posts as an example. Jay expands on how this creates a loop of insecurity—‘felt cute, might delete later’—where confidence becomes conditional.

    • External feedback can change how you interpret your own choices
    • Low engagement becomes ‘proof’ something about you is wrong
    • People begin to seek validation to decide what to think of themselves
    • Conditional sharing creates anxiety and self-doubt cycles
  4. 7:22 – 9:33

    Why confidence struggles are universal (and how it blocks potential)

    Roxie connects confidence to manifesting and explains why fear/doubt are so deeply embedded. She highlights how confidence impacts love, career growth, entrepreneurship, and risk-taking—and that nearly everyone privately struggles.

    • Low self-worth fuels fear/doubt and stalls growth across life domains
    • People assume others are confident because insecurity is hidden
    • In large audiences, almost no one claims to be free of self-doubt
    • Shared vulnerability can create connection and relief
  5. 9:33 – 11:04

    Men vs. women: different pressures, different permission to share insecurity

    Roxie suggests women face more pressure, while men often have less social permission to express insecurity. Jay reflects on how men’s vulnerability conversations can feel heavier and less normalized.

    • Women often share insecurity casually; men may find it harder to open up
    • Social norms shape how confidence and vulnerability are expressed
    • Male emotional disclosure can feel like a ‘big moment’
    • Creating safer spaces changes how confidence develops
  6. 11:04 – 15:52

    Master your thoughts: how beliefs filter reality (the inner-heckler problem)

    Roxie explains how repeated thoughts become beliefs—and beliefs become the lens through which you interpret every interaction. She uses the ‘comedian being heckled’ metaphor to show how self-criticism sabotages performance and identity.

    • Thoughts → repeated patterns → beliefs that shape your reality
    • Beliefs drive selective attention (you look for confirming evidence)
    • The same event can feel totally different under different self-beliefs
    • Self-heckling blocks your best performance in daily life
  7. 15:52 – 18:51

    Self-awareness vs. self-criticism: improvement through compassion

    They distinguish constructive reflection from harsh self-attack by focusing on intention. Roxie emphasizes that confidence includes growth, and uses the analogy of teaching a child to show why compassion improves learning and resilience.

    • Self-criticism: shame-based attacks; self-awareness: compassionate improvement
    • Confidence means being ‘a masterpiece and a work in progress’
    • Harsh inner talk exhausts and demotivates like it would with a child
    • Changing the inner voice is uncomfortable at first but trainable
  8. 18:51 – 24:36

    Building a kinder inner voice: higher-self journaling and daily rehearsal

    Roxie offers a practical entry point: write a daily motivational message from your higher self. Jay reframes the inner critic as a practiced habit—and explains that rehearsing new mental ‘lines’ can change beliefs and outcomes.

    • A daily ‘higher self’ message builds familiarity with supportive self-talk
    • Kind self-talk can feel ‘cringe’ initially—practice makes it natural
    • Inner critic is conditioned, not identity
    • Rehearsing empowerment changes belief and behavior over time
  9. 24:36 – 27:21

    Meet your higher self: a one-year vision and one guiding question

    Roxie defines the higher self as your most empowered version and walks through a visualization to identify how that version thinks and acts. She proposes a simple decision filter: ‘What would my higher self do?’

    • Higher self = the best/most empowered you, not a fantasy
    • Visualize one year ahead without fear/doubt to clarify identity
    • Confidence grows through small decisions and consistent embodiment
    • A daily question can transform habits, boundaries, and body language
  10. 27:21 – 39:30

    Stop trying to be liked: four truths that free you from people’s opinions

    Roxie and Jay unpack how ‘being liked’ can become a mask that blocks authenticity and boundaries. Roxie shares four truths—spotlight effect, mind-reading fallacy, universal unlikability, and ‘it’s not personal’—to reduce fear of judgment.

    • Most people aren’t thinking about you as much as you fear (spotlight effect)
    • You don’t actually know what others think (misread cues, negative bias)
    • No one is universally liked—chasing that is a trap
    • Compatibility is often ‘energy fit,’ not a personal failing
  11. 39:30 – 43:43

    People-pleasing vs. making people happy: motivation reveals self-worth

    Roxie distinguishes generous care from approval-seeking: making others happy can come from love and abundance, while people-pleasing is rooted in low self-worth. Jay adds that ‘not caring what anyone thinks’ is unrealistic—connection requires care.

