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Jay Shetty Podcast"DO THIS To Find Your TRUE PURPOSE & Achieve ANY GOAL In Life" | Jennifer Lopez & Jay Shetty
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Jay welcomes Jennifer Lopez and sets up the purpose-focused conversation
Jay Shetty introduces Jennifer Lopez, highlighting her long-running cultural impact and recent projects. He explains the conversation comes from Coach’s “Coach Conversations” series and frames the discussion around purpose, gratitude, and “Coach It Forward.”
- •Jay introduces Jennifer Lopez and describes her as authentic and accomplished
- •Mentions her recent skincare launch and a major performance earlier in the year
- •Jay explains this is a full conversation from “Coach Conversations”
- •The episode’s themes are purpose, gratitude, and acknowledging people who move us forward
Defining Jennifer’s purpose: empower, inspire, entertain
Jay asks Jennifer how she defines her calling and why defining it matters. Jennifer says her current calling is to empower, inspire, and entertain, and she wants her entertaining work to also uplift people.
- •Jennifer frames her calling in January 2021 as empowering, inspiring, and entertaining
- •She links entertainment to helping people be their best at what they want to do
- •Jay reflects on her answer and sets up deeper exploration of purpose-driven work
A lesson from Ruth Bader Ginsburg: do what you do best, at your best
Jennifer shares a personal story about meeting Ruth Bader Ginsburg and asking how to help in a chaotic world. She recalls being told to keep doing what she does best and to be the best she can be, because that helps the world.
- •Jennifer recounts meeting Ruth Bader Ginsburg and asking how she could help
- •She shares the message: do what you do best and be the best you can be
- •Jennifer connects individual excellence to contributing to the world
What a purpose coach does—and why emotional education matters
Jennifer asks Jay what a purpose coach does, and he explains it as helping people maximize impact through their gifts. They discuss how many people lack tools for the mind and emotions, and Jennifer argues self-love should be taught early.
- •Jay describes helping people find impact through their gifts
- •Jay says many people were never given tools for the heart, emotions, and mind
- •Jennifer says kids should be taught to love themselves from a young age
- •Jennifer shares her own journey of learning what “loving yourself” really means
Purpose in hard times: pausing, looking inward, and choosing who to be
Jay asks whether difficult times are a good time to find purpose. Jennifer reflects on the toughness of the year and says the “pause” allowed people to look inward, prioritize what matters, and focus not only on what they want but who they want to be.
- •Jennifer calls it a tough moment and reflects on the year’s difficulty
- •She highlights the “moment of pause” as a blessing for reflection
- •She emphasizes prioritizing what’s important, like family and kids
- •She stresses choosing who you want to be when things return to normal
Calling vs career: pushing vs pulling—and getting value from every job
Jennifer asks Jay to define calling and purpose and how they differ from career. Jay says a career can feel like pushing while a calling feels like being pulled, and he believes careers can evolve into callings if you learn from each stage.
- •Jay distinguishes career (pushing) from calling (pulling)
- •He suggests careers can evolve into callings over time
- •He encourages learning from current work rather than feeling far from purpose
- •Jennifer agrees that putting heart and soul into any job leads to growth
Striving for greatness by mastering the whole ecosystem of a craft
Jennifer explains that aiming to be “the greatest” pushes you to understand all parts of the work, not just your role. She uses acting as an example, saying striving to be the best actor requires learning about directing, producing, and other roles that make the whole project work.
- •Jennifer says you should aim to be the greatest in the job you have
- •She argues excellence requires understanding adjacent disciplines
- •She lists roles like directing, producing, and set design as interconnected
- •She frames growth as continuous evolution through openness and effort
Intentional artistry: using heart and meaning to connect beyond technique
Jay asks if Jennifer has always been highly intentional in her choices. Jennifer describes starting as a dancer who wasn’t “the best,” and says she compensated by putting heart, soul, and purpose into each move so it would connect with people.
- •Jennifer says she wasn’t always the best dancer, but was deeply committed
- •She focused on emotional connection rather than pure technical comparison
- •She aimed to make every move and choice mean something
- •She wants her work to remind people to own their power beyond the spotlight
Success without being ‘the best’: persistence, belief, and striving
Jay notes how relieving it can be to hear she didn’t consider herself the best. Jennifer clarifies that striving to be the best matters, but success doesn’t require being the best—she emphasizes not giving up and believing you have something special to offer.
- •Jennifer reiterates the importance of striving for excellence
- •She says you don’t have to be the best to achieve success
- •She emphasizes persistence and continuing through challenges
- •She ties success to believing you have something unique to offer
‘Dream on’ and the creative process: choosing passion over caution
Jay asks what Jennifer wants people to experience through her message to “dream on,” and she hopes for change and healing and a more loving, unified world. She then describes her creative process as layered, rooted in being fully behind choices, accepting risks, and making work that resonates with her so it can resonate with others.
- •Jennifer shares her mantra “dream on” and hopes for change and healing
- •She wants to give people hope and direction in times when many feel lost
- •She says impact requires being 100% in and behind creative choices
- •She accepts that some people will love or hate the work, and chooses passion anyway
Washing away 2020 and asking about universal healing
Jay brings up Jennifer’s symbolic idea of washing away 2020 tied to her brand launch timing. Jennifer explains it as releasing pain, uncertainty, and fear and starting fresh, then asks Jay about collective trauma and whether universal healing is possible.
- •Jay references the ceremonial idea of washing away the previous year
- •Jennifer describes washing away pain, uncertainty, fear, and heavy energy
- •She emphasizes the possibility of starting fresh
- •Jennifer raises the question of collective trauma and universal healing
Love beneath pain: cries for attention, anger, and the need for a hug
Jay responds with a quote he read and explains that cries for attention or validation can be cries for love. Jennifer agrees and adds that anger can signal someone needs comfort, emphasizing empathy toward people expressing pain.
- •Jay shares the idea that people needing love may ask in unloving ways
- •He connects attention-seeking and validation-seeking to a need for love
- •Jennifer notes that intense anger can indicate someone needs affection
- •They align on interpreting hurtful behavior as rooted in pain
Evolving purpose and self-talk: listening inward amid outside opinions
Jay asks how to handle pressure to find purpose and the stress of evolving. Jennifer rejects “reinventing,” preferring “evolving,” and stresses listening to yourself and monitoring self-talk, saying thoughts and words shape reality—especially in an industry full of outside voices.
- •Jennifer says she doesn’t view changes as “reinvention” but as evolution
- •She highlights pressure people feel around calling and purpose
- •She emphasizes self-talk as reality-shaping and something she teaches her kids
- •She describes the need for strong instinct and self-trust amid external opinions
‘Coach It Forward’: specific gratitude, supportive relationships, and quick-fire wrap-up
Jay asks what “Coach It Forward” means to Jennifer, and she describes calling or telling people how they’ve impacted your life. She thanks her producing partner Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas for encouragement, then they end with a quick-fire round and Jennifer restates her calling as empowering, inspiring, entertaining, and spreading love.
- •Jennifer explains “Coach It Forward” as directly telling people they matter to you
- •She values brands and initiatives tied to social good and gratitude
- •She highlights the importance of people who remind you you’re doing great
- •They do a quick-fire Q&A and Jennifer reiterates her purpose in one sentence