    • Making people happy can be outward-focused and loving
    • People-pleasing is inward-focused: ‘I need you to like me’
    • Caring what people think isn’t wrong—attachment and fear are
    • Authenticity and boundaries create deeper relationships than masks
  12. 43:43 – 47:46

    Handling rejection with radical acceptance: don’t fire the ‘second arrow’

    They discuss conflict avoidance, rejection pain, and the compulsion to assign meaning. Roxie advocates radical acceptance and dropping personal narratives; Jay introduces the Buddha’s ‘second arrow’—the story you add that hurts more than the event.

    • Rejection hurts, but rumination multiplies suffering
    • Radical acceptance reduces overthinking and emotional spirals
    • The ‘second arrow’ is self-blame and invented meaning
    • Your mind fills in blanks with worst-case fiction—learn to distrust it
  13. 47:46 – 54:16

    Responsibility without self-blame: healing, divine timing, and worthiness now

    Jay asks how to stop making everything your fault while still taking responsibility to grow. Roxie emphasizes surrender (divine timing/universe), self-awareness, and self-compassion—plus the key insight that confidence must be felt now, not earned later.

    • Surrender helps you release what you can’t control
    • Self-compassion enables honest responsibility instead of shame
    • Goals don’t deliver confidence—confidence allows you to enjoy goals
    • Feeling worthy now is the foundation for lasting change
  14. 54:16 – 1:18:01

    Roxie’s story: addiction, self-loathing, BDD, and the limits of ‘fixing’ your face

    Roxie shares a vulnerable personal history: early self-hate, addiction used as a false confidence source, pregnancy-triggered collapse, and severe body dysmorphic disorder. She explains BDD as an anxiety/OCD-related pattern and why surgery didn’t solve the root beliefs.

    • Early self-image wounds can drive lifelong inner-critic patterns
    • Substances can mimic confidence but intensify self-loathing afterward
    • BDD involves obsessive rumination and compulsions (checking, reassurance)
    • External changes (e.g., rhinoplasty) don’t heal internal worth wounds
  15. 1:18:01 – 1:21:54

    Managing BDD with compassion: tools, support, and reducing reflection exposure

    They explore how anxiety disorders don’t respond to simple reassurance and why empathy matters. Roxie describes therapy/medication support and flare-up triggers; Jay connects modern life to constant self-reflection (Zoom, phones, mirrors) amplifying appearance focus.

    • BDD reassurance often doesn’t ‘land’ because the issue is anxiety-based
    • Therapy (e.g., CBT) and medication can be life-changing for some
    • Stress, fatigue, hormones can trigger flare-ups; management is learnable
    • Overexposure to our own reflection intensifies appearance-based rumination
  16. 1:21:54 – 1:28:24

    Celebrate yourself daily: humility vs. self-erasure, and confidence vs. arrogance

    They argue that self-celebration is a missing pillar of confidence, often blocked by over-glorified humility, cultural beliefs (e.g., ‘evil eye’), and fear of seeming arrogant. Roxie defines arrogance vs. confidence and advocates giving each other permission to share wins.

    • Humility can become self-deprecation and denial of earned success
    • Cultural conditioning can associate joy/visibility with danger or jealousy
    • Arrogance: ‘I am the best’; confidence: ‘I’m becoming my best’
    • Celebration builds inner encouragement and normalizes healthy pride
  17. 1:28:24 – 1:35:56

    Make celebration a habit: small wins, everyday qualities, and ‘catch people doing things right’

    Roxie offers practical exercises to build self-celebration: track small wins and name everyday traits that make you uniquely valuable. Jay expands the practice outward—notice what others do right—so positivity becomes a trained lens for self and relationships.

    • Celebrate small wins—especially better reactions than your past self
    • Build a ‘personal CV’ of everyday qualities (not just résumé achievements)
    • Accept compliments with a simple ‘thank you’ to practice receiving
    • Noticing good in yourself helps you notice good in others—reinforcing confidence

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